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Elizabeth and Thomas appear to have had a second child after the census:


Births Jun 1912 (>99%)
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Godsave George L Leney W. Ham 4a 674

Death:

Name: George Leonard Godsave
Birth Date: 20 May 1912
Death Registration Month/Year: Jan 1990
Age at death (estimated): 77
Registration district: Gloucester
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 22
Page: 2134

BIRTH AND DEATH OF GEORGE'S ELDER BROTHER HENRY (mentioned census 1911)

Birth: Godsave Henry Thomas W. Ham 4a 405 AMj 1908.

Death:

Name: Henry Thomas Godsave
Birth Date: 7 Apr 1908
Death Registration Month/Year: Jun 1995
Age at death (estimated): 87
Registration district: Southend On Sea
Inferred County: Essex
Register number: B63B
District and Subdistrict: 4751B
Entry number: 71

DEATH OF ELIZABETH.:

Name: Elizabeth M Godsave
Death Registration Month/Year: 1961
Age at death (estimated): 79
Registration district: Essex South Western
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 5a
Page: 284

DEATH OF ELIZABETH'S HUSBAND THOMAS:

Name: Thomas Edward Godsave
Birth Date: 7 Jan 1882
Death Registration Month/Year: 1969
Registration district: Waltham Forest
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5e
Page: 932

Census 1891 shows Martha and Thomas Godsave were sister and brother.

Name: Thomas Godsave
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation: Son
Father's name: Arthur A Godsave
Mother's name: Susan Godsave
Gender: Male
Where born: Leytonstone, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Leyton
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Essex
Country: England


Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Leyton
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur A Godsave 41
Susan Godsave 39
Alfred J Godsave 16
Joseph Godsave 13
Susannah Godsave 11
>>>Thomas Godsave 9
>>>Martha E Godsave 5
Elizabeth Challis 66

Looks like Elizabeth did marry Thomas Godsave:

Census 1911:

GODSAVE, Thomas Head Married M 29 1882 Nurseryman Leytonstone Essex .
>>>GODSAVE, Elizabeth Wife Married 3 years F 28 1883 Spitalfields London
GODSAVE, Henry Son M 2 1909 Leytonstone Essex

Registration District:
West Ham Sub District:
South Leyton Enumeration District:
21 Parish:
Cann Hall

Address:
58 Woodhouse Road Leytonstone

Just the one child born of the 3 yr marriage.

EDIT:
Looking back at census 1911 entry for Robert Leney and Martha nee Godsave, the two couples and their families are sharing the same house 58 Woodhouse Rd Leytonstone. both men also worked as nurserymen.

Elizabeth Mary (sister of Robert Alfred and Henry William) Leney also married in West Ham area:

Could she have married Thomas Godsave, and if so, is he related to her brother Robert's wife Martha Godsave?

Marriages Jun 1907 (>99%)
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CLAYTON Frederich George W. Ham 4a 165
CLAYTON Frederick George W. Ham 4a 165
GODSAVE Thomas Edward W.Ham 4a 165
>>LENEY Elizabeth Mary W. Ham 4a 165
WOODELL Polly W. Ham 4a 165

AT last !!!

I think this is William Henry mistranscribed as Loney in census 1911:

Definitely looks like Leney on the original document.
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BURROWS, Charles Head Married 22 years M 46 1865 Licensed Victualler St Lukes Holborn Middlesex
BURROWS, Mercy Augustia Wife Married 22 years F 39 1872 Assist Camberwell S E
BURROWS, Leonard Charles Son Single M 19 1892 Drapery Assistant Lambeth S E
BURROWS, Doris Mercy Daughter Single F 8 1903 School Lambeth S E
GABEEL, Ivy Niece Single F 10 1901 School Camberwell S E .
ANSELL, Herbert Visitor Half Brother Single M 37 1874 Soldier Serg Clerkenwell Holborn E C .
EAST, Grace Florence Servant Single F 18 1893 Barmaid Nunhead VIEW
>>>LONEY, Henry William Servant Single M 30 1881 Head Barman Spitalfield Middlesex .
SEETCH, William George Servant Single M 22 1889 Head Barman Lambeth Surrey .
BRADBROOK, George Arthur Servant Single M 19 1892 Head Barman Northfleet Kent.
MILLS, Lizzie Janie Servant Single F 33 1878 Kitchen Maid St Pancras London .
SUTTON, Ellen Servant Widow F 45 1866 Cook Domestic Plymouth .
HISCOCK, James Charles Nephew Single M 22 1889 Barman Lambeth Surrey .
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Registration District:
Camberwell Sub District:
Peckham North Enumeration District:
21 Parish:
Camberwell

Address:
720 Old Kent Road London S E

Second child for Robert Alfred and Martha:

Birth: Leney William H Godsave W.Ham 4a 56 Sep 1912

Death of Robert Alfred:

Name: Robert Alfred Leney
Birth Date: 5 Jun 1884
Death Registration Month/Year: 1971
Registration district: Barking
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5a
Page: 90


Death of wife Martha:

Name: Martha Emily Leney
Birth Date: 20 Sep 1885
Death Registration Month/Year: 1978
Registration district: Redbridge
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 14
Page: 1334

Death of their son:

Name: William Henry Leney
Birth Date: 14 Aug 1912
Death Registration Month/Year: 1979
Registration district: Colchester
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 9
Page: 2606

Robert Alfred living in West Ham area in census 1911:

LENEY, Robert Head Married M 26 1885 Nurseryman London Spitalfields.
LENEY, Martha Wife Married 4 years F 25 1886 Essex Leytonstone

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Registration District:
West Ham Sub District:
South Leyton Enumeration District:
21 Parish:
Cann Hall

Address:
58 Woodhouse Road Leytonstone

One child born, deceased by 1911.

Robert Alfred Leney also married in West Ham region:


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Marriages Jun 1907 (>99%)
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>>.GODSAVE Martha Emily W.Ham 4a 533
KIMPTON Hilda Mary W. Ham 4a 533
KIMPTON Hilda May W. Ham 4a 533
>>>LENEY Robert Alfred W. Ham 4a 533

Baptism of William Henry's siblings:

Name: Elizabeth Mary Leney
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1882
Baptism Date: 30 Jul 1882
Father's name: Henry Leney
Mother's name: Elizabeth Leney
Parish or Poor Law Union: Spitalfields Christ Church with St Mary and St Stephen
Borough: Tower Hamlets

Name: Robert Alfred Leney
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1884
Baptism Date: 22 Jun 1884
Father's name: Henry Leney
Mother's name: Elizabeth Martha Leney
Parish or Poor Law Union: Spitalfields Christ Church with St Mary and St Stephen
Borough: Tower Hamlets

Marriage of Henry and second wife Caroline:


Marriages Dec 1893 (>99%)
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Leney Henry Whitechapel 1c 523
Yarnall Caroline Whitechapel 1c 523


Deaths of Henry and Caroline?:

Leney Henry 57 W. Ham 4a 258 Sep 1913

Leney Caroline 71 W. Ham 4a 170 Jun 1921

Henry William's father, Henry the coffee house keeper, now remarried, in census 1911?

(At least it gives Henry William a connection to the West ham district, if his father and stepmother lived there)

LENEY, Henry Head Married M 55 1856 Retired Coffee House Keeper London Bethnal Green.
LENEY, Caroline Wife Married 17 years F 62 1849 London Vauxhall
YARNALL, Emma Sister Single F 50 1861 Dressmaker London Millwall
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Registration District:
West Ham Sub District:
South Leyton Enumeration District:
23 Parish:
Cann Hall

Address:
15 Lancaster Road Leytonstone County:
Essex

No children were born of the marriage.

Marriage banns of 'grandpa's parents, William senior and Ann?

Name: William Leney
Spouse Name: Ann Hana
Record Type: Banns
Marriage Bann Date: 17 Aug 1828
Parish: Christ Church, Spitalfields
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets

'Grandpa' William's baptism?:

Name: William Leney
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1830
Baptism Date: 28 Feb 1830
Father's name: William Leney
Mother's name: Ann Leney
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Matthew
Borough: Tower Hamlets

Address: Church Row. father William is a weaver.

Baptism of Henry Leney, father of William Henry and son of William:

Register says born March 30th 1856.

Father a weaver.

Name: Henry Leney
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1856
Baptism Date: 20 Apr 1856
Father's name: William Leney
Mother's name: Mary Ann Leney
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Matthew
Borough: Tower Hamlets

Address: 49 Wilmot St.

Brother William Charles Leney born Feb 7th 1852 baptised at the same time.

Possible marriage for Henry William's grandparents:

Name: William Leney - WEAVER
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Mary Ann Nichols
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 20 Oct 1850
Parish: St James the Less, Bethnal Green
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: William Leney - WEAVER
Spouse Father Name: Charles William Nichols - MARINER

Grooms address: 12 Little Manchester St
Bride's address: 1 Orange St.

Witnesses: Charles William Nichols Sarah Rebecca Nichols

I think you still need to get the 1911 marriage cert to verify name of Henry William's father and his occupation - I think we're moving along the right lines but the marriage cert would provide certainty, at the moment it's still supposition, based on the death cert.

Death of Henry William's mother:

Deaths Mar 1891 (>99%)
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Leney Elizabeth Martha 30 Whitechapel 1c 248

Marriage of Henry William's parents:

Name: Henry Leney - COFFEE HOUSE KEEPER
Age: Full Age
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Martha Neall
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 12 Apr 1879
Parish: St Stephen, Tredegar Road
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: William Leney - COFFEE HOUSE KEEPER
Spouse Father Name: Robert William Neall - Licensed Victualler.

Address for both bride and groom: Bow.

Witnesses : Martha Mary Ann Neale Robert William Neale

Census 1891:

Name: Henry William Leney
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Relation: Son
Father's name: Henry Leney
Gender: Male
Where born: Spitalfields, London, England

Civil Parish: Spitalfields
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: Whitechapel
Sub-registration district: Mile End New Town

Household Members: Name Age
Henry Leney 35 c1856 Bethnal Green, London, England. Widower. Eating House Keeper
Henry William Leney 10 c1881 Spitalfields, London, England.
Mary E Leney 8
Robert D Leney 6
William Leney 61 Grandfather, grandpa c1830 Bethnal Green, London, England.Living on own means.
Mary A Leney 60 grandmother, grandma c1831 Bethnal Green, London, England. Living on own means.
Martha Morris 15 servant.

Address 64 Brick Lane.

Birth: LENEY Henry William Whitechapel 1c 356 JFM 1881.