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Maybe the reason for the youngest children being in the workhouse in 1861............

Burial: 20 Jun 1858 St John, Preston, Lancashire, England
Ann McDuff -
Age: 40
Abode: Great Georges St
Buried by: J. Wilson


Would need to establish age of Agnes's mother to see if this is indeed her.
Ages may be on the marriage certificate of 1838

Wonder if William re-married

Name: William McDuff
Year of Registration: 1863
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Preston
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 609

Alice Cornthwaite or Jane Clitheroe

Misty x

unfortnately the marriage cert isnt much use for ages it just says they are both full age i guessing that means they where over 18. But great georges street does ring a bell so it does look like it could be her.

Williamand Ann's son William born 1842 married Alice Cornthwaite that is where i found the link with a member of genes. i thinking he might of re married to or he could of moved to scotland where is father was born i definately need to research him more

In 1838 "Full Age" would mean 21 or more. ( Mind you, some lied !!)

Have you found them on 1851 census? That should give their ages and birthplace.

yes i have them William is 35 and Ann 33 shows them has living in Burnley and says they are lodges with another family children chown are mary, william, john, robert and james.

full age 21 you learn somthing new everyday thankyou

Living in Burnley ? Was it Park Street ?

There is this entry on lancsOPC which I dismissed because it wasn't Preston.

Baptisms: 3 Mar 1851 St James, Burnley, Lancashire, England
William Macduff - Child of William Macduff & Ann
Abode: Park St
Baptised by: Henry Wray

Trouble is, they already have a son William, in fact they had 2 (first one died)

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1839
MCDUFF William- 0 -Preston Preston

Am now wondering if there are 2 families of William and Ann McDuff with a son William.

Now what about this.....a stab in the dark!!

Original does say America....But he is a Cabinet Maker, unmarried

Address....Henry Street

1871 England Census
William McDuff
Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: United States
Civil Parish: St Peter
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Ancoats
Ann Hennessey 51
John Green 60
Michael Green 14
William McDuff 55
Elizabeth Clark 4
John Kennedy 25
George Smith 26
Mary Dillon 30

Misty x

thanks Misty he definately is a mystery, maybe it worth me looking at the churh records where is wife is buried to see if she was buried alone or with others.

can anyone please help me find information about Alexander Mcduff born 1856 after he appears on the 1861 census in a workhouse in Preston thanks

If this is him, someone didn't know how old he was.
Dates are out but worth investigating

Deaths Mar 1934
McDuff Alexander - 86 - Preston 8e 685

thankyou Mike will do some investigating

I would guess that the Ages(s) shown in the workhouse is a different one as she was born in Scotland.

Alexander could have been in the workhouse with an infection as they were also used as hospitals. Preston Royal Infirmary was not built until 1868.

thanks lancashire Ann i think Alexanders mum died in 1858 and i cant find any record of William McDuff his father born 1816 London after the 1851 Census

there is possible 2 Alex Mcduff as in 1881 there is this one living in Preston but born Scotland

Sarah WORDEN Head W Female 69 Newton In Longedale, Lancashire, England Laundress
Sarah Ellen WORDEN Relative Female 15 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Cotton Weaver P L
Alexander MC DUFF Boarder U Male 23 Scotland Porter & Carter
William O. HARE Boarder U Male 21 Kirkham, Lancashire, England Cotton Spinner

Source Information:
Dwelling Gregson Lane
Census Place Walton Le Dale, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1342015
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4243 / 16
Page Number 26

in 1901 there is an alexander 1855 says chorley but cant access full transcript at the moment so cant see his occupation to see if his place of birth was put as Scotland by mistake of the head of the house maybe

1841 England Census
Civil Parish: Preston
Hundred: Amounderness
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: Warwick St
Registration district: Preston
Sub-registration district: Preston

Wm McDuff 26 Cabinet Maker J[=Journeyman]
Ann McDuff 23
Mary McDuff 1 Lancashire, England

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 499; Book: 8; Civil Parish: Preston; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 36; Folio: 16; Page: 28; Line: 10; GSU roll: 306888.



1851 England Census
Civil Parish: Burnley
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 6 Roke St
Registration district: Burnley
Sub-registration district: Burnley
ED, institution, or vessel: 6l
Household schedule number: 182

Betty Chadwick 72 Habergham Eaves, Lancashire, England Head Lodging House Keeper
Margaret Clark 31 Habergham Eaves, Lancashire, England Daughter Rover at Cotton Mill
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Elizabeth Clark 5 Habergham Eaves, Lancashire, England Granddaughter Scholar
Edward Clark 2 Runcorn, Cheshire, England Grandson
William Langshaw 51 Wigan, Lancashire, England Lodger U Reed Maker
William Howarth 21 Marsden, Lancashire, England Lodger U Collier
Anne Blew 30 Elmsforth, Yorkshire, England Lodger M N.R.[=not recorded?]
Sarah Blew 10 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Lodger U
James Blew 2 Elmsforth, Yorkshire, England Lodger U
William McDuff 35 London, Middlesex, England Lodger M Cabinet Maker
Anne McDuff 33 Carlisle, Cumberland, England Lodger M Rover Cotton ?llser
William McDuff 9 Preston, Lancashire, England Lodger U Scholar
Mary McDuff 12 Preston, Lancashire, England Lodger U Scholar
John McDuff 6 Preston, Lancashire, England Lodger Scholar
Robert McDuff 4 Preston, Lancashire, England Lodger
James McDuff 4MO Burnley, Lancashire, England Lodger
John Hogarth 15 Colne, Lancashire, England Lodger U Doffer at Cotton Mill

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2251; Folio: 516; Page: 52-53; GSU roll: 87273-87274.




1861 England Census
Civil Parish: Preston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Preston
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 188 North Road
Registration district: Preston
Sub-registration district: Preston
ED, institution, or vessel: 46
Household schedule number: 34

Richard Chippendale 28
Elizabeth Chippendale 25
Elizabeth Ann Chippendale 5
Peter Alexander Chippendale 2
Cornelius Chippendale 1 MO
Peter Cornthwaite 20
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Ellen Coupe 21 Preston, Lancashire, England Boarder U Cotton Weaver
Mary McDuff 20 Preston Boarder U Cotton Weaver

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3136; Folio: 90; Page: 7-8; GSU roll: 543085.


1861 England Census
Civil Parish: Walton Le Dale
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: Workhouse Union
Registration district: Preston
Sub-registration district: Walton le Dale
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 189

Alexd McAlester 38 Castlewillan, Ireland I;Master
...
Robt McDuff 16 Ashton, Lancashire, England Inmate Scholar
James McDuff 12 Ashton, Lancashire, England Inmate Scholar

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3141; Folio: 67; Page: 41; GSU roll: 543085.


1861 England Census
Civil Parish: Preston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Preston
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Preston
Sub-registration district: Preston
ED, institution, or vessel: Deepdale Road Workhouse Preston
Household schedule number: 1

John Holland 53 Preston, Lancashire, England Head M Master
...
Alexr McDuff 5 Preston, Lancashire, England Inmate Scholar

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3127; Folio: 85; Page: 4; GSU roll: 543083.

thankyou very much mgnv!!!!!! very much appreciated

Anyone have any ideas why the children where splt into differnt workhouses in 1861 Census????

Hi everyone i need some help finding some children of William McDuff 1816 and Ann farley 1818 as discussed above, i have recently been given some written memories of one of the grandchildren which states that they had 16 children but only 8 lived to be grown ups so far i have managed to find 10 of these children with my own research on lancashire bmd and of course the kind people on here, the children i have so far are
William 1839-1839 preston
Mary 1840-1920
Wiliam 1842-1918
John 1844-
robert 1847- 1903
James 1850-1869
Jane 1849
Agnes 1853- 1880
Alexander 1856-
Thomas 1858-1859
most of these where born in preston but the 1851 census shows them living in Burnley. In the memories it mentioned that she had some twins they she had to take to work with her in the mills, please can you help me find the missing children thankyou