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give it a rest, please Chrissie

I read it LadyKira

did anyone read the link i posted

Ann of green gables, the Elsie you posted just above

baptism/christening date: 29 Jun 1904

is an entirely different one, she is the child of Sidney and Ada in the 1911 census, referred to earlier

the easiest way to refer to all of them is the 1911 census

SPRULES SIDNEY M 1875 36 Bristol Gloucestershire
SPRULES ADA F 1878 33 Bristol Gloucestershire
SPRULES JAMES M 1910 1 Bristol Gloucestershire
SPRULES DORIS F 1909 2 Bristol Gloucestershire
SPRULES IVY F 1907 4 Bristol Gloucestershire
SPRULES ELISE F 1905 6 Bristol Gloucestershire
SPRULES ALBERT M 1903 8 Bristol Gloucestershire
SPRULES GILBERT M 1902 9 Bristol Gloucestershire
SPRULES GEORGE M 1900 11 Bristol Gloucestershire

another Gloucestershire Sprule[s]

Agnes A Sprules

England and Wales Census, 1891
birth: Tetbury, Gloucestershire
residence: England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1891
name: Agnes A Sprules
age: 27
gender: Female
birthplace: Tetbury, Gloucestershire
relationship to head of household: Wife
record type:

bourton on the hill is close to the borders of wiltshire

there was Maude as well

Maud Elizabeth Sproules

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Doynton, Gloucester, England
parents: Sidney Sproules, Ada Caroline

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Maud Elizabeth Sproules
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 28 Apr 1898
baptism/christening place: Doynton, Gloucester, England
father's name: Sidney Sproules
mother's name: Ada Caroline
indexing project (batch) number: C17120-1
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1472083

Elsie Elizabeth Sprules

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth: 06 Jun 1904
residence: Doynton, Gloucester, England
parents: Sidney Sprules, Ada Caroline

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Elsie Elizabeth Sprules
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 29 Jun 1904
baptism/christening place: Doynton, Gloucester, England
birth date: 06 Jun 1904
father's name: Sidney Sprules
mother's name: Ada Caroline
indexing project (batch) number: C17120-1
system origin: England-EASy
source film number:

sounds good to me!!!

he would only be on the war memorial if he had a link with the village and elsie was living teir so iin the absence of finding cyril under that name i am investigating if there is a link between elsie and cyril.

elsie still not with parents 1901.
suggests an orphan possibly

1901 census - household transcription
Person: SPRULES, Elsie
Address: 84, The George, West Overton, Overton
SPRULES, Mary Head Widow F 71 1830
Lockeridge
Wiltshire
SPRULES, Charles Grand Son Single M 30 1871 Carter On Farm
Fyfield
Wiltshire
SPRULES, Louisa Daughter Single F 28 1873 Ordinary Farm Work
Overton
Wiltshire
SPRULES, George Grand Son Single M 10 1891
Overton
Wiltshire
SPRULES, Elsie Grand Daughter Single F 2 1899
Marlborough
Wiltshire

the baptism of Sidney Sprules is interesting

baptism/christening date: 03 Dec 1871

because his birth just was not registered ! (and he certainly made himself a lot younger than he was in the 1911 census)

No Sidney with any surname was registered in Marlborough district in 1871 or 1872.

edit, darn his eyes, he changed his spelling

Births Dec 1871
Sprules Sydney Marlbro' 5a 78



LadyKira the 1901 census for Elsie is posted above, I still don't understand, do we think she could be a sister of Cyril?

I'm sorry I don't understand the significance of Elsie Sprules the orphan

I am aware there was no Cyril in the household else I would have posted it

here is that family in 1881 in West Overton Wiltshire

Henry Sprules 44
Martha Sprules 44
James Sprules 24
John Sprules 20
William Sprules 15
Emily Sprules 12
Sidney Sprules 10
Fanny Sprules 6
Henry E. Sprules 2

............. no Cyril .................


and the children are not from a previous marriage

Marriages Mar 1855
Chivers Martha Marlbro 5a 101
SPRULES Henry Marlbro 5a 101

1901 for Elsie

1901 England Census
about Elsie Sprules
Name: Elsie Sprules
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1899
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Marlborough, Wiltshire, England

Civil Parish: West Overton
Ecclesiastical parish: Alton Priors and Fyfield All Saints and Overton St Michael
Town: Overton
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Marlborough
Sub-registration district: Marlborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 56
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Sprules 71
Charles Sprules 30
Louisa Sprules 28
George Sprules 10
Elsie Sprules 2


Andy

Sidney Sprules in 1891

John Sprules 27
Sarah A Sprules 23
Nelson G Sprules 2
Albert J Sprules 6/12
Sidney Sprules 17 born Lockeridge Wiltshire, boarder
William Alder 19

Sidney Sprules

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Wiltshire, England
parents: Henry Sprules, Martha

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Sidney Sprules
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 03 Dec 1871
baptism/christening place: FYFIELD BY MARLBOROUGH,WILTSHIRE,ENGLAND
father's name: Henry Sprules
mother's name: Martha
indexing project (batch) number: C05448-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number:

1901 census - household transcription
Person: SPRULES, Henry
Address: 69, South Farm, West Overton, Overton
SPRULES, Henry Head Married M 43 1858 Chimney Sweep
Fyfield
Wiltshire
SPRULES, Ann Wife Married F 53 1848
Overton
Wiltshire
SPRULES, Charles H S Son Single M 16 1885 Chimney Sweep
Preshute
Wiltshire
SPRULES, Ellen M Daughter Single F 14 1887 Pupil Teacher In National Schools
Preshute
Wiltshire
SPRULES, Annie Daughter Single F 12 1889
Lockeridge
Wiltshire
SPRULES, Gertrude Daughter Single F 8 1893
Overton
Wiltshire

good Andy, it is always useful to rule out possibilities

Ann, I checked the household of the family you posted in the 1911 census and there is no Cyril in the household, the father was born in 1875 and the parents married in 1897, who knows, he could be a brother of Cyril but there are many Sprules

but you know, this is interesting, there is no birth of a Sidney Sprules around 1875 .... only 1847 and 1883.

so my wondering whether Sprules was not Cyril's registered surname ...... maybe it wasn't and he and Sidney were brothers ......


The Elsie who is an orphan in 1911 is an entirely different Elsie from the one whose 1904 baptism Ann of green gables posted above ............ so they seem to be on entirely different tracks in fact ..................

thanks for that!!! I notice there are far more Sprules in Wiltshire than Gloucestershire