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**Ann**

**Ann** Report 10 Nov 2010 22:07

Cumbria Record Office and Local Studies Library, Barrow, 140 Duke Street, Barrow-in-Furness, Cumbria LA14 1XW. Holdings include: Births register (1866-1948); Deaths register (1866-1916); Punishments register (1874-1923); etc


Above are the records held for Ulverston workhouse, as you can see...births fall correctly for Agnes.........maybe she was born there??

I went through workhouse records for my area and gained a wealth of info from them, however the above holdings are quite small in comparison, but def worth asking re Agnes, as it may have details of her mother and her circumstances which led to her being taken in.

If this uis your Agnes we have found! lol

Annx

Mike *

Mike * Report 10 Nov 2010 21:54

So it is Catherine.
Sorry didn't recognise it in that format.

Catherine

Catherine Report 10 Nov 2010 21:51

1871 is already on the other page!

Mark

Mark Report 10 Nov 2010 21:50

Thanks Catherine ......

Catherine

Catherine Report 10 Nov 2010 21:49

Wonder if this is Mary in 1861?
Name: Mary Ann Pickthall
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Urswick, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Urswick
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: Housemaid

Registration district: Ulverston
Sub-registration district: Dalton
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 45
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Smith 30
Henry Gorden Smith 7 MO
Ellen Cook 42
Jane Brockelbank 32
Mary Ann Fuke 28
Mary Ann Pickthall 16
John Dixon 24
Thomas Woodend 26

Mike *

Mike * Report 10 Nov 2010 21:45

In 1881 she is a boarder so not with parents.
Try the 1871 census, she would only be a baby.

EDIT.
Andrew to the rescue.
Cheers

Andrew

Andrew Report 10 Nov 2010 21:43

Possible 1871 census, in workhouse

1871 England Census
about Agnes J Pickthall
Name: Agnes J Pickthall
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation: Pauper
Gender: Female
Where born: Ulverston, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Ulverston
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Ulverston
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Ulverston
Sub-registration district: Ulverston
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 221
Household Members: Name Age

Mary Pickthall 28
Agnes J Pickthall 1

Large list of names removed

Andy


**Ann**

**Ann** Report 10 Nov 2010 21:43

Have not posted all the above census as it is huge, looks like the 1881 posted maybe the same Agnes as this 1871 census. The nearest birth is the 1870 date..........so not too far out.....which often happens on death certs and grave inscriptions......depending on who the informant was.

Annx

Mark

Mark Report 10 Nov 2010 21:43

Ann - this is very interesting many thanks i will research later when i can confirm i am on the right track..... Thanks

Mark

Mark Report 10 Nov 2010 21:42

Many thanks all, I will order relevant certificates so i can work out if Agnes has any sibblings who may have living descendants .. ;)

**Ann**

**Ann** Report 10 Nov 2010 21:40

??????????????


1871 census - household transcription
Person: PICKTHALL, Agnes J
Address: Gill Union Workhouse, Ulverston

Cost:
You will be charged 5 credits for a transcript and 5 credits for an image, unless you have purchased a subscription for this set of records.


census search results 1871 address search redefine current search
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

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AMES, Ben G Head M 38 1833 Devon VIEW
CLIFFORD, Sarah M Matron F 37 1834 Leicestershire VIEW
PROBERT, Charles E Officer M 21 1850 Staffordshire VIEW
TROUGHTON, Jane Officer F 23 1848 Lancashire VIEW
GOULDEN, Jane Officer F 45 1826 Lancashire VIEW
TYSON, Robert Officer M 48 1823 Lancashire VIEW
GREGG, Thomas Officer M 59 1812 Isle of Man VIEW
PICKTHALL, Mary Pauper F 28 1843 Lancashire VIEW
PICKTHALL, Agnes J Pauper F 1 1870 Lancashire VIEW

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Nov 2010 21:39

Mark, you should be able to find her in the 1891 and 1881 census if you widen the birth year range. Those records seem to have her birth as 1870/1

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 10 Nov 2010 21:39

name First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1901 (>99%)
PICTHALL Agnes Jane Ormskirk 8b 1522
TENNANT Samuel Ormskirk 8b 1522

Catherine

Catherine Report 10 Nov 2010 21:39

1881?

Name: Agnes Jane Picthall
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Urswick, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Urswick
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: Mid Town

Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Ulverston
Sub-registration district: Dalton
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Slater 66
Mary Slater 56
William Slater 28
Joseph Slater 18
Esther Slater 14
Agnes Jane Picthall 11


1871?
Name: Agnes J Pickthall
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation: Pauper
Gender: Female
Where born: Ulverston, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Ulverston
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Ulverston
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Ulverston
Sub-registration district: Ulverston
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 221
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Gregg 59
Mary Pickthall 28 - Domestic Servant born: Sunbrick, Lancashire
Agnes J Pickthall 1

Mary is noted as Unmarried!

..........plus all the other occupants of the workhouse

Mark

Mark Report 10 Nov 2010 21:38

Thanks for your help......

Catherine

Catherine Report 10 Nov 2010 21:37

for info:-

Marriages Sep 1901 (>99%)
Hartley William Cottom Ormskirk 8b 1522
xxxx PICTHALL Agnes Jane Ormskirk 8b 1522
xxxx TENNANT Samuel Ormskirk 8b 1522
WHITEHEAD Leah Malvina Ormskirk 8b 1522
The district Ormskirk is in the county of Lancashire

Mike *

Mike * Report 10 Nov 2010 21:36

Was the marriage in 1901 her first?
or was Picthall her maiden name.

There are no entries for 1868 in that name.

This is the nearest

Births Mar 1870
Picthall Agnes Jane - Ulverston 8e 717

But you would need to confirm that she was a spinster on that marriage certificate to Samuel Tennant.

Andrew

Andrew Report 10 Nov 2010 21:35

Birth

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Mar 1870 (>99%)
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Picthall Agnes Jane Ulverston 8e 717


Andy

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 10 Nov 2010 21:35

Is this them in 1911? If so, looks like they didn't have children together.

TENNANT, Samuel Head Married M 43 1868 Boot Maker Lancs Lancaster VIEW
TENNANT, Agnes Jane Wife Married
10 years F 42 1869 Lancs Ulverston VIEW
TENNANT, Edward William Son Single M 19 1892 Boot Repairer Lancs Lpool VIEW
TENNANT, Samuel Son Single M 17 1894 Boot Repairer Lancs Lpool VIEW
TENNANT, John Son Single M 16 1895 House Joiner's Apprentice Lancs Southport VIEW
TENNANT, John Son Single M 15 1896 Engineer's Apprentice Lancs Lpool VIEW
TENNANT, Florence Daughter F 12 1899 School Lancs Southport VIEW

**Ann**

**Ann** Report 10 Nov 2010 21:34

The marriage for ref: Middle name J


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1901 (>99%)
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Hartley William Cottom Ormskirk 8b 1522
PICTHALL Agnes Jane Ormskirk 8b 1522
TENNANT Samuel Ormskirk 8b 1522
WHITEHEAD Leah Malvina Ormskirk 8b 1522