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Rosalinda

Rosalinda Report 13 Sep 2011 19:39

Thanks Rootgatherer. Williamina Garland is my husband's aunt. He never knew of her existance and I'm trying to find out about her and if she had any children. Would Scotlands people be able to tell me this?

They would have been born after 1927 as they married then. If I can find these details on scotlandspeople site, I'll register again with them. Thanks

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 Sep 2011 11:29

1901 - all children born Dundee

Name: Alexander Ross
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Alexander Ross
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Ross
Gender: Male
Where born: Dundee, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 282/3
Registration district: St Clement
Civil parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 30 Hilltown
Occupation: Millworker
ED: 13
Household schedule number: 135
Line: 12
Roll: CSSCT1901_97
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Ross 43 Labourer, b. Dundee, Forfarshire
Mary Ann Ross 39 b. Inverness, Invernesshire
Catherine Ross 18
Alexander Ross 15
Mary Ann Ross 12
John Ross 10
William Ross 8
Bella Ross 5
Nellie Ross 2
Agnes Colville 18 Boarder
Nellie Soppet 48 Boarder

Source Citation: Parish: Dundee; ED: 13; Page: 24; Line: 12; Roll: CSSCT1901_97; Year: 1901

1881

Name: Mary Ann Ross
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Alxandr Ross
Gender: Female
Where born: Inverness, Inverness
Registration Number: 282/3
Registration district: St Clement
Civil parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 54 Hilltown
Occupation: Winder
ED: 13
Household schedule number: 233
Line: 15
Roll: cssct1881_84
Household Members: Name Age
Alxandr Ross 25
Mary Ann Ross 20
David Ross 2
Alxander Ross 4 Mos
Cathe Dingwall 50 Visitor, b. Inverness

Source Citation: Parish: Dundee; ED: 13; Page: 40; Line: 15; Roll: cssct1881_84; Year: 1881

1871?

Name: Mary Ann Dingwall
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relationship: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Invss, Invssshire
Registration Number: 98
Registration district: Inverness
Civil parish: Inverness
County: Invernessshire
Address: 1 Wrights Lane
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 10
Household schedule number: 49
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1871_17
Household Members: Name Age
Catherine Dingwall 40
Mary Ann Dingwall 10

Source Citation: Parish: Inverness; ED: 10; Page: 8; Line: 3; Roll: CSSCT1871_17; Year: 1871

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 Sep 2011 11:10

Alexander was aged 19 and his parents were Alexander Ross. Dock labourer (deceased) and Isabella Ross maiden surname Scott (deceased)

This looks like their marriage

1906 ROSS ALEXANDER SCOTT ISABELLA SYMING ST CLEMENT DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS 282/03 0126

Alexander Ross, aged 21, son of Alexander Ross Dock Labourer (deceased) and Mary Ann Ross maiden surname Dingwall (deceased)

Isabella Symington Scott, aged 21 years daughter of James Scott, Marine Stoker (deceased) and Isabella Scott maiden surname Symington (deceased)

You really need to buy some credits for Scotlandspeople as that is the only way to view these - there is no free access to these records.

Rosalinda

Rosalinda Report 11 Sep 2011 10:18

Hello again

I am looking for the names of the parents of Alexander Ross. He married Williamina Garland:
1927 ROSS ALEXANDER GARLAND WILLIAMINA ROBE ST CLEMENT DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS

Please could someone look up this marriage to see if it shows his parenst names. Thanks

Rosalinda

Rosalinda Report 8 Apr 2011 18:12

Thanks rootgatherer, i will this

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 8 Apr 2011 12:21

Had a look on Ancestry for possible service records of William. The problem is we don't know if he enlisted as Stewart or McGregor but it may be worth checking this one out to see if it is your William?

Name: William McGregor
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Age at enlistment: 29
Residence: 27 Patons Lane, Dundee
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 3772
Regiment Name: A & SH
Number of images: 14


This one married Ella Barry Parker in Dundee on 3rd October 1913 and there is one son listed - William Parker born 9 November 1914.

If you look up the marriage on Scotlandspeople you will get his parents names.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 8 Apr 2011 12:05

Linda, there are no subscriptions available for that census. You need to buy credits for Scotlandspeople and search there.

Rosalinda

Rosalinda Report 7 Apr 2011 20:57

Hello, I wonder if anyone can check the scottish 1911 census for me please. I am looking for William McGregor born Blairgowrie 1885. He married early 1900's and had a son and a daughter. That's all I know. He may have been living in Dundee. Thanks

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 6 Dec 2010 21:24

Linda, you can look here although it doesn't look hopeful!

https://beta.familysearch.org/

As Aileen has said, sometimes the date and place of marriege were ficticious.

Rosalinda

Rosalinda Report 6 Dec 2010 18:32

How do I get a copy of the marriage cert then? Please could you advise on which website to use for irish marriage certs. Thanks

Aileen

Aileen Report 6 Dec 2010 18:24

That would be correct.....if they were being truthful....some unmarried people give fictious date and place of marriage.

Rosalinda

Rosalinda Report 6 Dec 2010 17:49

Birth cert shows: David Dickie McGregor born 31/10/1929 dad William McGregor labourer address 208 seagate dundee mum jane mcgregor MS Thompson 1928 July 23rd fewry ireland. I'm not sure of the initial letter of fewry-it could be any other letter.

Does this mean they got married in Ireland?

Rosalinda

Rosalinda Report 23 Nov 2010 21:13

Rootgatherer, where did you find the birth for David? I have been looking for it for a while.

Rosalinda

Rosalinda Report 23 Nov 2010 21:12

Thanks. No I didn't know about RCE. I will look out for it.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Nov 2010 20:40

Any one of these two will do. It is not uncommon for a birth to be registered in the registration district of the hospital that he was born in and also the registration district where the Mum lived.

1 1929 MCGREGOR DAVID DICKIE M ST CLEMENT DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS 282/02 1062 No Image
2 1929 MCGREGOR DAVID DICKIE M ST ANDREW (DUNDEE) DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS 282/03 1034 No Image


Just wondering Linda, if when you were looking up some of the other births, did you check the entry to see if it had an RCE (Register of Corrected Entries) attached. Often in the case of illegitimacy, the mother went to court to prove paternity. Sometimes this shows not only the father's name but also gives an address.

Rosalinda

Rosalinda Report 23 Nov 2010 19:52

I would like to trace David Dickie McGregors birth. He was born in Scotland probably in Dundee or nearby. He died in May 1938 aged 8. Please could someone check if this birth is registered and the ref number so that I can send away for his birth cert. Thanks

Rosalinda

Rosalinda Report 20 Nov 2010 16:00

Was William Robertson not mary stewart's brother or should they have written commom law husband?

I don't have don't have davids birth only his death cert which shows william general labourer and jane mcgregor ns thomson he died in royal infirmary address 208 seagate dundee. he died 13/5/1938 aged 8.janes has signed her name as jane mcregor. but she was called mary jane. orn in 1930 but i don't know the date.

Thanks

Aileen

Aileen Report 20 Nov 2010 13:29

Sorry
1907 was Mary McGregor Stewart Robertsons death....cert gives her parents as Peter and Catherine McGregor ms McLeish and is witnessed by Jessie Garland (daughter).
I haven't as yet found any marriage for William. I'm fairly sure he didn't marry Catherine. Do you have David's birth cert?....if he married David's mother date and place of marriage should be on it

Rosalinda

Rosalinda Report 20 Nov 2010 10:15

Thanks Aileen. Please could you tell me why it shows 1907. What happened that year?

I have been looking for William McGregor but he has been on the census as Stewart. William married at the turn of the century but I don't know the date or who to. He joined the scots fusilers and fought in the 1st ww and later ww2 in the RAF. So we thought of sending for his army records to see if it gives any details.

Although we know that those childrren weren't James Stewarts they may not have the same dad as each other!

Aileen

Aileen Report 20 Nov 2010 09:01

Info was from Scotland'sPeople.

I can't find a marriage for Mary and William Robertson.

Catherine Edison/ Addison was Jessie's sister or half sister and Arthur Grassie/Gracey was her half brother.