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Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 9 Jan 2011 14:52

on the census it is axford

mac

mac Report 9 Jan 2011 14:54

You say Thomas was only able to afford to look after kids of his own - do you know that he had children? Have you found him on any records apart from the marriage?

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 9 Jan 2011 14:57

i as having conversation in county records office and she suggested that mac

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 9 Jan 2011 14:59

he was a fisherman on her death certificate there i got his name as thomas howden roberts on his wedding cert its thomas roberts

mac

mac Report 9 Jan 2011 15:04

So we don't know which name is correct, and his occupation has changed from engineer to fisherman within 2 months. I assume they are the same person, is he recorded as her husband on the death certificate?

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 9 Jan 2011 15:05

yes he is, the witness at her death was her brother in law

mac

mac Report 9 Jan 2011 15:06

What was the brother-in-laws name? He could be Thomas's brother of her sisters husband.

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 9 Jan 2011 15:08

he was thomas howden

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 9 Jan 2011 15:10

i bet when he went to register the death the registrar asked thomas brother in law his name and stuck howden in, because it was on his mind cud that be posibility

mac

mac Report 9 Jan 2011 15:11

Bit of a coincidence, there could be a mis-understanding when registering the death and Thomas Roberts got an extra name?

Were either of Elizabeths sisters married to a Howden? I had already wondered if Thomas Howden Roberts was actually registered as Howden and then took on the extra name of the father.

MarionfromScotland

MarionfromScotland Report 9 Jan 2011 15:12

I've been loking for a howden/ Roberts marriage...no luck

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 9 Jan 2011 15:16

Mary Hannah married Thomas Howden

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 9 Jan 2011 15:17

i got the wedding certificate marion, not sure why its not official

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 9 Jan 2011 15:19

here it is on fee bmd

Marriages Mar 1900 (>99%)
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Axford Elizabeth A Haverfordwest 11a 1481

mac

mac Report 9 Jan 2011 15:19

Who is Mary Hannah??

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 9 Jan 2011 15:21

you asked mac did any of the sisters marry thomas howden

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 9 Jan 2011 15:22

mary hannah wed thomas howden, he came from cleckheaton in yorkshire

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 9 Jan 2011 15:23

they had 12 children, 4 died

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 9 Jan 2011 15:25

dont think we will ever find out ...... thank you all so much for looking

kind regards
shirl

mac

mac Report 9 Jan 2011 15:28

You hadn't given the sisters names, & I haven't tried to find the family on earlier census as you already have them, so I assume this is her sister?

If this is the case, we are probably just looking for plain Thomas Roberts, born c1863 unknown origin, father Thomas, he could be registered on earlier census as an engineer or a fisherman. There are just so many possibilities it would be virtually impossible to find the right one unless he was born locally.

1901 census has a couple of local Thomas Roberts of the right sort of age, single but how do you decide which is him!