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19 Nov 2010 11:13 |
1861
Name: Margaret Rutherford Age: 53 Estimated birth year: abt 1808 Relationship: Head Gender: Female Where born: Korgandeeny, Perth Registration Number: 282/2 Registration district: Dundee Second District Civil Parish: Dundee County: Angus Address: 128 Overgate ED: 6 Household schedule number: 60 Line: 14 Roll: CSSCT1861_40 Household Members: Name Age Margaret Rutherford 53 Catherine Adamson 21 Arthur Grassie 10 Elizabeth Brown 56 Catherine Fraser 23 John Cowie 3 David Robertson 6 Mary Cowie 45 Thomas Robertson 49
Although there is no relationship given for Arthur, I wonder if he was Margaret's son and his father the Samuel Grassie who was living at the same address on the 1851 census?
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19 Nov 2010 11:25 |
This looks like Margaret in 1841 (note there is also a Helen Jack in the household, the niece living with her in 1851?). On this census too, it looks like her daughter Catherine's surname is Addison. Could Janet Duff actually be Jessie Cliff later Garland?
Piece: SCT1841/282 Place: Dundee -Angus Enumeration District: 52 Civil Parish: Dundee Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 52 Page: 18 Address: Smith Court
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks RUTHERFORD James M 65 Labourer Outside Census County (1841) RUTHERFORD Margret F 30 Outside Census County (1841) RUTHERFORD Christian F 22 Outside Census County (1841) RUTHERFORD John M 20 Iron Funder Appr Outside Census County (1841) RUTHERFORD Janet F 18 Lint Spiner Outside Census County (1841) RUTHERFORD David M 16 Outside Census County (1841) ADDISON Catherine F 8 Outside Census County (1841) JACK Helen F 6 Outside Census County (1841) DUFF Janet F 2 Outside Census County (1841)
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19 Nov 2010 11:30 |
Death for Margaret Rutherford
1885 RUTHERFORD MARGARET F 64 ST CLEMENT DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS
Margaret Rutherford (Farm Servant) SINGLE....died 08/02/1885 at Bell Street, Dundee....parents given as James (Farm Servant) and Jean Rutherford (not sure of maiden name) ......cert witnessed by Jessie Garland (daughter)
Age is a bit out though......she would have been over 70
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19 Nov 2010 11:33 |
IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0 KATHARINE RUTHERFORD Pedigree Birth: Christening: 14 NOV 1833 Rattray, Perth, Scotland Parents: Mother: MARGARET RUTHERFORD Family
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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19 Nov 2010 11:35 |
That looks good Aileen! So that is probably her father James that she is living with in 1841.
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19 Nov 2010 11:42 |
I wonder how may of the assorted others over the census were Margaret's children?
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19 Nov 2010 11:42 |
Aileen, could the maiden name for Jean be Smeaton?
IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0 MARGARET RUTHERFORD Pedigree Female Event(s): Birth: 01 JUL 1808 Christening: 10 JUL 1808 Forgandenny, Perth, Scotland Parents: Father: JAMES RUTHERFORD Family Mother: JEAN SMEATON
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19 Nov 2010 11:45 |
Aileen - if my tree is anything to go by, there could be a few! I have one who had 7 children with 4 different fathers and she never married any of them - although the fathers were all free to marry and so was she.
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19 Nov 2010 11:46 |
Father: James Rutherford Mother: Jean Smeaton
International Genealogical Index / British Isles - 5 Select records to download - (50 maximum) 1. MARY RUTHERFORD - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 17 MAR 1816 Scone, Perth, Scotland 2. CHRISTIAN RUTHERFORD - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 11 JUN 1818 Scone, Perth, Scotland 3. ALEXANDER RUTHERFORD - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 11 DEC 1814 Scone, Perth, Scotland 4. MARGARET RUTHERFORD - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 01 JUL 1808 5. MARGARET RUTHERFORD - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 10 JUL 1808 Forgandenny, Perth, Scotland
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19 Nov 2010 11:54 |
Mother's maiden name would have been Smeaton......I just couldn't be sure all I could make out was the S and the n
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19 Nov 2010 12:13 |
To complete the set 1861 census
Name: Marget Rutherford Age: 65 Estimated birth year: abt 1806 Relationship: Head Gender: Female Where born: Forgandenny, Perth Registration Number: 282/2 Registration district: St Mary Civil Parish: Dundee Town: Dundee County: Angus Address: 130 Overgate Occupation: Lope Teazer ED: 3 Household schedule number: 105 Line: 14 Roll: CSSCT1871_50 Household Members: Name Age Marget Rutherford 65 Catharine Rutherford 38 Arthur Rutherford 19 James Connacher 20 Ann Connacher 25
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19 Nov 2010 12:35 |
Well done Aileen! And there is Catherine and Arthur now Rutherfords!
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19 Nov 2010 12:37 |
Death for Catherine
1888 RUTHERFORD CATHERINE F 51 ST MARY DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS
No father's name given.....cert witnessed by Jessie Garland (sister)
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19 Nov 2010 12:56 |
? Arthur 1901 census
Name: Arthur Rutherford Age: 45 Estimated birth year: abt 1856 Relationship: Head Gender: Male Where born: Dundee, Forfar Registration Number: 644/12 Registration district: Gorbals Civil Parish: Glasgow Gorbals County: Lanarkshire Address: 9 Muirhead St Occupation: French Polisher ED: 51 Household schedule number: 192 Line: 10 Roll: CSSCT1901_316 Household Members: Name Age Arthur Rutherford 45 Lizzie Rennie 29 Joseph Gracey Rutherford 9 Mth
Gracey...?Grassie
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19 Nov 2010 13:04 |
Birth for Joseph on above census
1901 GRACEY JOSEPH M HUTCHESONTOWN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/11 0640
parents Arthur Gracey and Elizabeth Rennie
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19 Nov 2010 13:07 |
Death for Arthur
1925 GRACEY ARTHUR RUTHERFO M 70 HUTCHESONTOWN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK
Arthur Rutherford Gracey (French Polisher) married to 1) Ann Docherty 2) Elizabeth Rennie died 30/03/1925.....parents given as Samuel (Horse Dealer) and Margaret Gracey ms Rutherford .....cert witnessed by E Gracey (Widow)
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19 Nov 2010 13:17 |
1891 census
Name: Arthur Gracey Age: 39 Estimated birth year: abt 1852 Relationship: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Dundee, Forfarshire Registration Number: 644/11 Registration district: Hutchesontown Civil Parish: Glasgow Govan County: Lanarkshire Address: 53 Commercial Rd Occupation: French Polisher ED: 46 Household schedule number: 81 Line: 3 Roll: CSSCT1891_287 Household Members: Name Age John Greenfell 26 Catherine Greenfell 23 John Greenfeld 3 Agnes Greenfeld 7 Months Arthur Gracey 39 Arthur Gracey 6
death for Arthur jnr
1923 GRACEY ARTHUR M 39 DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK
Arthur Gracey (French polisher journeyman) Single died 08/12/1923 parents Arthur and Ann Gracey ms Docherty......cert witnessed by Arthur Gracey (father)
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19 Nov 2010 15:10 |
William McGregors family appear to be even more confusing
1907 STEWART MARY MCGREGOR ROBERTSON F 60 ST ANDREW (DUNDEE) DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS
William's mother Mary McGregor married to 1) James Stewart 2) William Robertson
William has a miriad of siblings
1871 census
Name: Mary Stewart Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : James Stewart Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 344 Registration district: Dowally Civil Parish: Dowally County: Perthshire Address: Balnacuich ED: 3 Household schedule number: 6 Line: 22 Roll: CSSCT1871_62 Household Members: Name Age James Stewart 40 Mary Stewart 30 Margaret Stewart 6 John Stewart 4 Clementina Stewart 1
1881 census
Name: Mary Stewart Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1845 Relationship: Sister Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Lanark Registration Number: 272 Registration district: Arbroath Civil Parish: Arbroath County: Angus Address: 11 St Thomas Street ED: 13 Household schedule number: 126 Line: 23 Roll: cssct1881_76 Household Members: Name Age William Robertson 32 Mary Stewart 36 Margaret Stewart 16 Clemintina Stewart 11 James Stewart 8 Euphemia Stewart 5
1891
Name: Mary Stewart Age: 44 Estimated birth year: abt 1847 Relationship: Wid (Widow) Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow Registration Number: 389 Registration district: Rattray Civil Parish: Rattray County: Perthshire Address: Balmoral Rd 10 Westfields Terr Occupation: House Keeper ED: 4 Household schedule number: 100 Line: 4 Roll: CSSCT1891_120 Household Members: Name Age Mary Stewart 44 Clemintina Stewart 21 Euphemima Stewart 15 Charlotte Stewart 9 Anna Bell Stewart 7 William Stewart 5 Robert Stewart 2 William James Stewart 4 M.....grandson Margret Kenndy 26.......daughter Neil Kenndy 1 M.......grandson Marget Harrison 17
1901
Name: Mary Robertson Age: 52 Estimated birth year: abt 1849 Relationship: Head Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 282/2 Registration district: St Mary Civil Parish: Dundee County: Angus Address: 7 North Lindsay St ED: 5 Household schedule number: 96 Line: 7 Roll: CSSCT1901_93 Household Members: Name Age Mary Robertson 52 Charlotte Stewart 19 Annabella Stewart 17 William Stewart 15 Robert Stewart 12 William James Stewart 10.....grandson Thomas Stewart 4.......grandson Williamina Mathewson 2......grandaughter Margaret K Robertson 1mon.......grandaughter John Cassidy 33 Rose A Stewart 18 Peter David 16
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19 Nov 2010 16:26 |
Both Euphemia b 1875 and Charlotte b1881 Rattray are illegitimate and have the surname McGregor or Stewart.
James appears to have died in 1873 so none of the children after this are his but may be William Robertson's
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19 Nov 2010 16:30 |
Mary McGregor Stewart Robertsons parents are given on death cert as Peter and Catherine McGregor ms McLeish
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