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Thanks everyone

Rootgatherer funnily enough I had a look on there last night and will be buying some credits to look, I think that Archibald's parents are James and Margaret McLuckie (but will check his marriage details first) as there are also some census records for them too.

Wish I could find my own Campbells on there so easily !

jan

Thanks too Alison, no it gets written all sorts of ways !

1841 (From Freecen)

Piece: SCT1841/475 Place: Campsie -Stirlingshire Enumeration District: 6
Civil Parish: Campsie Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Campsie
Folio: 0 Page: 27
Address: Cottage Row



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Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MCLUCKIE James M 34 Wright Outside Census County (1841)
MCLUCKIE Margaret F 34 Stirlingshire
MCLUCKIE John M 13 Stirlingshire
MCLUCKIE Lucy F 4 Stirlingshire
MCLUCKIE James M 2 Stirlingshire
MCLUCKIE Archibald M 1m Stirlingshire


1851 (From Freecen)

Piece: SCT1851/475 Place: Campsie -Stirlingshire Enumeration District: 5
Civil Parish: Campsie Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Campsie
Folio: 0 Page: 16 Schedule: 57
Address: Crosshill Street



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Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MCLUCKIE James Head M M 44 Millwright Dunbartonshire - Kilpatrick
MCLUCKIE Margaret Wife M F 44 Stirlingshire - Campsie
MCLUCKIE Lucia Dau U F 14 Printwork Dyer Stirlingshire - Campsie
MCLUCKIE James Son U M 12 Printwork Dryer Stirlingshire - Campsie
MCLUCKIE Archibald Son U M 10 Scholar Stirlingshire - Campsie
MCLUCKIE Adam Son U M 8 Scholar Stirlingshire - Campsie
MCLUCKIE Sophia Dau U F 4 Stirlingshire - Campsie


1861 (From Ancestry.co.uk)

Name: Archibald Mcluckie
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relationship: Son
Father's name: James Mcluckie
Mother's name: Margaret Mcluckie
Gender: Male
Where born: Campsie, Stirlingshire
Registration Number: 475
Registration district: Campsie
Civil Parish: Campsie
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Stevenson's Land Crosshill St
Occupation: To Calco Pr
ED: 7
Household schedule number: 142
Line: 12
Roll: CSSCT1861_63
Household Members: Name Age
James Mcluckie 54
Margaret Mcluckie 54
Archibald Mcluckie 19
Sophia Mcluckie 14
Agnes Mcluckie 9
Elizabeth Leggat 28



If James and Margaret remained in Scotland then their death certificates from Scotlandspeople will give their parents' names including mothers' maiden surname (if the informant knew).

James's brothers Adam and John in 1841?

Piece: SCT1841/475 Place: Campsie -Stirlingshire Enumeration District: 9
Civil Parish: Campsie Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Campsie
Folio: 0 Page: 9
Address: Main Street



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Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MCLUCKIE Adam M 36 Calico Printer Journeyman Outside Census County (1841)
MCLUCKIE Agnes F 37 Stirlingshire
MCLUCKIE John M 13 Stirlingshire
MCLUCKIE Mary F 10 Stirlingshire
MCLUCKIE George M 8 Stirlingshire
MCLUCKIE Adam M 4 Stirlingshire
MCLUCKIE Sophia F 6 Stirlingshire
MCLUCKIE William M 2 Stirlingshire
MCLUCKIE Helen M 6m Stirlingshire
MCLUCKIE John M 38 Server Journeyman Outside Census County (1841)
MCLUCKIE Christiana F 6 Outside Census County (1841



Marriages and christenings for some of the above available here

https://beta.familysearch.org/

My you have been busy whilst I have been at work.!!

I bought the image off Scotlands People for Archie McLuckie and Sarah Jane Eckley's marriage her parents George and Mary Eckley (nee Astley) as prevoiusly mentioned

and his James LcLuckie and Margaret McLuckie (nee Graham)

That's great Janet! James and Margaret's marriage is on the beta.familysearch site. The christenings for the children are there but I don't see Archibald b. 1840 but there is one born earlier so he must have died.

If you are looking for deaths for James and Margaret, look for Margaret's first as you can use both surnames to search. Her death certificate should say if she was "married to" or "widow of" and that will narrow death dates for James. Good luck.

Narrowed a bit by fact that archie's marriage cert says his father is deceased so died before 1869 (although I know that's not always the case)

Margaret McLuckie's death record says mmn also Graham.........

how do i deal with that one !

she died 19/12/1876

Hi Janet - have a look on that beta site again, I had actually suspected that Margaret's mother's maiden name would be Graham! Not as uncommon as you may think! First cousins often married. What were her parents' names please?

James Graham and Margaret Graham (ms Graham)

is that what it says ms?

James' profession was a farmer

Hi rootgatherer are you there?

so I am to look for a marriage between a james Graham and a Margaret Graham.?

James Mcluckie 1807 married Margaret Graham 1807 27/10/1827 in Campsie Stirlingshire.

Maryb

What I meant was, that when the said margaret mcluckie (nee Graham) died in 1876 it said her father was James Graham and her mothers maiden name was also Graham so I am looking for her parents a marriage between two Grahams?

From the information on the death certificate - yes. you are looking for a Graham - Graham marriage.

Graham is a fairly common surname in the Falkirk / Stirlingshire area so it is quite likely that a Graham would marry a Graham.


??? From the IGI

JAMES GRAHAM Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: MARGARET GRAHAM Family
Marriage: 06 JUN 1798 Stirling, Stirling, Scotland

Husband Age at Marriage: 25
Wife Age at Marriage: 21

Sorry, I should have said that was a submitted record.

ok many thanks I will check that out

Jan

On this thread there is mention of a marriage between Alice Eckley and a Willliam P Peridy, no trace can be found in the name of Peridy after that date.

The marriage is Dec quarter 1872 Manchester Cathedral

Could it be that this William Peridy is in fact the William Peters who appears on the 1891 census with wife Alice and could there be an error in the bmd list for this marriage ?

This same family appear on 1901 census in West Derby Lancs (minus William) but with same children I noticed that one is called Hypatia which is a pretty unusual name and how I found them.

Janet - ms=maiden surname

Thanks I have purchased the image of the Graham/Graham marriage from Scotland's People and almost the entire page is for soldiers

James Graham Corporal 1st battallion Royal & Margaret Graham in this parish.

any ideas on the query about Alice and William?

Hi Janet It looks like the same family to me.
Don't know where william was in 1901 but Alice is still down as married.

It looks as though William Peter Peridy just dropped his last name.
Peridy may also have been mistranscribed as I can't find anything on him and there is no original view for marriage record.

In 1881 he is William Peter house painter.Born Scotland.Also with them is Sarah McCluche 1845 sister in law so thats another clue that it is the same William Peter Peridy.

1911 20,Redbourn Street Anfield Liverpool
George william Rowson 1883 Ships cook
Mary Rowson 1884
Hypatia Carey married born 1886 sister in law she married George F Carey in 1910.
William Peters 1892 single brother in law ships steward.

Maryb