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Victoria

Victoria Report 8 Oct 2011 12:34

nudge

Victoria

Victoria Report 25 Jun 2011 20:18

I have him in 1881 lodging (the record you found). I know this is definately him as his death cert states here and Ellen was the informant. In 1861 is a record for a Jeremiah McCarthy fom Cork, a labourer and widowed living with a Margaret McCarthy, daughter. They are in St Margarets, Middlesex. That is the only records I can find from Cork or Ireland and a labourer. I really am at a loss??? Perhaps I could look for his wifes death (poss Mary) in that area?

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 23 Jun 2011 19:02

Well who is Jerry Living with...?

Victoria

Victoria Report 23 Jun 2011 15:03

There are no Jerry/Jeremiah living with a Mary in Brighton ??

Victoria

Victoria Report 23 Jun 2011 14:39

Im going though the 1851 now thank you x

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 23 Jun 2011 14:28

Victoria.....They are some of the McCarthy's in Brighton on the 1851 Census..You need to check them out...
Ellen would no doubt have been working and not living at home...she certainly would'nt be listed on a Mary McCarthy Death Cert as she was already married by then...would likely be Jerry...
Get a check of the 1851 Census first.

Victoria

Victoria Report 23 Jun 2011 13:36

Thank you, will look at those. The thing is I can't find a Mary and Jerry with a daughter anywhere in the cunsuses? The thing is I suppose she was old enough to be living apart from them. If I order the death certs I just need to keep fingers crossed that Ellen is named on it!

MCCARTHY Jeremiah 1801 Ireland Brighton, Saint Peter?s View
MCCARTHY Mary 1811 Ireland Brighton, Saint Peter?s View
MCCARTHY Mary 1843 Ireland Brighton, Saint Peter?s View
MCCARTHY Catharine 1845 Ireland Brighton, Saint Peter?s View

MCCARTHY Patrick 1821 Ireland Brighton, Saint Peter?s View
MCCARTHY Ellen 1823 Ireland Brighton, Saint Peter?s

You quoted these earlier? Are they marriages?
Thank you for all your help, your a star!

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 22 Jun 2011 22:45

Victoria...2 Possibilities


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Deaths Mar 1857 (>99%)
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McCarthy Mary Jane Brighton 2b 113

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Deaths Sep 1860 (>99%)
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McCARTHY Mary Ann Brighton 2b 109

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 22 Jun 2011 22:38

Victoria ...What you need to then is to get Mary's death Cert. which will give you her maiden name.....
I imagine she died in Brighton as the family dont seem to have moved from there.
Have you checked Free BDms for a Mary McCarthy Death....?
Check out the Census from 1851-1880 see when she does not appear with Jeremiah...That will give you a time frame to work with.

Victoria

Victoria Report 22 Jun 2011 19:43

Yes I found that record and believe that to be him.

Victoria

Victoria Report 22 Jun 2011 19:36

Thank you, im looking now x

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 22 Jun 2011 19:07

Have you checked this.....May well be Ellen's father....

ousehold Record 1881 British Census

Search results | Download Previous Household Next Household


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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Margaret MCCARTHY Head M Female 79 Ireland Lodging House Keeper
**Jerry MCCARTHY Boarder Lodger W Male 80 Ireland Hawker **
James MCGLOCKLIN Boarder Lodger W Male 52 Ireland General Labourer
Catherine DONOVAN Boarder Lodger W Female 50 London, London, Middlesex, England Charwoman
Nancy BRIAN Boarder Lodger U Female 19 Brighton, Sussex, England Dom Servant
Ann TIDYMAN Boarder Lodger W Female 48 Hastings Laundress
Tom HUSSLE Boarder Lodger U Male 23 Brighton Labourer
Jack SMITH Boarder Lodger U Male 31 Brighton Labourer
Mary JONES Boarder Lodger M Female 38 London, London, Middlesex, England
Charles JONES Boarder Lodger M Male 38 London, London, Middlesex, England Harness Maker
Jack PHILLIPS Boarder Lodger W Male 64 Brighton, Sussex, England General Labourer


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Source Information:
Dwelling 82 Egremont St
Census Place Brighton, Sussex, England
Family History Library Film 1341254
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1079 / 110
Page Number 13

Victoria

Victoria Report 22 Jun 2011 19:00

It states them living in Etchingham, no address. The witnesses were Levi Hayler and Mary Denis. They were married in Ticehurst.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 22 Jun 2011 18:57

Victoria...I suggest you check out these f1851...I dont have access or would do it for you.....

MCCARTHY Jeremiah 1801 Ireland Brighton, Saint Peter?s View
MCCARTHY Mary 1811 Ireland Brighton, Saint Peter?s View
MCCARTHY Mary 1843 Ireland Brighton, Saint Peter?s View
MCCARTHY Catharine 1845 Ireland Brighton, Saint Peter?s View

MCCARTHY Patrick 1821 Ireland Brighton, Saint Peter?s View
MCCARTHY Ellen 1823 Ireland Brighton, Saint Peter?s

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 22 Jun 2011 18:49

Victoria...Does it state on her MC where exactly she was living at the time of the marriage and who were the Witnesses ?

Victoria

Victoria Report 22 Jun 2011 18:38

Thank you for that. Will keep looking for a Jeremiah and Mary although I suspect very common names!! His occupation on her marriage cert is a labourer.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 22 Jun 2011 18:19

Victoria...Hers is Jeremiah 1881


Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Paola SCHCERI Other U Male 29 Malta Stoker
Thomas LLOYD Other U Male 22 Cheltenham, Gloucester, England Stoker
Edgar BROWN Other U Male 17 Wivenhoe, Essex, England Boy Writer
Jeremiah MOONE Other U Male 27 Etchingham, Sussex, England A B


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Source Information:
Vessel "H M S Asia"
Census Place Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Family History Library Film 1341281
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1149 / 61
Page Number 11

Given that John and Ellen appear to have followed Trad.naming patterns for the children and assuming there is none "missing" in the early years of the marriage I would be looking for a McCarthy couple Jeremiah and Mary.

What was Ellen's fathers Occup ...?

Victoria

Victoria Report 22 Jun 2011 17:23

I have his birth as 4 june 1854 etchingham. his parents were married there and lived there.

Joy

Joy Report 22 Jun 2011 17:13

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp

Jeremiah MOONE



Next step - send for birth certificate? :)
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl
Births Jun 1859
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Moon Jeremiah James Chorley 8e 412

Victoria

Victoria Report 22 Jun 2011 16:59

I cant find 'jerome' in 1881??