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Hi Rose
William was a general labourer and residing at 160 Crossbank St , Oldham.
The witnesses were John Tracey and Annie Connor.

What was William's occupation and who were the witnesses to the marriage?

Rose

Well it sure does look like Celia and Sarah are the same person then,right? 4 Anthony St is where she's visiting mother Margaret in 1901.

Best,
Maureen

Hi Maureen
It was 4 Anthony Street , Mossley Ashton under Lyne
her father was a William Cosgrove .They married at St Josephs Chapel A- U -L

Hi Jayne,
I won't be able to help you with the "when they came over" part I don't think,but what did Celia put as an address/father's name/witnesses on the marriage cert??

Maureen

Well....a week on and Im still confused .
I ordered the wedding certificate and she is down as CELIA Cosgrove
age 26 married 7th July 1896 to William Connor
so she was Celia on her wedding cert...Cecilia on her sons birth cert , Sarah on 1901 census and Sarah on her death cert. Is she one and the same ?
Its driving us mad :S

Also we found out that Sarah/Celias father came from Galway and her mother from Co Mayo and coincidentally Williams father came from Galway and his mother from C Mayo..(1871 census living in Wood St Cellars Oldham Below Town ).is there any way of finding out if they came over to England at the same time ?
Really appreciate any help and advise given . Thanks :)

oh wonderful thanks so much - knew there was Irish connectionsxx

1881:

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William COSGROVE Head M Male 35 Galway County, Ireland Gass Maker
Margaret COSGROVE Wife M Female 33 Balandine, Ireland
Sarah COSGROVE Daur Female 11 Mossley, Lancashire, England Cotton Cardroom Hand
Thomas COSGROVE Son Male 5 Mossley, Lancashire, England Scholar
John COSGROVE Son Male 3 Mossley, Lancashire, England Scholar
Ann COSGROVE Daur Female 1 Mossley, Lancashire, England
Thomas COSGROVE Boarder U Male 19 Galway County, Ireland Stone Maison Labourer


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Source Information:
Dwelling Turnpike Rd Marlands Buildings
Census Place Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341970
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4058 / 65
Page Number 15

Rose

oh yes I have - Im going bonkers...this is how it all started in the first place - with 2 William Connors on 8d896

I cant find the index for the marriage cert. do I need one ?

You are going to order the marriage certificate for her,I hope!! My curiousity is killing me!!! grin

Maureen

she died in 1935 age 65 years according to death certificate ..so that would fit ..

Well,I think it's this one:
Births Jun 1870
Cosgrave Sarah Ashton 8d 481

Just slightly off,,,and it does say Cosgrave on the actual image.

Naturally,I can't find her in 1871!!

Maureen

oh how strange ! I cant make head nor tail out of all this :)

this gets stranger - there is

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1868
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
COSGROVE Cecelia Ancoats Manchester ANC/130/44

Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1868
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
COSGROVE Sarah Warrington Warrington WAR/58/474

EDIT
probably not the Warrington one the Cosgrave one of Maureen's (below) is the right district as Ashton covers Mossley

Margaret (Maggie)'s birth form alncsbdm shows mmn = Cosgrove

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1899
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
CONNOR Margaret Mary Oldham Below Town Oldham COSGROVE OBT/221/383

I see ....she was visiting her family when the census was taken and the baby was with the neighbours .That would make more sense !! So she could have been Sarah all along . Fascinating

Sorry-really have to go out,but I have a theory that her name was really Sarah Cosgrove-married as Celia and died as Sarah:



1901 census transcription details for: 4, Anthony Street, Mossley

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 3800 Folio: 190 Page: 21


Reg. District: Ashton Under Lyne Sub District: Mossley
Parish: Mossley Enum. District: 10
Ecclesiastical District: Mossley St George City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 4, Anthony Street, Mossley
County: Lancashire

COSGROVE, Margaret Head Widow F 56 1845
Ireland
CONNOR, Sarah Daughter Married F 31 1870 Cotton Frame Tenter
Mossley Lancashire
COSGROVE, Thomas Son Single M 25 1876 Painter & Plumber
Mossley Lancashire
COSGROVE, Annie Daughter Single F 21 1880 Cotton Frame Tenter
Mossley Lancashire
COSGROVE, Katie Daughter Single F 19 1882 Cotton Frame Tenter
Mossley Lancashire
COSGROVE, Willie Son Single M 18 1883 Coal Hewer
Mossley Lancashire
COSGROVE, Maggie Daughter Single F 16 1885 Cotton Frame Tenter
Mossley Lancashire


Maureen

Yes I think thats Maggie - the year fits

Margaret's birth?

Births Mar 1899
Connor Margaret Mary Oldham 8d 631

Rose