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Can you please do a look u to establish when William Evans Snr died he was last noted in 1851 Census with the family.

Thank you, your help would be appreciated.

Christine

Hi what is his date of birth as there are a few

Thankyou will go look for you now

Thank you so much.

Hi
1861 census

Name William Evans
Age 2
Estimated Year of Birth 1859
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Address 5, Avon Street
District Clifton, St Philip & Jacob
Parish St Philip and St Jacob
Administrative County Gloucestershire
Birth Place ...
Birth County
in house
evan evans head 27 ( coal miner )
martha evans wife 60
william evans son 2
RG 9 / 1737


think it might be 30 for martha but it says 60 on census

Was right about marthas age here is the family in 1871 census

1871 census

Name Evan Evans
Age 37
Estimated Year of Birth 1834
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation
Address Chancery Street
District Clifton, St Philip & Jacob
Parish St Philip & Jacob
Administrative County Gloucestershire
Birth Place Cardiganshire
Birth County Cardiganshire
in house
evan head 37
martha wife 40
william son 12
jessie mariah daughter 9
daniel son 3
florance alice daughter 7 months
RG 10 2564

Thank you Polly. This has taken a different lead and I'm still unsure. I suspect I will have to try and obtain his birth certificate. I have at date of his marriage to my grandmother Elizabeth Payne on 31/07/1881 at Clifton St Phillip & Jacob and the date of his death 18/10/1936.

Its the connection of Clifton St Phillips & Jacob seems to much of a coincidence, is this person in the 1861 Census my grandfather?

Christine

Would some kind soul please help me? As I have my grandparents marriage date etc won't this provide the names of their parents this may give me a lead to establish his parentage or am I going about this the wrong way please?

Thank you in advance.

Christine

Hello Christine, because it's a fairly common name you need to order a copy of his marriage certificate to get his father's details. That will help you trace him more accurately in the census.

You can order the certificate online from GRO - http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ They cost £9.25

The references you need are here (from FreeBMD):

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1881
EVANS William Bristol 6a 72
PAYNE Elizabeth Bristol 6a 72

That is very helpful, thank you Marie this is much appreciated.

Christine

Thank you for the information. Would it be possible if someone could look up the full details of the 1861 Census if there is a full list of the household and the address please? Thank you

William Evans dob abt 1859 London, Wiltshire, England Nurse Child Lyncombe and Widcombe Somerset

Christine

That 1861 - note birthplace is actually Endon:

EVANS, Sarah Head Widow F 47 1814 Greengrocer Endon Wiltshire
EVANS, Elizabeth Daughter F 14 1847 Scholar Bristol Gloucestershire
EVANS, Hannah M Daughter F 10 1851 Scholar Bath Somerset
EVANS, William Nursechild M 2 1859 Endon Wiltshire
BRITTEN, Eliza Visitor Unmarried F 33 1828 Domestic Servant Bath Somerset
CAREY, Ann Boarder Unmarried F 25 1836 Laundress Bath Somerset

Registration District: Bath Sub District: 4 Lyncombe
Enumeration District: 4 Ecclesiastical Parish: Widcombe

Civil Parish: Lyncombe & Widcombe Municipal Borough: Bath

Address: 8, Widcombe Parade, Lyncombe & Widcombe, Bath County: Somersetshire

Same William at the same address in 1871. This time relationship given as grandson:

EVANS, Sarah Head F 58 1813 Wiltshire ** Greengrocer
JAY, Louisa Daughter F 30 1841 Gloucestershire
LEWIS, Selina Daughter F 27 1844 Gloucestershire
EVANS, Anna Daughter F 20 1851 Somerset
>>EVANS, Willie Grandson M 12 1859 Wiltshire
LEWIS, Margarat Granddaughter F 2 1869 Middlesex

In 1881 he's living with Selina (who is now Mrs Goad) and family:

GOAD, Robert Head Married M 30 1851 Greengrocer Ermington Devon
GOAD, Selina Wife Married F 33 1848 Bristol Gloucestershire
LEWIS, Margaret Step Daughter Single F 12 1869 Scholar London Middlesex
GOAD, Frederick W Son Single M 7 1874 Scholar Twerton Somerset
EVANS, William Boarder Single M 22 1859 Cabinet Maker Warminster Wiltshire

Registration District: Bath Sub District: Lansdown

Civil Parish: Bath Walcot

Address: 36, Kingsmead St, Bath Walcot
County: Somersetshire

Note how Selina has lopped a few years off her age since 1871 - probably to close the gap with her husband (wasn't the done thing to have toyboys back then!). Could Selina be William's mum?

Christine - do you know what your William's occupation was?

In 1891 he's still a cabinetmaker and now married to an Elizabeth!

EVANS, William Head Married M 32 1859 Cabinet Maker Warminster Wiltshire
EVANS, Elizabeth Wife Married F 35 1856 Warminster Wiltshire
EVANS, Louisa J Daughter F 4 1887 Bristol
JAYNE, John Boarder Single M 22 1869 French Polisher Bath Somersetshire

Registration District: Barton Regis Sub District: St Philip & St Jacob
Enumeration District: 15 Ecclesiastical Parish: Holy Trinity

Civil Parish: St Philip & St Jacob Out Municipal Borough: Bristol

Address: 38, Goodhind Street, St Philip & St Jacob Out, Bristol County: Gloucestershire

And finally in 1911:

EVANS, William Head Married M 52 1859 Cabinet Maker Wilts Warminster
EVANS, Elizabeth Wife Married 31 years F 55 1856 Domestic Wilts Crockerton
EVANS, Wilhemina L Daughter Single F 24 1887 Domestic Glos Bristol
EVANS, John Harold Williams Son Single M 16 1895 Machinist Glos Bristol
CROSSLEY, Jim Boarder Married M 51 1860 Engineer Yorks Liversedge
BARRETT, John Boarder Single M 39 1872 Packing Care Maker Dublin Ireland

Registration District: Bristol Sub District: Bristol Central Enumeration District: 20 Parish: Bristol

Address: 105 Clarence Road Redcliffe Bristol
County: Gloucestershire

** Original says they had 2 children living, 1 had died.

I have a feeling that Louisa in 1891 and Wilhelmina L may be one and the same.

Marie with your information which is absolutely brilliant I believe may have uncovered 5 years of hitting a brick wall. I have ordered my grandparents marriage certificate to confirm. Indeed Louisa and Wilhelmina is the same she is my aunt!

Well done and thank you so much

Christine

You're very welcome Christine.

Please come back and let us know the outcome.

Thank you Anne-Marie I certainly will and in answer to your Q indeed William Evans was a Cabinet Maker I have the family photograph to confirm this.

Kind Regards

Christine

I believe Selina Lewis to be my grandfather's mother. Could
I please ask for help locating her in 1861 please?
As I am unable to access the 1861 Census