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Hi Janet,

They are an elusive lot. thanks for looking for Alfred for me. I just can't fathom what's happened to him as I cna't find a death either.

As for his father John I know for certain he didn't die as the whole family moved to Rotherham and had more children before his wife died in 1916 and he remarried in 1917! And so the hunt continues, but I do appreciate your time and offer, it was very kind of you.

Thank you,

Regards and Good Luck in your own research.

Lou

Thanks Janet,
I don't think that this is the correct family as I don't recognise the other siblings names, this family are proving pretty elusive and so my hunt continues....
Thank you for all of yor help, time and effort today, it has been much appreciated. I'll leave you in peace now!
Best wishes,
Chevaun.

Hi Looby Loo

I'm sorry but this is the only Alfred Coyne I could find with the details you gave but it says he's living with his parents who is not John Coyne.

Personal Information
Name Alfred Coyne
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 5
Estimated Year of Birth 1906
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Walsall Staffs
Enumerator Information
Address 5 Bescot Street Walsall
Parish Walsall
Town Walsall
Type of Building House & Shop
Number of Rooms No 4
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN17176 RG78PN1057 RD370 SD3 ED19 SN330
Administrative County Staffordshire
Registration District Walsall
Registration Sub District Walsall
Enumeration District 19

Alfred Coyne Head 38 Labourer Walsall
Maria Coyne Wife 37 Married 11 years 6 children born alive, 6 still alive. Bloxwich Staffs
Thomas Coyne Son 9 Walsall
Polly Coyne Daughter 7 Walsall
Alfred Coyne Son 5 Walsall
Maria Coyne Daughter 4 Walsall
Arthur Coyne Son 2 Walsall
William Coyne Son 1 Walsall

I'm not having any luck with John Coyne/Coin I'm afraid.

Janet

Hi Chevaun,
He was a General Labourer.
Janet

Hi Janet, Many thanks for the offer.

Could you please look up either of these two.

John Coyne / Coin b 1875 Newmarket, Claycross Derbyshire male. He could be in West Riding or Walsall. His wife and children are all in Walsall, but the family did move to West Riding. He is not with his wife and children and the child below is not with his mother so could be with his father if he had moved.

Alfred Coyne / Coin b 1905 Walsall could be in West Riding or Walsall. He is not living with his mother but could be another relative or with his father above.

Many thanks for either of them, it's very much appreciated.

Regards, Lou

Thank you Janet for all of your help, it really is much appreciated.
Sorry to be a pain, can i just ask whether the occupation of Charles was mentioned?
Thanks again,
Chevaun.

Thank you very much, Janet

Hi Chevaun,

I have found a census with Charles as the Head but not in the area you wanted so not sure if this is right.

Personal Information
Name Kathleen Clements
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 6
Estimated Year of Birth 1905
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Cranford Mdx
Enumerator Information
Address 4 Freyden Cottages Bath Road Cranford Hounslow
Parish Cranford
Town Cranford Hounslow
Type of Building Private House
Number of Rooms 5
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN6744 RG78PN336 RD126 SD2 ED1 SN28
Administrative County Middlesex
Registration District Staines
Registration Sub District Staines
Enumeration District 1

Charles Clements Head 29 Cranford Middx
Alice Clements Wife 29 Kensington Middx
Margaret Clements Daughter 7
Kathleen Clements Daughter 6
Dennis Clements Son 4
Robert Clements Daughter 2
Noreen Clements Daughter 1

I haven't had any more luck. Sorry I can't help further. I hope you manage to get more snippets of information to take you forward.

Good luck
Janet

Hi JANET,
Re MITCHELL, yes i have looked at this family put im really not sure as no one seems to know much about Thomas and ellen or any of there immediate family the only thing i do know is that albert born 1925 is the only surviring so who went on to get married in the late 50s and had children born in the 60s . thxs again for your help think i will need wed cert .
linda

Janet,
Again nothing certain but the name Polly has been mentioned although I don't know if that is a nickname.
Thanks again.
Chevaun.

Struggling here as I can't find a Charles as the Head. Do you know Kathleen's mothers name?

Janet

Hi Janet,
I think Kathleen was born in1903, I am not certain though as I have been unable to trace a birth record for her. I have a Death entry for 1992, which states that Kathleen was 89 at the time of death hence how I have arrived at the 1903 date.
Unfortunately I don't have any documentation that gives me a definate place of birth for Kathleen, family gossip suggests Kent but I am uncertain that this is the case as I purchased a birth certificate for a Kathleen born in that area at the same time but the fathers name didn't match the Charles on Kathleens marriage certificate. I know that the family moved to the Kensington area at some point, (if in fact Kathleen wasn't born there) as my family have lived in this area ever since.
The first certificate that gives me confirmation that they were in this area is dated 1925 so am hoping that they may have been there earlier in 1911?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks for your time and effort.
Chevaun.

Hi Chevaun,
When was Kathleen born please?
Janet

Hi Karen

Here's what is recorded on the 1911 census:

Naomi Rudge Head Age 67 Widow Dedham Essex
George Rudge Son Age 38 Single Farm Labourer Dedham Essex
Alfred Naunton Boarder Age 22 Single Platelayer on GER Railway Rushmore Suffolk
Arthur Claydon Boarder Age 11 Single At School Peldon Essex

Address - The Heath, Dedham, Essex and signed by Alfred Naunton

Personal Information
Name Arthur Claydon
Relationship to Head of Household Boarder
Gender M
Age 11
Estimated Year of Birth 1900
Occupation School
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Peldon Essex
Enumerator Information
Address The Heath Dedham Essex
Parish Dedham
Town The Heath Dedham
Type of Building Cottage
Number of Rooms 4
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN10351 RG78PN547 RD199 SD3 ED3 SN152
Administrative County Essex
Registration District Lexden
Registration Sub District Fordham
Enumeration District 3

Hope that helps,
Janet

Hi Janet,
Would it be possible for you to do a look up for a Kathleen Clements in the 1911 census, living in the Kensington area of London? I know the head of the household would have been called Charles and that there would be a number of siblings including an Elizabeth, Mary and Thomas amongst others.
This look up would be much appreciated as I have hit a wall and am unable to move forward.
Many Thanks,
Chevaun.

Hi Janet,

Please may I have a look up? I'm interested in the record for Arthur Claydon, (born in Peldon), age 11, living in the Lexden District. I would really like to know who he's living with and his relationship to them. There's a possibility that he was an orphan by this time.

Many thanks, Karen

Hi Linda

Could this be Thomas Mitchell b.1884 in the 1901 Census:

Name Thomas Mitchell
Relation to Head of Family Son
Age Last Birthday 17
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Wire Turner (On image this looks like Iron Turner Fitter)
Employment Status
Condition as to Marriage Single
Where Born Lancas Manchester
Address 154 Philips Pk Rd
Civil Parish North Manchester
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish Beswick St Marys
Parliamentary Borough or Division East Manchester
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Manchester
Administrative County Manchester
Ward of Municipal Borough or Urban District Bradford

With him are:

Thomas Mitchell Head Age 49
Catherine Mitchell Wife Age 48
John D Mitchell Son Age 23 Iron Moulder
Frances A Mitchell Daughter Age 21 Cotton ???
Florrie Mitchell Daughter Age 19 Domestic Housemaid
Thomas Mitchell Son Age 17 Iron Turner Fitter
Arthur Mitchell Son Age 15 Candle Packer
Edward Mitchell Son Age 12
Edith Mitchell Daughter Age 9
Harry Mitchell Son Age 4

All born Manchester Lancs

If the above is correct, here they are in 1891:

Name Thomas Mitchell
Age 7
Estimated Year of Birth 1884
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Address 6, Hampson Street
District Prestwich, Newton
Parish Bradford
Administrative County Lancashire
Birth Place Manchester
Birth County Lancashire

Thomas Mitchell Head Age 39 Wire Drawer
Catherine Mitchell Wife Age 38 Born Warrington, Lancs
Robert Mitchell Son Age 14 Book Keeper
John D Mitchell Son Age 13
Frances A Mitchell Daughter Age 11
Florrie Mitchell Daughter Age 9
Thomas Mitchell Son Age 7
Arthur Mitchell Son Age 5 Born Sheffield
Edward Mitchell Son Age 2
Alfred Mitchell Son Age ??? months Manchester, Lancs

All others born Manchester Lancs

1881 Census

Thomas Mitchell Head Age 29 Wire Drawer
Catherine Mitchell Wife Age 28 Born Warrington, Lancs
Robert Mitchell Son Age 4 Born Gorton Lancs
John D Mitchell Son Age 3 Born Bradford Lancs
Frances A Mitchell Daughter Age 1 Born Bradford Lancs

Name Thomas Mitchell
Age 29
Estimated Year of Birth 1852
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Wire Drawer
Address 232, Mill Street
District Prestwich, Newton
Parish Bradford
Administrative County Lancashire
Birth Place Manchester
Birth County Lancashire

If you aren't sure if this is the right family because you don't have Thomas 1884's Mothers name, then it is best to buy his birth certificate so you aren't following the wrong family. Let me know if I can help further.

Regards
Janet

thxs Janet, yes this is stanley, its his dad that ive got the prob with how do i do what you ask, thxs again for your help, off to work now .
Linda

Hi Linda,

Is this James Stanley Mitchells birth?

Name James Stanley Mitchell
Year of Registration 1909
Quarter of Registration Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District Prestwich
Registration County Lancashire
Mother's maiden name
Volume Number 8D
Volume Page 421

Have you got any other info on Thomas Mitchell Snr? It may be worth doing a new post so that more experienced members can help, Give all the info you have including any census.

Sorry I can't help further.

Janet