Profile | Posted by | Options | Post Date |
|
Valerie
|
Report
|
16 Feb 2011 00:55 |
Hi Margaret .... the marriage (1946) shows her as "Jean".
NSW/BMD has this (likely) death 28305/1970 "Jean Beveridge" 87yrs Cootamundra. (age matches)
There is also a death 15070/1969 'Jane Beveridge' (parents Archibald & Jean) at Hamilton.
'Joy Murrin's Transcription Services' (on-line) will search the cert/s for $18 each - (cheaper than buying)
Valerie (WAus)
|
|
Margaret
|
Report
|
15 Feb 2011 23:59 |
Hi MEgirl and MarieCeleste,
Thanks for your messages, yes, I do have all this information on Archibald, and yes, he did only have one leg!! However it is Jean (Jeannie) that I have hit the brick wall with. You will see in the 1901 census that his age has been changed from 16 to 26 - he was only 16, so the "stories" began quite early! Thanks again for your help, we will keep trying to find the elusive Jeannie! Regards, Margaret
|
|
MarieCeleste
|
Report
|
15 Feb 2011 20:36 |
Possibly Archibald with first wife in 1911:
BEVERIDGE, Archibald Head Married M 27 1884 Army Pensioner Lecturer Burnley Lancashire BEVERIDGE, Agnes Wife Married 5 years F 27 1884 Barnoldswick Yorkshire BEVERIDGE, Florence Amelia Daughter F 4 1907 Brierfield Lancashire BEVERIDGE, George Leslie Son M 1 1910 Brierfield Lancashire BEVERIDGE, Cecil Son M 0 (9 MONTHS) 1911 Brierfield Lancashire Registration District: Burnley Sub District: Nelson Enumeration District: 30 Parish: Brierfield Address: 19 Hill St Brierfield County: Lancashire
** The infirmity column is covered over for privacy rules so we can't tell how many legs he's got.
|
|
MEgirl
|
Report
|
15 Feb 2011 10:42 |
Hi Margaret,
Do you have access to the Aust electoral rolls from 1930-1954 as they were living as husband and wife, i.e. Jean was going by the name of Beveridge on the rolls.
If you don't have this information, I can list it for you. Also death cert. 8700/1957 for Archibald Douglas Beveridge, aged 73 years late of Randwick (Darlinghurst listed, but this is probably the hospital or Sacred Heart Hospice). This certificate might list birth details, parents, etc. if you don't have it already. According to rolls, Archibald was a commercial traveller.
Still working on Jean/Jeannie.
Regards.
|
|
Margaret
|
Report
|
14 Feb 2011 23:53 |
Hi Everyone, I am away from home at the moment so do not have records with me, but all this has given me food for thought. Archibald was known until the day he died as "The Major", even his death notice says he was a Major, Royal Imperial Army - WRONG, I have his discharge papers, he served 159 days as a boy soldier, hurt his knee and had his leg amputated in 1900. These are the stories I am up against!! My mothers birth certificate, 1923, says they were married in Portsmouth in 1918 (from memory) WRONG AGAIN, they married in Sydney in 1946 after his wife died back in England. Makes interesting reading don't you think??? Thanks for all your help, maybe we will come up with something! Regards, Margaret
|
|
rootgatherer
|
Report
|
14 Feb 2011 23:31 |
The above man was married to Mary Anderson in Dunfermline on 6 September 1906 but no children listed. So perhaps not him?
|
|
rootgatherer
|
Report
|
14 Feb 2011 23:28 |
Is this Archibald's service records on Ancestry please?
Name: Archibald Beveridge Estimated birth year: abt 1884 Age at Enlistment: 31 Residence: 30 Inglis Street, Dunfermline Document Year: 1915 Regimental Number: 17497 Number of Images: 10
|
|
rootgatherer
|
Report
|
14 Feb 2011 23:26 |
Margaret, a couple of points. If she was Scottish, in Scotland the names Jean and Jane are interchangeable. The Scottish naming pattern is that the first daughter is named for the maternal grandmother.
Can you please tell us what information jeannie gave on her marriage and the details of her parents from her death certificate please?
Given that they emigrate not long after then end of WW1, they may have met during the war so Jeannie may have come from anywhere in the country. Did Archibald serve during the war please? Do you know where if he did?
|
|
**Ann**
|
Report
|
14 Feb 2011 23:17 |
Margaret..........do you mean Jeannies birth cert is incorrect?
Dont think that will be a daughter, there is only a 11 year gap??
Annx
|
|
MarieCeleste
|
Report
|
14 Feb 2011 23:16 |
Margaret - I'm not 100% sure about that 1911 when compared with the 1901. Could be the same family if economical with truth!
As Rootgatherer says, what was the info you were given, even if incorrect.
|
|
Margaret
|
Report
|
14 Feb 2011 23:13 |
Thanks MarieCeleste, I had the ships information, and now can work on the 1911 information. I wonder if the granddaughter was Jeannie's daughter and she left her behind? I lived with these grandparents for 4 years, what a pity I wasn't old enough then to ask questions!!
Thanks again,
Margaret
|
|
**Ann**
|
Report
|
14 Feb 2011 23:09 |
52 Louis Street ,Springbank ,Hull is the last address given for Jeannie on the ships manifest........may help.
Annx
|
|
MarieCeleste
|
Report
|
14 Feb 2011 23:03 |
Possible 1911 for Jeannie?
SOMMERVILLE, John Head Married M 62 1849 Ironmonger Lanarkshire Shotts SOMMERVILLE, Jane Wife Married 38 years F 61 1850 Fife Crossgate SOMMERVILLE, Jeannie S K Daughter Single F 22 1889 Grocers Bookkeeper Fife Kirkcaldy DICKSON, Jeannie Granddaughter Single F 11 1900 School Yorks Normanton Registration District: Lanchester Sub District: Consett Enumeration District: 7 Parish: Benfieldside Address: 43 and 44 Durham Road Blackhill County: Durham
Or, is this a connection in 1901?
SOMERVILLE, Robert Head Married M 49 1852 Soap Manufacturers Manager Scotland Dalkeeth SOMERVILLE, Jane Wife Married F 44 1857 Scotby Cumberland SOMERVILLE, Jeanie Daughter Single F 16 1885 Newcastle on Tyne Northumberland Registration District: Hackney Sub District: Central Hackney Enumeration District: 6 Ecclesiastical Parish: Hackney St Johns Civil Parish: Hackney
Address: ?, St Andrews Mansions, Lower Clapton Road, Hackney County: London
|
|
MarieCeleste
|
Report
|
14 Feb 2011 22:59 |
Hello Margaret, have you done a "Search Trees" on this site for possible matches?
Meanwhile, how old would Jean have been when she ran away?
Would this tie in?
Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Name: Miss Jeannie SOMMERVILLE Date of departure: 9 November 1921 Port of departure: London Destination port: Sydney Destination country: Australia Date of Birth: 1887 (calculated from age) Age: 34 Marital Status: Sex: Female Occupation: Clerk Notes: Passenger recorded on: Page 22 of 33 Ship: BELTANA Official Number: 131853 Master's name: Captain B Cornewall-Jones Steamship Line: P. & O. Branch Service Where bound: Australia Square feet: 21124 Registered tonnage: 7031 Passengers on voyage: 1069
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Name: Mr Archibald BEVERIDGE Date of departure: 9 November 1921 Port of departure: London Destination port: Sydney Destination country: Australia Date of Birth: 1884 (calculated from age) Age: 37 Marital Status: Sex: Male Occupation: Organiser Notes: Passenger recorded on: Page 22 of 33 Ship: BELTANA Official Number: 131853 Master's name: Captain B Cornewall-Jones Steamship Line: P. & O. Branch Service Where bound: Australia Square feet: 21124 Registered tonnage: 7031 Passengers on voyage: 1069
|
|
rootgatherer
|
Report
|
14 Feb 2011 22:58 |
Can you tell us when she was born please? What information did she give for her parents (even if it was false, there may have been an element of truth)? Was your mother her only child?
|
|
Margaret
|
Report
|
14 Feb 2011 22:47 |
Jean Sommerville "ran away" to Australia with my grandfather Archibald Beveridge sometime around 1920, even though he had a wife and 5 children in Burnley Lancaster. My mother was born in 1923, also named Jean, and my grandparents married in Sydney in 1946 after his first wife died. I have no information about my grandmother, information on marriage and birth certificates has proved to be untrue. Is anyone doing research on Sommerville name? Any assistance would be appreciated. Many thanks, Margaret
|