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Ozibird
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12 Dec 2010 19:46 |
Had some fun with this one, Blue, and I'm pleased it matches your info.
Demolition Oz.
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Chris Ho :)
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12 Dec 2010 17:02 |
Glad we could be of help Blue, we like the sound of Brickwalls smashing on GR, lol :-) Just add if you need anything else.
Chris :)
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12 Dec 2010 13:01 |
Hi Chris and Ozi and jaz, you've cracked it! thank you so much. Him being a widow explains it all.Thank fully my husbands grandfather is the son Robert born 1861 so i can now add his mother at last. I found out by fluke really yesterday that James's father was Francis and i think on James baptism it does say Francis is a Calico printer. I'm so happy that this horrible brick wall is smashed at last.
Just going to print all of this out and search for all the docs on Ancestry.
Blue xx
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Ozibird
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11 Dec 2010 23:12 |
It took a while, but I'm pretty sure we got there. As you say, jax, a birth cert will confirm.
Ozi
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11 Dec 2010 22:56 |
Thats what I thought Ozi
So It was Sarah Lambley he married after he was widowed from his first wife Mary Cox You could purchase a childs birth cert to confirm
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Ozibird
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11 Dec 2010 22:48 |
I think there has been a mistake there. He was widowed but probably not her.
Ozi
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11 Dec 2010 22:45 |
If she was a widow surely she would have married in her last married name?
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11 Dec 2010 22:37 |
Name: Sarah Lamley Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1828 Baptism Date: 20 Jul 1828 Father's name: Robert Lamley Mother's name: Ann Lamley Parish or Poor Law Union: St Andrew Holborn Borough: City of London
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11 Dec 2010 22:30 |
1851 England Census Name: Sarah Lamley Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1829 Relation: Head Gender: F (Female) Where born: Holborn, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Clerkenwell Ecclesiastical parish: St James County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: 11 Little Warner St
Occupation: Needle Woman
Condition as to marriage: Unmarried
Registration district: Clerkenwell Sub-registration district: St James Clerkenwell ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Household Members: Name Age Sarah Lamley 22
1841 England Census Name: Sarah Lumbley Age: 13 Estimated birth year: abt 1828 Gender: Female Where born: Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St Andrew Holborn (Above The Bars) Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: Cotterells Place
Registration district: Holborn Sub-registration district: St Andrew Eastern Household Members: Name Age Robert Lumbley 45 - Ostler Ann Lumbley 30 William Lumbley 17 Robert Lumbley 14 Sarah Lumbley 13 John Lumbley 8 Ann Lumbley 5 James Lumbley 1 Robert snr & jnr, Ann snr & William all born out of county.
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11 Dec 2010 21:51 |
If you have the birth certs for the children does Sarahs maiden name say Coe?
I see the marriage in 1855 that chris ho gave you says she is a widow but does name Robert Lambley as her father??
I cannot see a marriage for a Lambley to anyone called Sarah or a Sarah Lambley with a father called Robert so is this bit made up perhaps?
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11 Dec 2010 21:40 |
Deaths Jun 1853 Faulkner Sarah Hackney 1b 175
????? Deaths Jun 1872 FAULKNER Francis 78 Westminster 1a 275 [c1794]
1861 England Census Name: Francis Faulker Age: 67 Estimated birth year: abt 1794 Relation: Infirm Inmate Gender: Male Where born: Crayford, Kent, England Civil Parish: St Pancras Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: Cleveland Street, Fitzroy Square, London
Occupation: Calico Printer [This time 'printer' is very clear. Calico isn't as good, but I think it is right.]
Condition as to marriage: widower
Registration district: Pancras Sub-registration district: Tottenham Court ED, institution, or vessel: Strand Union Workhouse
1871 England Census Name: Francis Faulkner Age: 77 Estimated birth year: abt 1794 Relation: Inmate Gender: Male Where born: Oxfordshire, England Civil Parish: St James Westminster Ecclesiastical parish: St John The Baptist County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Westminster Sub-registration district: Golden Square ED, institution, or vessel: Westminster Union Workhouse
Occupation: Printer
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Ozibird
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11 Dec 2010 21:30 |
I wondered about that, but 1851 doesn't look like it. I was trying to think how it could fit into printing.
Ozi
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11 Dec 2010 20:05 |
Wonder if it's Calico Printer, as on marriage image, 1841 is very faint.
Chris :)
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11 Dec 2010 19:27 |
1851 England Census Name: Francis Faulkner Age: 57 Estimated birth year: abt 1794 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Sarah Faulkner Gender: M (Male) Where born: Crayford, Kent, England Civil Parish: Hackney Ecclesiastical parish: Homerton County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: 8 Albert St
Occupation: Ca ___[??] Painter [Can't work out first word but it's not cameo]
Registration district: Hackney Sub-registration district: Hackney Household Members: Name Age Francis Faulkner 57 Sarah Faulkner 55 - Chalbury, Oxfordshire
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11 Dec 2010 19:05 |
???? 1841 England Census Name: Francis Faulkner Age: 45 Estimated birth year: abt 1796 Gender: Male Civil Parish: St John Hackney Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: Retreat Place, Highhill Ferry
Occupation: Cameo Painter [writing is very faint but looks this]
Registration district: Hackney Sub-registration district: Stamford Hill <<<<<<<<<<<<< Household Members: Name Age Francis Faulkner 45 Sarah Faulkner 45 Neither born in county.
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Chris Ho :)
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11 Dec 2010 15:25 |
James William Faulkner Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1819 Baptism Date: 20 Jun 1819 Father's name: Francis Faulkner Mother's name: Sarah Faulkner Parish or Poor Law Union: Hackney St John Borough: Hackney
(abode on image says Stamford Hill, father's Occ. Printer)
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11 Dec 2010 15:03 |
Births Mar 1851 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FAULKNER Frederick Paull London
: Frederick Paull Faulkner Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1861 Baptism Date: 24 Nov 1861 Father's name: James William Faulkner Mother's name: Sarah Faulkner Parish or Poor Law Union: St Bartholomew by the Exchange Borough: City of London
(birthdate given on image as 3rd Jan. 1851)
also baptised on same day as above, Charles Henry born 2nd Nov. 1853 and Robert 6th Dec. 1860
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Chris Ho :)
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11 Dec 2010 14:48 |
1851 Census FAULKNER, James Head Married M 32 1819 Printer London Middlesex VIEW FAULKNER, Mary Wife Married F 21 1830 London Middlesex VIEW FAULKNER, James Son M 11 1840 Scholar London Middlesex VIEW FAULKNER, Sarah Daughter F 9 1842 Scholar London Middlesex VIEW FAULKNER, Emma Daughter F 7 1844 London Middlesex VIEW FAULKNER, Frederick Son M 0 (3 MOS) 1851 London Middlesex VIEW COX, Mary Visitor Widow F 60 1791 Winchester Hants VIEW RG number: HO107 Piece: 1528 Folio: 84 Page: 22 Registration District: City of London Sub District: South West Enumeration District: 2B Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Saint Ann Blackfriars Municipal Borough: London Address: 1, Curriers Row, Saint Ann Blackfriars, London (James with first wife, 1851)
Name: James Faulkner Age: Full Age Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Spouse Name: Mary Cox Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 12 May 1839 Parish: St Pancras Parish Church County: Middlesex Borough: Camden Father Name: Fras Faulkner Spouse Father Name: John Cox
(that marriage, Occupation Printer)
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11 Dec 2010 14:43 |
1871 Census FAULKNER, Sarah Head F 43 1828 Not Known VIEW FAULKNER, Wm L Son M 14 1857 Not Known VIEW FAULKNER, Robert Son M 10 1861 Not Known VIEW FAULKNER, Ann E Daughter F 7 1864 Not Known VIEW FAULKNER, Lydia Daughter F 3 1868 Not Known VIEW RG number: RG10 Piece: 732 Folio: 69 Page: 19 Registration District: Camberwell Sub District: Peckham Enumeration District: 13 Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Camberwell Municipal Borough: Address: James Cottage, Camberwell County: London, Surrey (seems they had roughly 7 children, according to London Baptisms)
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11 Dec 2010 14:24 |
1861 Census FAULKNER, James W Head Married M 41 1820 Lithographic Painter Hackney Middlesex VIEW FAULKNER, Sarah Wife Married F 33 1828 St Andrews Holborn Middlesex VIEW FAULKNER, Frederick Son M 10 1851 Scholar ... London VIEW FAULKNER, Charles Son M 7 1854 Scholar ... London VIEW FAULKNER, Enid Daughter F 6 1855 Scholar Lambeth Surrey VIEW FAULKNER, William Son M 4 1857 Hackney Middlesex VIEW FAULKNER, Robert Son M 0 (4M) 1861 Cripplegate Middlesex VIEW RG number: RG09 Piece: 213 Folio: 9 Page: 12 Registration District: East London Sub District: 2 Cripplegate Enumeration District: 1 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Bartholomew Civil Parish: St Giles Cripplegate Municipal Borough: London Address: 3a, Green Arbour Court, St Giles Cripplegate, London County: London, Middlesex
William Lambley Faulkner Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1860 Baptism Date: 8 Jul 1860 Father's name: James William Faulkner Mother's name: Sarah Faulkner Parish or Poor Law Union: Shoreditch St James Borough: Hackney
(image on birthdate given as 8th Dec. 1856)
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