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19 Nov 2010 11:42 |
I wonder how may of the assorted others over the census were Margaret's children?
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19 Nov 2010 11:35 |
That looks good Aileen! So that is probably her father James that she is living with in 1841.
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19 Nov 2010 11:33 |
IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0 KATHARINE RUTHERFORD Pedigree Birth: Christening: 14 NOV 1833 Rattray, Perth, Scotland Parents: Mother: MARGARET RUTHERFORD Family
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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19 Nov 2010 11:30 |
Death for Margaret Rutherford
1885 RUTHERFORD MARGARET F 64 ST CLEMENT DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS
Margaret Rutherford (Farm Servant) SINGLE....died 08/02/1885 at Bell Street, Dundee....parents given as James (Farm Servant) and Jean Rutherford (not sure of maiden name) ......cert witnessed by Jessie Garland (daughter)
Age is a bit out though......she would have been over 70
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19 Nov 2010 11:25 |
This looks like Margaret in 1841 (note there is also a Helen Jack in the household, the niece living with her in 1851?). On this census too, it looks like her daughter Catherine's surname is Addison. Could Janet Duff actually be Jessie Cliff later Garland?
Piece: SCT1841/282 Place: Dundee -Angus Enumeration District: 52 Civil Parish: Dundee Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 52 Page: 18 Address: Smith Court
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks RUTHERFORD James M 65 Labourer Outside Census County (1841) RUTHERFORD Margret F 30 Outside Census County (1841) RUTHERFORD Christian F 22 Outside Census County (1841) RUTHERFORD John M 20 Iron Funder Appr Outside Census County (1841) RUTHERFORD Janet F 18 Lint Spiner Outside Census County (1841) RUTHERFORD David M 16 Outside Census County (1841) ADDISON Catherine F 8 Outside Census County (1841) JACK Helen F 6 Outside Census County (1841) DUFF Janet F 2 Outside Census County (1841)
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19 Nov 2010 11:13 |
1861
Name: Margaret Rutherford Age: 53 Estimated birth year: abt 1808 Relationship: Head Gender: Female Where born: Korgandeeny, Perth Registration Number: 282/2 Registration district: Dundee Second District Civil Parish: Dundee County: Angus Address: 128 Overgate ED: 6 Household schedule number: 60 Line: 14 Roll: CSSCT1861_40 Household Members: Name Age Margaret Rutherford 53 Catherine Adamson 21 Arthur Grassie 10 Elizabeth Brown 56 Catherine Fraser 23 John Cowie 3 David Robertson 6 Mary Cowie 45 Thomas Robertson 49
Although there is no relationship given for Arthur, I wonder if he was Margaret's son and his father the Samuel Grassie who was living at the same address on the 1851 census?
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19 Nov 2010 11:08 |
1881 Census
Name: Margaret Rutherford Age: 73 Estimated birth year: abt 1808 Relationship: Head Gender: Female Where born: Forgandenny, Perthshire Registration Number: 282/3 Registration district: St Clement Civil Parish: Dundee County: Angus Address: Rattrays Entry Occupation: Sack Sewer ED: 12 Household schedule number: 374 Line: 8 Roll: cssct1881_84 Household Members: Name Age Margaret Rutherford 73 Catherine Edison 48 Daughter William H Garland 16 Grandson, Millworker Ann McIntyre 35 Boarder
So it would appear that Jessie's mother is Margaret rather than Jean?
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19 Nov 2010 10:58 |
1851
Name: Janet Cliff Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Relationship: Daughter Mother's name: Margret Rutherford Gender: Female Where born: Blair Gowrie, Perthshire Parish Number: 282 Civil Parish: Dundee Town: Dundee County: Angus Address: 7 Barrons Court Occupation: Millworker Spinner ED: 79 Page: 19 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 84 Line: 20 Roll: CSSCT1851_63 Household Members: Name Age Margret Rutherford 43 b. 1808, Leone, Perthshire Cathrine Eardson 18 daughter, b. Blairgowrie Janet Cliff 12 Helen Jack 14 Niece, b. Blairgowrie Rachel Elder 24 Lodger Jess Nairn 2 Lodger Cathrine Clark 20 Lodger Samuel Grassie 51 Lodger
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19 Nov 2010 10:54 |
Marriage for Williamina
1927 ROSS ALEXANDER GARLAND WILLIAMINA ROBE ST CLEMENT DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS
No father's name given for Williamina
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19 Nov 2010 10:53 |
1861
Name: Jessie Cleff Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1840 Relationship: Boarder Gender: Female Where born: Blairgowrie, Perth Registration Number: 282/2 Registration district: Dundee Second District Civil Parish: Dundee Town: Dundee County: Angus Address: 3 Hunter St Occupation: Factory Worker ED: 19 Household schedule number: 152 Line: 18 Roll: CSSCT1861_41 Household Members: Name Age James Warden 29 Cathrine Warden 25 David Warden 5 Mary Warden 10 MO Jane Fury 20 Jessie Cleff 21
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19 Nov 2010 10:50 |
1885 GARLAND WILLIAM LEONARD SIDNEY ST MARY DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS
William Garland (Private no1178 Gordon Highlanders) age 20 (Rattray's Entry, Dundee) son of Alexander(General Labourer) and Jessie Garland ms Cliff married Sidney Leonard (Jute Spinner) aged 18 daughter of James(Cloth Lapper)(deceased) and Catherine Leonard ms Hutton on 28/02/1885
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19 Nov 2010 10:41 |
marriage for parents
Alexander Garland (Joiner journeyman) aged 20 son of Alexander (Flax Dresser) and Sophia Garland ms Tait (deceased) married Jessie Cliff (Mill Worker) aged 24 daughter of James (Flax Dresser)(deceased) and Jean Cliff ms Rutherford
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19 Nov 2010 10:22 |
Birth for Catherine
1879 GARLAND CATHERINE ANN A F ST CLEMENT DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS
Catherine Ann Addison Garland born 21/09/1879 at Rattray's Entry, Bell Street, Dundee parents given as Alexander (Hammerman) and Jessie Garland ms Cliff.
Parents marriage 13/05/1864 Dundee
1864 GARLAND ALEXANDER CLIFF JESSIE DUNDEE FIRST DISTRICT DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS
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19 Nov 2010 09:51 |
I feel sure that this is Jessie listed as Isa in 1881. The year and place of birth match. Look at Alexander's occupation.
Name: Alexander Garland Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Isa Garland Gender: Male Where born: Dandee, Forfarshire Registration Number: 282/3 Registration district: St Clement Civil Parish: Dundee County: Angus Address: Rattrays Entry Occupation: Street Porter ED: 12 Household schedule number: 373 Line: 3 Roll: cssct1881_84 Household Members: Name Age Alexander Garland 40 Isa Garland 40 Arthur Garland 8 John Garland 5 Catherine Garland 1
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19 Nov 2010 09:46 |
1901
This is the only Thomas and Margaret that I can see and although they are in Dundee, they just don't seem the correct people (assuming the relationships are wrong in the other 1901 census)
Name: Thomas Garland Age: 52 Estimated birth year: abt 1849 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Margaret Garland Gender: Male Where born: Edinburgh Registration Number: 282/1 Registration district: St Peter Civil Parish: Dundee County: Angus Address: 42 Scouringburn Occupation: General Laborer ED: 20 Household schedule number: 154 Line: 17 Roll: CSSCT1901_91 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Garland 52 Margaret Garland 47 b. Ireland Ellen Garland 11 John Rourk 40 George Glen 20
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19 Nov 2010 09:36 |
1871
Name: Jessie Garland Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1836 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : Alexander Garland Gender: Female Where born: Blair, Perthsh Registration Number: 282/2 Registration district: St Mary Civil Parish: Dundee Town: Dundee County: Angus Address: 130 Overgate ED: 3 Household schedule number: 104 Line: 11 Roll: CSSCT1871_50 Household Members: Name Age Alexander Garland 30 Jessie Garland 35 William Garland 6 Alexander Connacher 17
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19 Nov 2010 09:26 |
The address for Catherine on that 1901 census is the same address as Linda has given from the marriage certificate. The death that Aileen has found has the same parents as found on the census records. I wonder why she gave different parents on her marriage to Andrew.
Have you looked to see what became of Andrew Connelly please?
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19 Nov 2010 01:20 |
Birth for Williamina (Mina)
1908 GARLAND WILLIAMINA ROBE F ST MARY DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS
Williamina Robertson Garland or Connelly ....born 13/09/1908 daughter of Catherine Garland (Jute Spinner) wife of Andrew Connelly (General Labourer) who she declares is not the father of the child, and further, that she has neither seen nor had any personal communication with him for five years past.
No fathers name given
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19 Nov 2010 00:55 |
No records of any kind on Scotland'sPeople for Margaret Cluft
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19 Nov 2010 00:39 |
??? Death for Catherine...... the parents are not the same
1925 GARLAND CATHERINE ANN CONNELLY F 46 ST CLEMENT DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS
Catherine Ann Connelly (Jute Spinner) ...married to Andrew Connelly (Labourer)....died 21/09/1925 at King's Cross Hospital...usual address 5 Parker's Court, Dundee......parents given as Alexander (Labourer) and Jessie Garland ms Rutherford (both deceased) .....cert is witnessed by Mina Garland (daughter) 37 Gellatly Street
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