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1881 census - household transcription
Person: BASSINDALE, Elizabeth
Address: 94, Boundary St, Liverpool
BARNES, Caroline Head Widow F 40 1841
Lincoln
Middlesex
BASSINDALE, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 19 1862 Servant
Belton
Lincolnshire
UNDERWOOD, John Lodger Single M 25 1856 Timber Bender
Plymouth
Devon
TRENCH, Joshua Lodger Single M 23 1858 Sailor
Penketh
Lancashire
KAYSO, John Lodger Single M 19 1862 Sailor
United States
MONTGOMERY, Robt Lodger Single M 23 1858 Dock Labourer
Ireland

IF Elizabeth Botcher is related to you (have we proved that yet?) this could be Lucy Edith's baptism

Baptisms: 3 Jan 1900 St Mary, Walton on the Hill, Lancashire, England
Edith Lucy Jones - Child of John Frederick Jones & Elizabeth
Born: 8 Dec 1899
Abode: 13 Peveril Street Walton
Occupation: Ship's Steward
Baptised by: F. Johnson (Curate).
Register: Baptisms 1894 - 1902, Page 302, Entry 2399
Source: LDS Film 1647567

this would match with that marriage in New York (apart from Elizabeth's birthplace - this time Doncaster - Dorchester a mistranslation?) & John F was a ship's steward, presumably at sea in 1901

which takes you to

1871 census - household transcription
Person: BASSENDALE, Elizabeth
Address: Worsley Street, Salford
BASSENDALE, William Head M 69 1802 Lincolnshire VIEW
BASSENDALE, Louisa Granddaughter F 11 1860 Lincolnshire VIEW
BASSENDALE, Elizabeth Granddaughter F 8 1863 Lincolnshire VIEW
BASSENDALE, Ada Granddaughter F 2 1869 Lincolnshire VIEW
COPUR, Maggie Visitor F 32 1839 Lincolnshire

looking at place names on here i would say that geography was not a strong point.

You are right about that LK - had not noticed the Lincoln Middlesex version for Caroline Barnes before

which could also bring us back to this one - sisters baptised together as children not babies

Baptisms: 28 Jul 1872 Stowell Memorial, Salford, Lancashire, England
Ada Mary Bassindale - Child of Robert Bassindale & Caroline
Abode: 231 Cross Lane
Occupation: Farmer
Baptised by: W. Doyle
Register: Baptisms 1869 - 1898, Page 18, Entry 142
Source: LDS Film 2357994

Baptisms: 28 Jul 1872 Stowell Memorial, Salford, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Bassindale - Child of Robert Bassindale & Caroline
Abode: 231 Cross Lane
Occupation: Farmer
Baptised by: W. Doyle
Register: Baptisms 1869 - 1898, Page 18, Entry 141
Source: LDS Film 2357994

wish I could find a marriage for these 2

we have still not proved ada's parentage
john william or robert but tracing Elizabeth may be helpful.
we just have elizabeth living near ada and baxendales on the same street as Samuel.
but we still have this

Baptisms: 28 Jul 1872 Stowell Memorial, Salford, Lancashire, England
Ada Mary Bassindale - Child of Robert Bassindale & Caroline
Abode: 231 Cross Lane
Occupation: Farmer
Baptised by: W. Doyle
Register: Baptisms 1869 - 1898, Page 18, Entry 142
Source: LDS Film 2357994

Baptisms: 28 Jul 1872 Stowell Memorial, Salford, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Bassindale - Child of Robert Bassindale & Caroline
Abode: 231 Cross Lane
Occupation: Farmer
Baptised by: W. Doyle
Register: Baptisms 1869 - 1898, Page 18, Entry 141
Source: LDS Film 2357994

lol
great minds

Will try that lancashireAnn
LadyKira Ismay street is the next street to were my grandmother lived,but why does it have on the 1891 Manchester by her name and on the 1901,i mean by Elizabeths name if it is in fact Manchester thats the same by Ada,s name or am i getting confused again?

sorry did,nt see the replys above mybe Elizabeth would be the best bet and might shed some light on Ada,forgot to add know we have not found out yet if Elizabeth was connected to me

we did,nt come across Lousia did we as yet?al;so Ada had daughter called Edith as well born in 1906

picture of stowell memorial

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/Salford/StowellMemorial.shtml

can't find a birth for anything like Louisa - which begs the question 'were ANYof their births registered'

Could quite be possable they were not so i think its down trying to find out more information on Elizabeth if we can

I don't think Edith b 1906 would be of much help as you have all the details already of Ada b 1908's siblings

if you put Ada bassindale on search trees there i a match forone born bolton or manchester. have you contacted him?

did you get Ada & Samuel's marriage certificate from the GRO or Liverpool records office.

If the GRO I wonder if it is worth you contacting Liverpool with the exact date and details and asking them to check the origal for Ada's father's name in case there was a mistranscription to the bishop's transcriptps.

I think they will do 1 free search per person as long as it does not take more than 15 mins.

Yes i did get the cert from i will ring them up tomorrow and ask them .lancashire Ann no i have,nt seen that will go and have alook now ,thank you

I had already been in contact with chap his name was John not sure if he replied or not ,will try and find out if im not for few hours its because im haveing abad day in alot of pain and been up all night,but will reply later

Just had alook i did get reply and he gave me email of another Bassindale which i have kept in touch with he lives inCanada ,and he could,nt find any conextion for ADA