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Hi Mike.

Its the birth cert for Edwin that i have, that gives her name as Mary Ann Elizabeth Guinea.

Mike, Lisa has a child's birth cert. She knows the mother's maiden name.

Ozi

Hi.

George Wahsington 1843c (USA British Subjects)
John Henry 1850c (USA Brithish Subjects)
Joshua Timothy 1854c
Louisa 1859c
Job 1866c
Joseph 1867c
Edwin 13th April 1856.

These are all the children i have found, so i dont know if there was anymore between George and John??

This birth cert would tell you which Mary, John Rumsey married.
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Births Jun 1854
RUMSEY Joshua Timothy - Poole 5a 301

1871: George W Rumsey Emma abt 1843 USA British Subject Head Alverstoke, Hampshire

Are there any children between George & John?

Have you found George Wasshington in the UK census?

Yes George Washington was the eldest, but i havent been able to find him or John H in the states at all. I did wonder if Mary was from the states orginally but again i cant find anything.

Thanks

Hi Ozibird.

Yes it is.

Thanks

As Mary Ann consistantly lists her birthplace as Oxfordshire in the census it would seem unlikley that she was born in London. She may have even married in the States

Is George Washington their eldest?

Is this one of the census you refer to?

1861 England Census
Name: Mary Ann Rumsey
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1823
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John Rumsey
Gender: Female
Where born: Oxfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Canford
Ecclesiastical parish: Kinson
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Street address:

Registration district: Poole
Sub-registration district: Canford
Household Members: Name Age
John Rumsey 43 - Steepley Leese, Dorset; Innkeeper
Mary Ann Rumsey 38
John H Rumsey 11 - New Jersey; British Sub, United States
Joshua Rumsey 7 - Kinson, Dorset
Edwin Rumsey 5 - Kinson, Dorset
Louisa Rumsey 2 - Kinson, Dorset
James Rose 35 - lodger
John Loader 68 - lodger
Thomas Read 55 - lodger
George Forrest 40 - lodger

Hi Margaret.

I have all her childrens names and a birth cert for one of them, this is how i know her maiden name.

Her husband was John Rumsey born 1820c in Steepley Leese, Dorset.

Thanks Ginny.

The marriage I posted is about the time to match the birth you posted, also her father is Samuel

I think youre getting Mary's mixed up

If she's a relative of yours you should be working backwards from what you know for certain. Is she a direct ancestor? If so you should know her childrens' names but you don't even know her husband's name.

Hi Mike. and K.

Marriages Jun 1838 (>99%)
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GUINEA Mary Bedminster 11 73
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I was trying find any possiblities for her. Because her first two sons George Washington and John Henry on 1871 census say they are USA British Subjects.
Her place of birth states she is from Oxfordshire.
George and John were baptised 5 Aug 1853 in Great Canford.

I cant locate their birthplace aswell as Mary Ann Elizabeth.

Thanks.

I think this is the marriage you refer to but there is no matching John Rumsey

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1838 (>99%)
>>>GUINEA Mary Bedminster 11 73
HANCOCK George Bedminster 11 73
HEDGES Thomas Bedminster 11 73
HUNT Sarah Bedminster 11 73
PHILLIPS Louisa Bedminster 11 73
Price Mary Bedminster 11 73
SIDMAN James Bedminster 11 73
SIMS James Bedminster 11 73

Where did you get John Rumsey as groom ?
No marriage listed

Is this the marriage you thought was your Mary ?

Marriages Jun 1876 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Guernsey Mary Caroline Kensington 1a 7
Long Ann Kensington 1a 7
Pochin John Henry Kensington 1a 7
Rumsey John Woodman Kensington 1a 7

Hi Ginny.

Thanks for your reply. She married John Rumsey not Francis Jackson, i believe Mary may have married John in 1838 Somerset???

Thanks.

Marriages Dec 1847 (>99%)
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****************Guinery Mary Elizabeth Lambeth 4 312
JACKSON Francis Lambeth 4 312
JONES James Lambeth 4 312
MANNING Jane Lambeth 4 312
MANSER Harriet Lambeth 4 312
MATTHEWS John Matthew Lambeth 4 312
Pelling Elizabeth Lambeth 4 312
STOKES James Lambeth 4 312