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9 Dec 2010 15:13 |
Looks like this is who Maria jnr was named after
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Malibran
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9 Dec 2010 15:06 |
Births Sep 1880 COLLINS Adrian John F Kensington 1a 48
Marriages Mar 1931 Collins Adrian J F Kirkpatrick Holborn 1b 696 Kirkpatrick Ida Collins Holborn 1b 696
Births Dec 1881 Collins Elsie Kensington 1a 9
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COLLINS, Malibran Boarder Widow F 54 1857 Private Means London Islington COLLINS, Adrian Boarder Single M 30 1881 Tutor And Assistant London Bayswater
RG number: RG14 Piece: 1174 Reference: RG14PN1174 RD12 SD1 ED5 SN92 Registration District: St Giles Sub District: St Giles and Bloomsbury Enumeration District: 5 Parish: St Giles in the Fields and St George Bloomsbury Address: Ivarthor Hotel Bloomsbury ST County: London
Note - says she'd had 2 children - none had died.
1911:
COLLINS, Elsie Boarder Single F 30 1881 Private Means London Bayswater
RG number: RG14 Piece: 4771 Reference: RG14PN4771 RG78PN205 RD70 SD1 ED1 SN8 Registration District: Battle Sub District: Bexhill Enumeration District: 1 Parish: Bexhill Address: Granville Hotel Sea Road Bexhill
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9 Dec 2010 15:02 |
1881:
COLLINS, John Head Married M 62 1819 Income From House Property St George Hanover SQ Middlesex COLLINS, Elizth Wife Married F 54 1827 Paddington Middlesex COLLINS, George W Son Married M 28 1853 Violinist Paddington Middlesex COLLINS, Maria M Daughter In Law Married F 28 1853 Paddington Middlesex COLLINS, Adrian J F Grand Son Single M 0 1881 Paddington Middlesex MOORE, Ellen Servant Single F 23 1858 Dom Servt Kensington Middlesex TIMMS, Eliza Servant Single F 19 1862 Paddington Middlesex
RG number: RG11 Piece: 14 Folio: 12 Page: 17 Registration District: Kensington Sub District: St Mary Paddington Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Paddington Municipal Borough: Address: 3, Newton Road, Paddington County:
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9 Dec 2010 15:01 |
1891:
COLLING, George W Head Married M 37 1854 Musician Paddington London COLLING, Marie Wife Married F 38 1853 Bayswater London COLLING, Adrian Son M 10 1881 Scholar Bayswater London COLLING, Elsie Daughter F 9 1882 Scholar Bayswater London CLARK, Emma Servant Single F 19 1872 Domestic Servant Shepherds Bush London
RG number: RG12 Piece: 36 Folio: 142 Page: 10 Registration District: Fulham Sub District: St Paul Hammersmith Enumeration District: 5 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Paul Civil Parish: Hammersmith Municipal Borough: Address: 59, Bridge Avenue, Hammersmith, St Pauls County: London
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9 Dec 2010 14:59 |
1901:
COLLINS, George W Head Married M 47 1854 Professor Of Music ( Retired ) Paddington London COLLINS, Marie Wife Married F 47 1854 Islington London COLLINS, Adrian Son Single M 20 1881 Paddington London COLLINS, Elsie Daughter Single F 19 1882 Paddington London BUSH, Ada Servant Single F 32 1869 Cook Domestic Camden Town London BLORE, Rose Servant Single F 21 1880 House Maid Domestic Polestead Suffolk
RG number: RG13 Piece: 63 Folio: 20 Page: 31 Registration District: Fulham Sub District: North-East Fulham Enumeration District: 22 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Andrew Civil Parish: Fulham Municipal Borough: Address: 12, Charleville Mansions, Fulham County: London
Possible death for George -
Deaths Jun 1907 Collins George Walter 54 Marylebone 1a 350
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9 Dec 2010 14:53 |
Possible death?
Deaths Sep 1928 Collins Maria M 80 Marylebone 1a 515
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9 Dec 2010 14:45 |
Marriages Jun 1879 COLLINS George Walter Westminster 1a 824 MONTGOMERY Maria Malibran Westminster 1a 824
MARIA MALIBRAN MONTGOMERY Pedigree Female Family Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Parents: Father: WILLIAM HENRY MONTGOMERY Family Marriages: Spouse: GEORGE WALTER COLLINS Family (Father John Collins) Marriage: 29 MAY 1879 Saint James, Westminster, London, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M147514 1875 - 1882 1042326 Film 6904123 Film Sheet: 00
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9 Dec 2010 14:43 |
Possible death for Maria - if she was ill and went back to where she was from...
Deaths Sep 1881 MONTGOMERY Maria 61 Brighton 2b 103
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FamilyFogey
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9 Dec 2010 14:41 |
Oooh good one Chris - probably right!
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9 Dec 2010 14:41 |
Quite sad possible entry for Maria in 1881 at 10, Cancer Hospital, Osnaburgh Street, St Pancras
MONTGOMERY, Maria Patient Married F 60 1821 Patient Brighton Sussex
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Chris Ho :)
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9 Dec 2010 14:40 |
Occupation looks like Vocalist.
Chris :)
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9 Dec 2010 14:36 |
1871: MONTGOMERY, Willm Henry Head M 50 1821 Professor of Music Lambeth Surrey MONTGOMERY, Maria Wife F 40 1831 Brighton Sussex MONTGOMERY, Malchson M* Daughter F 20 1851 Islington Middlesex SUIMBL, Jane Servant F 45 1826 Knighton Radnorshire
RG number: RG10 Piece: 135 Folio: 71 Page: 17 Registration District: Westminster Sub District: St James Square Enumeration District: 9 Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: St James Municipal Borough: Westminster Address: Duke Street, St James, Westminster County: London, Middlesex
Daughter's name is probably down as Malivran but mistrancribed. Cannot read her occupation - any ideas anyone?
The servant's name doesn't look like Suimbl at all - but no idea what it is.
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9 Dec 2010 14:32 |
Great work guys - certainly goes to show about how you need to work backwards - going through the censuses to find a possible place of birth to look in the right place!
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9 Dec 2010 14:20 |
England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940 about Harriet Dawson Name: Harriet Dawson Gender: Female Spouse's name: William Izard Marriage Date: 5 May 1807 Marriage Place: Brighton, Sussex, England
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Chris Ho :)
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9 Dec 2010 14:04 |
1861 Census MONTGOMERY, William H Head Married M 46 1815 Professor Of Music London VIEW MONTGOMERY, Maria Wife Married F 36 1825 Brighton Sussex VIEW MONTGOMERY, Maria M Daughter F 13 1848 Islington Middlesex VIEW RG number: RG09 Piece: 125 Folio: 3 Page: 2 Registration District: Islington Sub District: 1 Islington West Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish: St Mary Civil Parish: Islington Municipal Borough: Address: 7, Upper Street, Islington County: London, Middlesex Chris :)
Name: Maria Malivran Montgomery (looks like Malibran) Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1848 Baptism Date: 8 Mar 1848 Father's name: William Henry Montgomery Mother's name: Maria Montgomery Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington St Mary Borough: Islington
(birthdate given on image as 1st Dec. 1847)
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9 Dec 2010 13:58 |
The Brighton Baptism is the right one as it agrees with the 1841 census which has her living Brighthelmstone (as Brighton was formerly known)with William
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Joanne
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9 Dec 2010 13:58 |
O sorry No i don't
I'm not that good with reading or understanding what people write So i'm sorry
That is all what i found nothing else but i will now look to see what i can found.
I will have to do this when i get back from Hospital in a few hours but thanks for taking out Xx :)
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9 Dec 2010 13:52 |
I know her name is stated as Maria Izard on the marriage - but what I'm trying to explain is that names like Maria, Mary, Mary Ann, and spellings like Izzard / Izard are pretty interchangeable. People may have been baptised as Mary Ann but decide to call themselves Maria or just Mary etc.
Do you have them together on any censuses?
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Joanne
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9 Dec 2010 13:47 |
On the marriage it says MARIA IZARD
No i didn't know that,(thats where my daughter gets her music skill from then)HAHA!! if i'm right he was my great great great great grandfather on my nan's side I will look this up thank you for all your help i can't thank you enough :0)
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9 Dec 2010 13:37 |
Do you mean Maria / Mary Ann? Quite interchangeable, like Ann/Anne/Annie
I suppose you know that William Henry Montgomery was a musician?
Found this entry:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rogers/Genealogy/TheatricalDeaths.html William Henry Montgomery aged 75 – died 12th September 1886. Musical composer*
The marriage entry gives his father as Charles Montgomery - Comedian.
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