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Richard Bate OLFORD - Died on HMS HERMIONE 1903

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 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 9 Feb 2011 18:59

HMS Pelorus
Displacement (loaded)

2,135t

Top Speed

18.5kts natural draft
20kts forced draft

Armour – deck

1.5in-2in

- gunshields

0.25in

- conning tower

3in

Length

313ft 6in

Armaments

Eight 4in quick firing guns
Eight 3pdr quick firing guns
Three machine guns
Two 18in above water torpedo tubes

Crew complement

224

Launched

15 December 1896

Completed

1897

Captains

Commander E. Stevenson (1915)

Sold for break up

1920


http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_HMS_Pelorus.html

Pete

Pete Report 9 Feb 2011 19:25

Have you bought his record of seaman's service from the National Archive?

Description Name Olford, Richard Bate
Official Number: 120539
Date of Birth: 03 August 1866
Place of Birth: Fowey, Cornwall

Date 03 August 1866

Potty

Potty Report 9 Feb 2011 20:42

Did he join the army after he left the Navy?

There is one record coming up on findmypast for a Richard Alford in the Boer War records. Maybe someone with a subscription could look it up for you.

Edit: the findmypast record has the same Regimental Number as you give above (20539) - regiment Army Service Corps

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 9 Feb 2011 21:13

His Royal Navy record is here, in the Registers of Seamans services - you can download it for £3-50. Not sure whether you've seen this as you mention his number and one of the ships he was on.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/navy.asp

Sally

Sally Report 10 Feb 2011 11:39

THANK YOU

Lindsey, Pete, Potty and Annielaurie !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lots of info, i will check it all out, i thought his date of birth was August so thats good.

What lovely people you are !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Regards
Sally

Sally

Sally Report 11 Feb 2011 15:59

NUDGE

Potty

Potty Report 11 Feb 2011 16:21

This document from the National Archives has info about Naval deaths - they are not online and a search will cost £30:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documents/ifa_m8_royal_navy_ratings_1835-1945.pdf

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 11 Feb 2011 16:29

Well thats a good result well done.

Sally

Sally Report 11 Feb 2011 16:30

Thanks Potty,
I am getting there a bit at a time - sometimes i am not really sure how i get some info !!!!!! I seem to put in a random name or topic and up it comes.
Sally

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 11 Feb 2011 17:21

There's a ships log at the National Archives for the Hermione for 1903.

Sally

Sally Report 11 Feb 2011 17:34

Thanks Annielaurie,
I am slowly getting round the records at Nat Archives, don't find them the easiest to work through - maybe i haven't used them enough.
I take it it was in Royal Navy section, i will have a look again.
Sally

Sally

Sally Report 11 Feb 2011 17:50

No can't find the ships log, even though i have the right section - it must be me.!!!!!!!!!

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 11 Feb 2011 18:00

Just use Hermione as the search term, nothing else.

Use ADM as the series to search.

Let me know if you don't find it!

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 11 Feb 2011 18:02

Oh, you do realise that that log won't be online? You'd have to go there, or get someone to go for you, to look at it.

Suzanne Leticia

Suzanne Leticia Report 11 Feb 2011 18:15

from Wiki... may find it interesting reading

HMS Hermione was an Astraea-class protected cruiser launched at Devonport in 1893. She served in World War I and was sold in 1921. She was renamed HMS Warspite in 1922, and broken up in 1940.

In 1896 the Hermione, commanded by Captain Charles R. Arbuthnot, was one of a squadron of six ships which was specially commissioned in reply to a congratulatory telegram from the German Emperor to President Paul Kruger on the repulse of Dr. Jameson's Raid. The squadron, known as the Particular Service Squadron, was commanded by Rear-Admiral Alfred Taylor Dale with his flag in Revenge.

In September 1910 she began preparations for use as a tender for the Royal Navy's first airship, but when this project was abandoned, she rejoined the Home Fleet in January 1912. In the meantime, she had hosted the first British seaplane experiments, with an Avro Type D in November 1911.

Suzanne Leticia

Suzanne Leticia Report 11 Feb 2011 18:25

Olford R B Petty Officer 1st Class QSA (0). Ref: 120.539.
Source: QSA medal rolls HMS Pelorus
found on http://www.angloboerwar.com/

Sally

Sally Report 11 Feb 2011 18:28

Thanks Suzanne,
That makes very interesting reading !!!!
I have spent too much time trying to find the Ships Log. !!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks Annielaurie,
I had better go and do some food now. !!!!
I still can't find it - probably something very basic, maybe i am too hungry !!!!
I will have a look later.

Sally

Suzanne Leticia

Suzanne Leticia Report 11 Feb 2011 18:35

if you go to that website i listed there and search his last name it will show u that .. he is further down the page.. the ship name is highlighted and you can click that and view all crew on board . i dont think it gives any other info for your particular relative.. good luck and happy hunting.. x

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 11 Feb 2011 18:43

The log is listed on the National Archives website - not documentsonline, so hope you haven't been searching that!

On the National Archives site, go to Search the Catalogue and put in the terms I said earlier.

Sally

Sally Report 12 Feb 2011 18:15

Hi Ann,
Thanks for the info, sorry i didn't get back to you, i have been out all day.
Will give it a go !!!!!!!!!
Regards
Sally