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I've just looked through the 1841 Census changed the search to Lambeth Brixton still no joy

Some else did the family tree before me and they took the elmstead Essex option but that has so many loop holes

I have looked at that last night, still not seeing him before the marriage even the witnesses on the marriage cert do not look like family although I cannot work out one of the names.
That tree also shows a birth reg in West Ham which is closer than Colchester....but why say Havering if born in the West Ham area?

jax

Sorry I've just seen to other points

Death 1909 Wandsworth Surrey

Yes on the Census it says

Place of Birth 1871,1881 Havering Essex

1891 place of birth Lambeth Gardner

but you may want to take a look at this

Ok Sorry folk , forgot how this works, but your all so amazing at this

I have their marriage cert which Ann got right they married in Bow Poplar Middlesex and it says they where living in Bow. Father Carpenter

I have

The 1871, 1881 but nothing before them dates

I also have Carpenter, Farmer, Beer house Man ?????

I have Thomas their sons birth cert, which states
26 Elizabeth Street Brixton which matches Census

Thomas was a Gardner Marriage cert

None of this make sense, it more like a who done it than a family tree

A thought that certainly came to mind ... especially considering the bride's father's occupation ... when making up a father, why not make up a New Testament trade to go with, lol?

The father David could well be made up just for the marriage record. Strangely enough my gt grandmother had a carpenter as a father and he did'nt exist .

jax

Yup, I'd already checked that one out and discarded him because of the occupation ................

this is from a tree on ancestry

1841

Name: William Carter
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Gender: Male
Where born: Essex, England

Civil Parish: Elmstead
Hundred: Tendring
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Tendring
Sub-registration district: Ardleigh
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
David Carter 30
Mary Carter 35
David Carter 5
Robert Carter 3
William Carter 1

1851

Name: William Carter
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Relation: Son
Father's name: David Carter
Mother's name: Mary Ann Carter
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Elmstead, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Elmstead
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 89
Household Members: Name Age
David Carter 43
Mary Ann Carter 46
David Carter 16
William Carter 13
Abraham Carter 6
Isaac Carter 2


I do not think this is the right family fathers occupation in 1851 farmer of 20 acres bit different from a carprnter and Elmstead is not anywhere near Havering

Then again there is this death but as it does not give the age ??

Deaths Mar 1844 (>99%)
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CARTER William Romford 12 173

but nothing showing for Romford either

the 1881 Ann of green gables posted shows Havering, I just wondered whether Theresa would tell us what other censuses say since you say you have them Theresa, you having them does us no good, and no point in us looking them up if you have them .......................

I grew up married and had first child in Havering so Romford is the main town for that area

jax

is his place of birth in censuses after he is married consistently Havering?

there's no William Carter that age with Havering given as place of birth in 1851 for instance

Only birth at that time I could see in Havering

Births Mar 1843 (>99%)
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Carter William Romford 12 229

Ann has been a great help with William Spouse side of the family but can anyone knock down the brick wall I keep hitting with William Carter.

Just so you don't waste your time I have loads of information after he's marriage.

I'm looking for birth record, parents and census entries for 1941/1951/1961

no I haven't but my understanding is that you can go to any Mormon church and they hold more detailed records there and that you can view or purchase

Ann have you ever ordered a disc......or do you know what information
the disc hold

Thank you it more than I've found x

on this free site


http://www.ancestorhunt.com/mormon_church_records.htm

when you open up any census page you will see in the top right hand corner they are a further search facility in a green box



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click on that and you will get more information

That is all I could find though

Ann where can I find the information you found

Thank you everyone your wonderful don't know how you do it
but so happy you can.

Just so I don't waste your time I have all the Census from 1871-1881

Thank you x