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Isabella MCTaggart B Abt 1824 Jamaica or Scotland

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Lynski

Lynski Report 28 Dec 2011 04:09

Found this article by googling 'McLean Brothers and Rigg in Scotland"

http://www.auspostalhistory.com/articles/1593.shtml

If you google it there are lots of others as well.

pittsy

pittsy Report 28 Dec 2011 03:53

I have found out some more information from a newspaper article here in Australia.

The newspaper article which is about William Rigg who was born in Australia in 1851 and at the time was 90 years old. He states that his father was a partner in the shipping firm of McLean Brothers and Rigg in Scotland and they purchased a ship before heading to Australia. The company ended opening offices up all over the place. Does anyone know how I can find out any more about this ?

Also the newspaper article states that he had a relative who was a colonel officer at the Battle of Waterloo who received a dinstinction medal.

Help please.
Pittsy

pittsy

pittsy Report 4 Jan 2011 00:09

Catherine
Thanks I will need it I think. Will let you know how I go. Pittsy

Catherine

Catherine Report 3 Jan 2011 23:29

Hope you find the info you require.

All the best from bonnie Scotland - Catherine

pittsy

pittsy Report 3 Jan 2011 23:09

Everyone

I am receiving such a lot of help and if and when I get somewhere I will definitely post my finds. I will have a look at the links suggested - fingers crossed. Liz thanks for the link it worked. I have contacted the distant family member at that site now so fingers crossed their email address has not changed. I had contact with them many years ago.

Appreciate everyone's help.

Pittsy

Catherine

Catherine Report 3 Jan 2011 22:22

You could perhaps contact the Register General's department in Jamaica -

http://www.rgd.gov.jm/?q=genealogical_research

Worth having a look.

Catherine

Catherine

Catherine Report 3 Jan 2011 22:17

Hi Pittsy

I think that may be impossible, but you may find something on travel between UK and Jamaica - that may give a McTaggart the father). You could try :

http://www.cyndislist.com/ships.htm which lists lots of passenger lists, mainly to Australia and US but worth a trawl through.

Others on here may have better ideas.

Regards

Catherine

alviegal

alviegal Report 3 Jan 2011 21:49

Here you are Pittsy. this link should take you right to it.

http://pandora.nla.gov.au/pan/10421/20041220-0000/www.firstfamilies2001.net.au/firstfamily8226.html?id=Rigg6165100069358


Liz

pittsy

pittsy Report 3 Jan 2011 21:45

Catherine

Your post
There is a Jamaican marriage for a David McTaggart & Mary Chase 1820

would be a perfect time for a marriage although Mary is one of the children's name which could easily be her husband John's mothers name being used David is only used as a 2nd name for her 6th child - would this be normal.

Are there any shipping records that I can search from Jamaica to Twynholm Scotland that would have Isabella and other family members traveling so that she could marry John Rigg. This may have been an organised marriage considering how young she was and I am also assuming that her father was from Twynholm also. All spectulative but you never know what I might find.

Thanks

Pittsy

pittsy

pittsy Report 3 Jan 2011 21:40

Alviegal

I have tried find the information you posted on first families 2001 Details First Family Member Details but I have having no luck. Is it possible for you to post the link so I can have a look at it all.

Thanks Pittsy

pittsy

pittsy Report 2 Jan 2011 22:00

Thanks Mel, Catherine and Alviegal

All this information is a lot more than I had. Its awesome

Pittsy

MeJoy75

MeJoy75 Report 2 Jan 2011 21:31

Children born to Herbert & Mary McNie in N.S.W.

Reg No/Yr Last Name Given Name Fathers Name Mothers Name District

35783/1889 Rigg Charles H Herbert T M Broken Hill
8698/1891 Rigg Wallace H Herbert T Mary Broken Hill
8523/1890 Rigg Annie Herbert T Mary Broken Hill

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Jan 2011 14:52

Hi Pittsy

I have opened the original cert and note that there is something written above Isabella's name but I cannot make it out as Campbell. I have tried magnifying it but still really difficult to know what is on there.

Other speculative info:
There is a Jamaican marriage for a David McTaggart & Mary Chase 1820

Regards

Catherine

alviegal

alviegal Report 2 Jan 2011 13:15

I know this doesn't help with Isabella's parentage, but have you seen all this information? You probably know most of it already.


first families 2001 Details First Family Member Details
Family Stories
Descendants

First Family Member Details
Surname: RIGG
Given Name(s): John
Occupation(s): sheep farmer

Birth Details
Birth Town: Tywnholm
Birth County,
Region, Province: Kirkcudbright
Birth Country: Scotland
Birth Date: 1805

Death Details
Death Town: Bank Vale, near Donnybrook
Death State/Territory: Victoria
Death Country: Australia
Death Date: 1863

Immigration Details
Year Arrived: c 1840

Surname: MCTAGGART
Given Name(s): Isabella Campbell

Birth Details
Birth Country: Jamaica

Death Details
Death Town: Melbourne
Death State/Territory: Victoria
Death Country: Australia
Death Date: 1896

Immigration Details
Year Arrived: c 1840


Family Stories

Life in Australia:

John Rigg immigrated to Victoria, Australia about 1840. He was a wheat farmer on part of Bank Vale station, north of Mickleham, in the Donnybrook area north of Melbourne. While ploughing his paddocks he turned up surface gold in 1859. William J. T. Clarke ("Big Clarke") who held the mortage subdivided the farm and sold it to a mining syndicate. John Rigg's station of 640 acres was named "Rocky Water Holes" in Derra Weit Guim.He is also described as a sheep farmer or squatter.His wife was nearly 20 years younger than him. She lived as a widow for 33 years. His eldest daughter Grace Rigg was born in Kircudbright, Scotland. She married William Plummer from Norfolkshire, England in 1864. Not known if she had any children. She may have remarried William Spence. Fourth child Isabella Rigg married Wilhelm Haberecht in 1874 in New South Wales and had children. Sixth child, William Dou Rigg lived in NSW also. Seventh child, Anna or Annie married William Symington (born Sanquhar, Dumfries, Scotland) in 1872 in Victoria. [I am interested in contacting Symington researchers for another branch of my family also. See James Symenton ANDERSON son of Robert Anderson son of immigrant Robert Anderson.] Ninth child, Henry Alfred Wilkinson Rigg married Julia Matilda Anderson in NSW in 1892. She is unrelated to the Andersons mentioned above! Tenth Child, Herbert Thomas Rigg married Mary McNie in Victoria in 1888.

You and Your Family:

Life Before Australia:

John Rigg was the son of James Rigg and his second wife,Grace (Grizzel) Taggart. His siblings were Sarah (1797), Margaret (1799), Mary Herriot/ Harriet (1801), Kathrine (1803), John (1805), Anna (1807), Grace (1809), William (1813) and possibly James (1792) all born in Twynholm, Kirkcudbrightshire in the "Galloway" area of Scotland. His sister Mary Harriet Rigg also came to Victoria, Australia. She married Malcolm McInnes of Geelong in 1847. Not known if they had any children as she was about 48. She returned to Twynholm, Kirkcudbright at some time before her death as a widow in 1879 and was buried in Kirkchrist churchyard. John Rigg's father's first wife was Margaret Brackenridge (who died 15 March 1794 aged 24, and was buried in Kirkchrist churchyard in Twynholm parish.) John's wife was Isabella McTaggart. His mother was Grizzel or Grace Taggart/ McTaggart. Not known if the women were related previously. John's mother, Grizzel (born 1767 in Borgue, Kirkcudbright) was the daughter of John Taggart and Sara Rain. Other children were David (1759), John (1761), Nicholas (a girl- 1763), and Thomas (1770), all born in Borgue parish.

Descendants


Children
RIGG, Grace 1 RIGG, Herbert Thomas 10 RIGG, James 2
RIGG, Mary 3 RIGG, Isabella 4 RIGG, John 5
RIGG, William Dou 6 RIGG, Anna or Annie 7 RIGG, Charles David Ker 8
RIGG, Henry Alfred Wilkinson 9

Grandchildren
RIGG, Annie 10 RIGG, Charles H. 10 RIGG, Wallace H. 10
HABERECHT, Lucretia 4 SYMINGTON, Agnes 7 SYMINGTON, William 7
RIGG, Edgar Wilkinson 9 RIGG, Ethel May 9 RIGG, Grace R. 9
RIGG, Isabella Alice 9 RIGG, Louisa May 9

NB: Superscript behind each descendant name represents the lineage number of that descendant.
This family information was last updated by VALERIE GRACE ANDERSON on the 31 August, 1998.

pittsy

pittsy Report 2 Jan 2011 01:13

Perhaps I should be trying to find John Kerr Rigg as this KERR name must be a family name and I have not found it on the father's side so it could be a clue on Isabella's side.

Pittsy

pittsy

pittsy Report 1 Jan 2011 22:00

Kath

Grace could have been Isabella's mothers name being their first born but John Rigg's mother was Grace Taggart so I have always thought that the first 2 children were named after James Rigg and Grace Taggart who were the parents of John Rigg (isabella's husband). The children of the marriage of John Rigg and Isabella Campbell MacTaggart are Grace, James, Mary, Isabella, John Kerr (Interesting middle name), William Doug, Ann, Charles David Ker (?again), Henry Alfred Wilkinson (my direct line) and Herbert Thomas. Thanks Pittsy

pittsy

pittsy Report 1 Jan 2011 21:43

Catherine I no longer have ancestry so cannot check the slave registers.

Pittsy

pittsy

pittsy Report 1 Jan 2011 21:36

This is getting very interesting and it is not something I am very proud of in my family history. I have tried chasing the Campbell name with no luck - obviously it is such a common name also but I would think it was definitely her mother's name as this is on the wedding listing also in Scotland. The record says John Rigg of Highbanks and Isabella Campbell McTaggart. Is there anyway of tracing a shipping list from Jamaica to Scotland between 1824-and the wedding 1838 ?

Many thanks to everyone for their help in this matter.

alviegal

alviegal Report 1 Jan 2011 12:42

James White McTaggart appears to have children or siblings James White and Amey? Their guardian is said to be Ann White.

Amey 'inherits' these slaves in 1829.

Slave Registers of former British Colonial Dependencies, 1812-1834
about Alex White
Name: Alex White
Estimated birth year: abt 1814
Age: 15
Nationality: Creole
Gender: Male
Parish: St Thomas in The East
Colonial Dependency: Jamaica
Owner Name: Amey Mctaggart
Record Date: 1829



Match quality: 1 out of 5 Pomilia Mctaggart abt 1773 St Thomas in The East Jamaica 1829 Amey Mctaggart
View Record

Match quality: 1 out of 5 Jas Benj Mctaggat abt 1824 St Thomas in The East Jamaica 1829 Amey Mctaggart

alviegal

alviegal Report 1 Jan 2011 12:15

Just one of David's slaves.

Slave Registers of former British Colonial Dependencies, 1812-1834
about Fancy
Name: Fancy
Estimated birth year: abt 1782
Age: 47
Nationality: Creole
Gender: Female
Parish: St Ann
Colonial Dependency: Jamaica
Owner Name: David Mctaggart
Record Date: 1829


and Isabella's. David signs this as Guardian of his daughter, Isabella.

Slave Registers of former British Colonial Dependencies, 1812-1834
about Kate
Name: Kate
Estimated birth year: abt 1812
Age: 14
Nationality: Creole
Gender: Female
Parish: St Ann
Colonial Dependency: Jamaica
Owner Name: Isabella A Mctaggart
Record Date: 1826


and

Slave Registers of former British Colonial Dependencies, 1812-1834
about Eliza
Name: Eliza
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Age: 15 Mos
Nationality: Creole
Gender: Female
Parish: St Ann
Colonial Dependency: Jamaica
Owner Name: Isabella Ann Mctaggart
Record Date: 1829


daughter of above Kate. David signs this record and describes himself as Guardian of Isabella Ann.