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Have now received the marriage certificate. It states that William Evans Jnr's' father was deceased at the time of his marriage to Elizabeth Payne, so not a lot to go on really. So confusing because at the age of 2 William Jnr was a Nurse Child in the William & Sarah Evans family and then he later he was a son????

Do you think the next step is locatiing William Evans 1859 birth certificate but unsure which one he is as one census says he was born in Hindon, Wilts (transcribed as Hendon) I've really been searching honest! Yet others say Warminster. Does anybody have any ideas where I should begin please?

Thank you in advance of any help given.

I stand rebuked!

I wouldn't delete either one now that they both have information on.
Just don't do it again ( slaps wrist) !!

Hi Mike thank you for the tip I had mostly placed this information like you said I was concerned that 'my butterfly' brain may have confused people and was merely trying to standardise my search, but point taken. Problem is I'm unsure how to delete a thread?

Christine

Some of this research is duplicated on your other thread.
Would have been a better idea to carry on with this one than start a new one asking for info on "Captain Evans"

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/trying_to_find/evans/thread/1257980

Aah - are you thinking he hadn't actually died - he ran off with another woman?

Marie: Could this be the infamous father of my grandfather???

There is this Evans family living in the street in 1911

29 EVANS, William George Head Married M 73 1838 Lodging House Keeper Somerset Bath VIEW
29 EVANS, Emily Wife Married 52 years F 72 1839 Gloster Bristol VIEW
29 EVANS, Louisa Grace Daughter Single F 51 1860 Somerset Bath VIEW
29 EVANS, Selina Elizabeth Daughter Single F 46 1865 Somerset Bath VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
14718 Reference:
RG14PN14718 RG78PN893 RD316 SD4 ED16 SN29

Registration District:
Bath Sub District:
Walcot Enumeration District:
16 Parish:
Bath

Address:
30 Brock St Bath County:
Somersetshire

Thank you Marie. I can confirm from conversation history that William Evans Jnr was the child of his father's wife's sister. Perhaps I should search for a sister of Sarah's? Does anyone have any other suggestions please?

Christine

Hi Christine, because it's a fairly common name the only way to be sure which was William 1813's death would be to order all of them!

I'm not sure what the death certificate is going to prove re: William 1859's parentage?

It's not unusual on a marriage certificate for someone illegitimate to put their father's name and occupation as being the same as their own (rather than leave it blank).

Another scenario could be that William 1813 was his biological father by another woman who then dumped him on the family.

It'll be interesting to see what other helpers think ...

Thank you for the advice Marie:
I have found the following: All within the county of Bath which
Lyncombe & Widcombe Municipal Borough: Bath I would assume comes under.

William Evans: (Price) June 1854 5c 456
William Evans: June 1857 5c 444
William Evans: June 1860 5c 506

Marriage Certificate 31/7/1881 of William Evans Jnr and Elizabeth Payne reveals that William's father is William Evans ( Carpenter) deceased.

Unsure of the next step, but would welcome some more advice, its good to know exactly where to find free information.
Many Thanks

Hi Christine, have a look on FreeBMD - http://www.freebmd.org.uk and see if you can find any likely deaths. Then we can review what you've found.

Do you have any info to add from the marriage certificate?

Could you please search William Evans Snr death please last recorded in 1851 as follows:

EVANS, William Head Married M 38 1813 Carpenter (Journeyman) Walcot Somerset
EVANS, Sarah Wife Married F 39 1812 Hendon Wiltshire
EVANS, Emily Daughter F 12 1839 Scholar Bristol Gloucestershire
EVANS, Louisa Daughter F 10 1841 Scholar Bristol Gloucestershire
EVANS, Selina Daughter F 8 1843 Scholar Bristol Gloucestershire
EVANS, Elizabeth Daughter F 4 1847 Bristol Gloucestershire
EVANS, Anna Daughter F 0 (4 MOS) 1851 Lincombe Somerset Widcombe

Registration District: Bath Sub District: Lyncombe and Widcombe
Enumeration District: 1L Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish: Lyncombe & Widcombe Municipal Borough: Bath

Address: 2, Greenfields Buildings, Lyncombe & Widcombe, Bath County: Somersetshire

I certainly will come back to you. I do hope it will be helpful as I didn't realise mother's name wouldn't be on it as I'm not certain about a birth certificate for William as its not clear cut at the moment. However, I started a new thread on James Jay to see where this leads me in the meantime.

I'm hooked too!

Christine, the marriage certificate doesn't usually give the mother's name but it should give the father's name and occupation (if the father is known).

It's also useful on the certificate to see who the witnesses were, that can sometimes give useful clues.

Do come back on here as soon as you get the certificate - I'm hooked!

Thanks again Ann-Marie I've ordered a copy of the marriage certificate of William and Elizabeth this should confirm the mother and hopefully the father?
I have really appreciated all your hard work on this.

Thank you again

Christine

Christine, to be honest - I'm now hard pushed to say which one may be the mother!

Louisa could be a middle name in favour of an aunt, but ......

I think it may be worth getting a copy of the 1859 birth certificate.

Ann-Marie, this maybe a long shot but William eventually marries Elizabeth (who was born in Warminster) and has a daughter Wilhermina Louisa Evans she was my Aunt and John Harold William Evans (my father). Is the reason Wilhermina has been given a middle name of Louisa????

Thank you so much Ann-Marie I fully understand please don't put yourself under pressure! Its certainly looking promising isn't it, the link William being born in Warminster?? Thanks again this is very appreciated.

I've got to go now, but will keep at this!

In 1871 there's a James Jay, married but with out his wife (could she be Louisa visiting her family):

JAY, James Head M 26 1845 Wiltshire

Occupation is solicitor, born Sutton Veney?

Registration District: Warminster Sub District: Warminster Enumeration District: 12

Civil Parish: Warminster *******

Look where he lives!

Address: Boreham Road, Warminster
County: Wiltshire