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Angela
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8 Dec 2010 23:15 |
Hi Lancashire Ann Thanks for your reply im signing off now im tired Thank Again Angela
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lancashireAnn
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8 Dec 2010 23:08 |
Sorry I do not have any access to census info
the sites I used to find the info I gave you were
lan-opc.org.uk
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cumbriabmd.org.uk
which is a new site which at the moment only covers Barrow but most birth entries provide mother's maiden name
I can see why if you are not used to the bmd sites, you could think the Eccleston was a place name as there are a few around with that name
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Angela
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8 Dec 2010 23:03 |
Hi Lancashire Ann Thank you for the surname of Sarah sorry I must be thick thought that it was the place Eccleston. I am a pensioner that my excuse anyway thanks for the info on the children of Sarah and John I only had Thomas who was bornin 1829 .Do you know hen and where they were married. I know John and Sarah wee born abt 1808 . Alsodo you have access to th 1911 census. I would like to know wher the family where living I suspect they could have still been in Raglan Street. Thanks for your help Angela
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lancashireAnn
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8 Dec 2010 22:51 |
James' baptism - abode matches the 1837 death of John age 33
Baptism: 7 May 1837 St Cuthbert, Kirkby Ireleth, Lancashire, England James Robinson - son of John Robinson & Sarah Abode: Chapels Occupation: Labourer Baptised by: C Graham, Vicar Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1838 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 150, Entry 1202 Source: LDS Film 1040307
Ellen
Baptisms: 9 Dec 1832 St Cuthbert, Kirkby Ireleth, Lancashire, England Ellen Robinson - dau of John Robinson & Sarah Abode: Wallend Occupation: Labourer Baptised by: C Graham, Vicar Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1838 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 122, Entry 976 Source: LDS Film 1040307
Jane
Baptisms: 19 Apr 1835 St Cuthbert, Kirkby Ireleth, Lancashire, England Jane Robinson - dau of John Robinson & Sarah Abode: Wallend Occupation: Labourer Baptised by: C Graham, Vicar Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1838 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 138, Entry 1099 Source: LDS Film 1040307
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lancashireAnn
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8 Dec 2010 22:32 |
you don't need to buy a birth cert for George Pearson Ronbison's mother maiden name. I gave it you above as recorded on cumbriabmd - = Eccleston
also probable siblings Robert, Sarah & Thomas
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lancashireAnn
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8 Dec 2010 22:28 |
i would guess this is the 1837 death (Kirby Ireleth is Ulverston district)
Burial: 20 Sep 1837 St Cuthbert, Kirkby Ireleth, Lancashire, England John Robinson - Age: 33 Abode: Chapels Buried by: C Graham, Vicar Register: Burials 1813 - 1838 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 71, Entry 565 Source: LDS Film 1040307
and the 1838 one (coniston also ulverston district)
Burial: 22 Nov 1838 St Andrew, Coniston, Lancashire, England John Robinson - Age: 7 mth Abode: Forge Buried by: J W Harden Register: Bishops Transcripts Burials 1813 - 1859, Page 36, Entry 287 Source: LDS Film 1040311
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Angela
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8 Dec 2010 22:01 |
Hi Ozibird I Understand ts difficult as its a common name. From the informaton given Ive plotted the famiy from 1851until 1891 Do you have acess to 1911 census. Ive got Thomasborn 1829 married to Eleanor Taylor in 1891 they Have Thomas, Henry, Margaret Eleanor , Edith as the children living in 37 Raglan Street Barrow . Regards Angela
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Ozibird
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8 Dec 2010 20:57 |
See my idea of Sarah's birthplace in my last post. However I've found no marriage on IGI.
With John Robinson being a very common name it is difficult. It looks like James may be the last of his children by Sarah. Either or neither of the two deaths below could be John's death as it looks as if James was born 1836 or early 1837. Therefore James may have died before registration.
Deaths Sep 1837 ROBINSON John Ulverston 25 113 Deaths Dec 1838 ROBINSON John Ulverstone 25 127
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Angela
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8 Dec 2010 20:13 |
Hi Ozibird Can you tell me when Sarah and John Robinson got married and also when Joh n died ive been trying to find the marriage but cant go back further than 1837 . Regards Angela
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Ozibird
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8 Dec 2010 19:48 |
If you buy George Pearson Robinson's birth cert you'll get Sarah's maiden name. If you buy her marriage cert to George Pearson you should get her maiden name and her father's name & occupation.
Looking at Sarah's place of birth - 1851 - Hale, 1861 - Faile (widow & school mistress), 1871 - Halle (school mistress (mixed school) ), 1881 - Haile (formerly school teacher) I believe she was born in Haile which is only about 3 km from Beckermet.
Ozi
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Angela
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8 Dec 2010 18:35 |
Hi Ozibird Thank you for the information I was told that my gr grandfather was a railway worker from beckermet so the information you gave is correct thank so much regards Angela
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lancashireAnn
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7 Dec 2010 22:40 |
children?? especially the last one listed
Cumbria Birth indexes for the years: 1855 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference ROBINSON Robert Dalton Barrow ECCLESTON D/8/79 Cumbria Birth indexes for the years: 1858 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference ROBINSON Sarah Dalton Barrow D/10/141 Cumbria Birth indexes for the years: 1862 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference ROBINSON Thomas Dalton Barrow ECCLESTON D/13/418 Cumbria Birth indexes for the years: 1864 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference ROBINSON George Pearson Dalton Barrow ECCLESTON D/16/198
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Ozibird
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7 Dec 2010 22:38 |
IGI Individual Record THOMAS ROBINSON Christening: 11 MAY 1828 Saint Bridget Beckermet, Cumberland, England Parents: Father: JOHN ROBINSON Mother: SARAH Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: C043022 Dates: 1813 - 1870
???? EDIT: I'm not too sure about these so be careful. Results for: British Isles
Father: John Robinson, Mother: Sarah Exact Spelling: Off Batch Number: C007155 [refine search] [Print] Prepare selected records for download International Genealogical Index / British Isles - 2 Select records to download - (50 maximum) 1. WM. ROBINSON - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 20 MAR 1831 All Saints, Bolton Le Moors, Lancashire, England 2. ELLEN ROBINSON - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 19 JAN 1834 All Saints, Bolton Le Moors, Lancashire, England
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lancashireAnn
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7 Dec 2010 22:37 |
just to clarify - is this your Thomas and Margaret?
Marriage: 19 Jun 1855 St Mary, Dalton in Furness, Lancashire, England Thomas Robinson - full age Labourer Bachelor of Barrow Margaret Eccleston - full age Spinster of New Parkhouse Groom's Father: John Robinson, Labourer Bride's Father: Robert Eccleston, Miner Witness: George Kitchin; Eleanor Robinson Married by Banns by: Thomas P: Morgan, Off. Min. Register: Marriages 1855 - 1857 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 3, Entry 5 Source: LDS Film 1040305
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Ozibird
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7 Dec 2010 22:27 |
1841 England Census Name: Thomas Robinson Age: 73 Estimated birth year: abt 1768 [Abt 1828] Gender: Male Civil Parish: Kirkby Ireleth Hundred: Lonsdale (North of the Sands) County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Irelethfleet Chapels
Registration district: Ulverstone Sub-registration district: West Broughton Household Members: Name Age Sarah Robinson 36 - Independent Thomas Robinson 73 [13 on image] William Robinson 10 Ellena Robinson 8 Elisabeth Robinson 6 James Robinson 4 <<<<
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Ozibird
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7 Dec 2010 22:13 |
Looks like John died and Sarah remarried.
1851 England Census Name: George P Robinson Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1843 Relation: Son Father's name: George Pearson Mother's name: Sarah Pearson Gender: M (Male) Where born: Kirkby Ireleth, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Kirkby Ireleth County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Marshside
Occupation: scholar
Registration district: Ulverstone Sub-registration district: Dalton ED, institution, or vessel: 1b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 40 Household Members: Name Age George Pearson 50 - Lab at the slate works Sarah Pearson 46 James Robinson 13 - step son George P Robinson 8 Mary A Robinson 6 Jane Pearson 4 Henry Pearson 2
All children born Kirkby Ireleth. George & Mary Robinson look as if they might have been Pearson, but before the marriage, especially with George's middle name.
Marriages Jun 1845 Brookbank John Ulverstone 25 203 Johnson Isabella Ulverstone 25 203 Massicks Thomas Ulverstone 25 203 Muncaster Ferdinand Ulverstone 25 203 Newton Thomas Ulverstone 25 203 Park Mary Ulverstone 25 203 Pearson George Ulverstone 25 203 <<<<< Robinson Sarah Ulverstone 25 203 <<<<< Savage Ann Ulverston 25 203
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7 Dec 2010 22:08 |
So is this the son?
1871 England Census Name: Thomas Robinson Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1829 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Margaret Robinson Gender: Male Where born: Beckermont, Cumberland, England Civil Parish: Dalton Ecclesiastical parish: St Georges Town: Barrow County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 37 Raglan St
Occupation: Railway labourer
Registration district: Ulverston Sub-registration district: Dalton Household Members: Name Age Thomas Robinson 42 Margaret Robinson 40 Thomas Robinson 8 George P Robinson 26 - brother; unmarried; engine fireman; Kirkby Ireleth, Lancashire
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Angela
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7 Dec 2010 21:40 |
sorry Sara ive written the post wrong John Robinson and Sarah where thomas parents but I want t know if anyone can tell me about them and possibly John parents ? Sorry if Ive confus ed you
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Angela
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7 Dec 2010 21:35 |
hi Sara How did you find this ? Angela
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7 Dec 2010 21:23 |
Im trying to find the parents of Thomas Robinson 1808. I believe he married a Sarah. John and Sarah had a son Thomas born in Beckermet Cumberland 1829 I dont know if there where any other siblings ? Thomas then married Margaret ? they lived in Raglan St Barrow in Furness. Regards Angela
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