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Keith

Keith Report 28 Dec 2010 15:27

My great grandfather - Nathan Newbould - had 4 surviving children according to the 1901 census. My Grandfather, James Alfred Newbould - born 8th Aug 1893 and his older brother William, born 1888 had two sister named Cecilia (aka Cissy) and Annie - neither of the sisters are mentioned on the census. Could anyone advise on how best to trace them ? other than their names I have no age or birth date information.

thanks

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 28 Dec 2010 15:34

Do you know when and where Nathan got married? Do you know his wife's name?

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 28 Dec 2010 15:37

Is this the family on the 1901 please?

1901 England Census
about James A Newbould
Name: James A Newbould
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1894
Relation: Son
Father's name: Nathan Newbould
Mother's name: Ann Newbould
Gender: Male
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: All Souls
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: West Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 154
Household Members: Name Age
Nathan Newbould 46
Ann Newbould 44
William Newbould 13
James A Newbould 7
Mary Y Newbould 36

1891 England Census
about Nathan Newbould
Name: Nathan Newbould
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann Newbould
Gender: Male
Where born: Pateley Bridge, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: All Souls
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: West Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Nathan Newbould 37
Ann Newbould 35
William Newbould 4



Why did I start this?

Why did I start this? Report 28 Dec 2010 15:40

NEWBOULD, Nathan Head Married M 57 1854 Wheelwright Patley Bridge VIEW
NEWBOULD, Ann Wife Married
31 years F 55 1856 Walton VIEW
NEWBOULD, William Son Single M 22 1889 Coach Painter Leeds VIEW
NEWBOULD, James A Son Single M 17 1894 Tixile Printer Leeds VIEW
SIMPSON, E Boarder Single F 5 1906 Leeds VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
27006 Reference:
RG14PN27006 RG78PN1548A RD500 SD3 ED25 SN151

Registration District:
Leeds Sub District:
West Leeds Enumeration District:
25 Parish:
Leeds

Address:
14 Claro Avenue Cambridge Road Woodhouse Leeds County:
Yorkshire (West riding)

Is this them in 1911 ?
Elaine

EVEIE

EVEIE Report 28 Dec 2010 15:47

Name: Ann Newbould
Year of Registration: 1880
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Wakefield
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 82

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 28 Dec 2010 15:47

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Nathan Newbould
Name: Nathan Newbould
Year of Registration: 1879
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Leeds (1837-1929)
County: Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9b
Page: 512


****Nathan Newbould 1879 Leeds (1837-1929) Yorkshire - West Riding
*****Ann Reader 1879 Leeds (1837-1929) Yorkshire - West Riding
William Henry Slater 1879 Leeds (1837-1929) Yorkshire - West

Why did I start this?

Why did I start this? Report 28 Dec 2010 15:48

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1921 (>99%)
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Faulkner Dorothy Grace Warrington 8c 241
Grace Arthur Faulkner Warrington 8c 241
Newbould Cecilia M Phillips Warrington 8c 241
Phillips Victor Newbould Warrington 8c 241
Povey Cyril J Taylor Warrington 8c 241

Is this Cecilia ?


Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 28 Dec 2010 15:49

Elaine thats the same address on th e1911 as in the two census I put up.

Nickydownsouth

Nickydownsouth Report 28 Dec 2010 15:52

The only Cecilia Newbould information that comes up on freeBMD between 1880 and 1940..

Marriages Jun 1921 (>99%)
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Faulkner Dorothy Grace Warrington 8c 241
Grace Arthur Faulkner Warrington 8c 241
>>>Newbould Cecilia M Phillips Warrington 8c 241
>>>Phillips Victor Newbould Warrington 8c 241
Povey Cyril J Taylor Warrington 8c 241



Nicky

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 28 Dec 2010 15:52

If this is the same family as above but in the 1881 census perhaps Jane Annie is Annie?

Name: Nathan Newbould
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann Newbould
Gender: Male
Where born: Pately Bridge, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 17 Claro Avenue
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Occupation: Wheelwright (Out Of Employ)

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: West Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Nathan Newbould 28
Ann Newbould 25 b Norfolk
Jane Annie Newbould 3mths b Leeds

Keith

Keith Report 28 Dec 2010 15:52

the 1911 census show them as being married for 31 years so I assume they were married around 1880. Could be 1879 - I have seen a similar entry.

Reply from Mel is correct - this is the same family in 1902

Reply from Elaine - yes, this is same family in 1911

Keith

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 28 Dec 2010 16:01

But Keith they don't have 4 children on any of these census!! The Mary Y on one census is Nathan's sister.

Why did I start this?

Why did I start this? Report 28 Dec 2010 16:01

Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%)
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Blackburn William Sinclair Halifax 9a 870
Cromie Stephen Thompson Halifax 9a 870
Hollis Lilly Ann Halifax 9a 870
Newbould Jane Annie Halifax 9a 870

Nickydownsouth

Nickydownsouth Report 28 Dec 2010 16:03

Births Mar 1881 (>99%)
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Newbould Jane Annie Leeds 9b 532


Nicky

Keith

Keith Report 28 Dec 2010 16:05

you are all very kind - I have been struggling to find this information for days - you find it in minutes - I obviously have a lot of learning to do.

Jane Annie Newbould looks spot on - I didn't expect to find any siblings so many years older than my grandfather.

Nickydownsouth

Nickydownsouth Report 28 Dec 2010 16:11

Looking at freeBMD there are quite a few Newbould children who were born then died between the census years, any of them could belong to this family.

If you can find any baptisms for the family you may find who is missing.



nicky

Keith

Keith Report 28 Dec 2010 16:13

Mel , the 1911 census "household members" shows them as being married for 31 years, 5 children born alive, 4 children living, 1 child died.

William and James Alfred are shown on the census but the sisters aren't. looking at the information you have very kindly supplied, they must be older and have either married and moved out or just moved out.

thanks

Keith

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 28 Dec 2010 16:14

1861 England Census
about Nathan Newbould
Name: Nathan Newbould
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relation: Son
Father's name: William Newbould
Mother's name: Jane Newbould
Gender: Male
Where born: Bewerley, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Bewerley
Ecclesiastical parish: Greenhow Hill
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Pateley Bridge
Sub-registration district: Pateley Bridge Ripon (part) (Divided between RG 9/3193, 3195 3199 and 3200 3201)
ED, institution, or vessel: 4e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 94
Household Members: Name Age
William Newbould 32
Jane Newbould 35
Nathan Newbould 7
Thomas Newbould 6
James Newbould 3
Ann Newbould 1


LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 28 Dec 2010 16:17

This could be Jane Annie in the 1891 census

Name: Jane A Newbould
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Arthington
Ecclesiastical parish: Arthington St Peters
Town: Arthington
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: Wharefdale
Sub-registration district: Fewston
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Newbould 64 m (dependent on husband's wages who pro tem lives in Northamptonshire)
Margaret Newbould 28 dau single
Jane A Newbould 10 grand daughter
Rebecca Newbould 7 grand daugher
Mary Newbould 3 grand daughter

All born Leeds

Rebecca & Mary could be siblings to Jane A or cousins.


Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 28 Dec 2010 17:00

Had to do my chickens!!

The only Cissy I can find on IGI is born 1809 to George Newbould and his wife.

CICELY NEWBOULD Pedigree
Female
Birth:
Christening: 05 MAR 1809 Pateley Bridge, Yorkshire, England


Parents:
Father: GEORGE NEWBOULD Family
Mother: BETTY

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.