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30 Oct 2010 08:47 |
Omg I think you have found the bultitude part! my great aunt insists that the family name was a hyphenated one being bultitude-Adams but that as bultitude was German and Adams was Jewish, the bultitude part was dropped.
I think you've found when this happened. amazing!
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30 Oct 2010 07:59 |
Found Susan with George and James on the 1841 Census .. but they have been indexed individually!
I have sent in an alternative name change
1841 Census
Name: Susan Bultiterde <<<<< Bultitude on the image Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1816 Gender: Female Where born: Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Blundeston Hundred: Mutford and Lothingland County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Registration district: Mutford Sub-registration district: Lowestoft
Susan Bultiterde 25 Ag Lab George Bultiterde 6 b.ca 1835, Suffolk James Bultiterde 4 b.ca 1837, Suffolk
Address:- Blundeston North End
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30 Oct 2010 07:49 |
I wonder if this is Charles Brown, age 4 on that 1851 Census
It's from a Public Family Tree on ancestry. It says his father is William Bultitude (d. 1842), no name for mother. His siblings are shown as George Bultitude (1835 – ) and James Bultitude (1837 – ), and one of his children is called James Brown Bultittude
Charles William Bultitude Birth 18/5/1847 Blundeston Suffolk England
Death 6/5/1888 Sunderland, Durham, England
gawd this is a family and a half!!!!
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30 Oct 2010 06:35 |
????????? James in 1851????
1851 Census
Name: James Bultitude Age: 14 Estimated birth year: abt 1837 Relation: Son-in-Law Gender: Male Where born: Blundeston, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Blundeston County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Registration district: Mutford Sub-registration district: Kessingland James Brown 39 Susan Brown 37 George Bultitude 16 James Bultitude 14 Robert Jex 55 Charles Brown 4
?????? marriage of James Brown and Susan
Marriages Dec 1849 (>99%) Browne James Gt Yarmouth 13 959 Bultitude Susan Gt. Yarmouth 13 959
from beta.familysearch.org
record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973 groom's name: James Browne bride's name: Susan Bultitude marriage date: 1849 marriage place: St. Nicholas, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England groom's father's name: James Browne bride's father's name: John Bultitude indexing project (batch) number: M16315-5 system origin: England-VR source film number: 1526457
only a suggestion, may be /very possibly is, incorrect!!!
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30 Oct 2010 06:31 |
I couldn't find births for Susanna(h) nor William Edward under Adams, so I went looking for a William Edward birth (no surname)
I found the following one for William Edward Bultitude
Births Sep 1876 (>99%) BULTITUDE William Edward Yarmouth 4b 21
then I looked for Bultitude born 1873 +/ 10 years and found this 1881 Census
1881 Census
Name: James E. Bultitude Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1866 Relation: Son Father's name: James Bultitude Mother's name: Frances Bultitude Gender: Male Where born: Woolwich, Kent, England Civil Parish: Great Yarmouth County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Street address: Victoria Street Francis Buildings
Occupation: Porter Grocers Registration district: Yarmouth Sub-registration district: Yarmouth Northern
James Bultitude 43 b.ca 1838, Yarmouth, House Painter Frances Bultitude 37 b.ca 1844, Yarmouth Agnes Bultitude 17 b.ca 1864, Yarmouth James E. Bultitude 15 Mary A. Bultitude 11 b.ca 1870, Yarmouth, Scholar Susannah Bultitude 2 b.ca 1879, Yarmouth William Bultitude 5 b.ca 1876, Yarmouth, Scholar
Then I went looking for a marriage, and found this one ............... suspicious eh!
Marriages Dec 1859 (>99%) Boyce Frances Newstead Yarmouth 4b 5 Boyce Frances Newsted Yarmouth 4b 5 Bultitude James Adam Yarmouth 4b 5
Could Adam have been his middle name, and he just dropped his surname for some reason???????
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30 Oct 2010 06:00 |
don't whether this will be fo interest
marriage of Susanna Edith Adams, possibly the sister of James Edward, if that census is correct.
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Susanna Edith Adams Age: 18 Estimated birth year: abt 1878 Spouse Name: Robert Ernest Carrier Spouse Age: 21 Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 27 Jun 1896 Parish: St Nicholas, Plumstead County: Kent Borough: Greenwich Father Name: James Adams Spouse Father Name: Robert John Carrier
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Susanna Spinster Age 18 Address:- 36 Kashgar Rd no occupation shown Father:- deceased, Painter
Robert Bachelor Age 21 Address:- same as Susanna Occupation:- Brazier Father:- Sawyer
Witnesses:- William Edward Adams and Mary Ann Adams
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30 Oct 2010 05:47 |
????????? James Ernest in 1891
1891 Census
Name: James Ernest Adams Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1866 Relation: Son Mother's name: Francis Adams Gender: Male Where born: Charlton, Kent, England Civil Parish: Plumstead Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Woolwich Sub-registration district: Plumstead, East
Francis Adams 47 b.ca 1844, Great Yarmouth, Widow James Ernest Adams 25 Labourer Arsenal Factory William Edward 15 b.ca 1876, Great Yarmouth, Shop Assistant Susanna Edith Edward 12 b.ca 1879, Great Yarmouth James William Denger 66 Lodger, Retired R Navy
Address:- 68 Reidhann (?? spelling) Rd
William and Susanna should be William Edward Adams and Susanna Edith Adams .... it was a transcripiton error that omitted the Adams, and I've sent in the corrections.
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Ruth
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29 Oct 2010 22:07 |
Hiya, sorry I meant adams, not sure where that typo came from!
Francis, their daughter was Francis May Adams. I think a copy and paste went a bit wrong!
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29 Oct 2010 21:58 |
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Emma Emily Chater Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1870 Spouse Name: James Ernest Adams Spouse Age: 26 Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 21 Feb 1892 Parish: St Nicholas, Plumstead County: Kent Borough: Greenwich Father Name: Edward Chater Spouse Father Name: James Adams
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James Bachelor Age 26 Occupation:- Decorator Address:- 68 Reidhaven Road Father:- deceased. Painter
Emma Spinster Age:- 22 no occupation given Address:- as for James Father:- Labourer
Witnesses:- Alfred Walsh and Mary Ann Walsh
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29 Oct 2010 21:52 |
BUT this is the marriage as shown in freebmd.org.uk
Marriages Mar 1892 (>99%) Adams James Ernest Woolwich 1d 1205 Chater Emma Emily Woolwich 1d 1205 GILL William Emmanuel Woolwich 1d 1205 MOORE Emily Annie Woolwich 1d 1205
James Edward is called ADAMS, not May
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29 Oct 2010 21:49 |
so, to get this straight in my mind
was MAY her surname, and not a second forename??
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29 Oct 2010 21:36 |
1891 census - household transcription Person: CHATER, Emma Address: 79, Chrisp Street, Bromley DAVIS, Solomon Head Married M 28 1863 Manager Of Boot Shop Aldgate London VIEW DAVIS, Leah Wife Married F 27 1864 Aldgate London VIEW DAVIS, Dora Daughter Single F 6 1885 Scholar Brighton Sussex VIEW DAVIS, Bernard Son Single M 4 1887 Scholar Brighton Sussex VIEW DAVIS, Hyman S Son Single M 3 1888 Poplar London VIEW DAVIS, Walter Son Single M 1 1890 Poplar London VIEW CHATER, Emma Servant Single F 20 1871 Domestic Servant Limehouse London
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29 Oct 2010 21:35 |
1881 census - household transcription Person: CHATER, Emma E Address: 20, Dod St, Limehouse CHATER, Annie P Daughter Head Single F 12 1869 Scholar Poplar Middlesex VIEW CHATER, Emma E Daughter Single F 10 1871 Scholar Poplar Middlesex VIEW COMBER, Louisa House Keeper Married F 35 1846 House Keeper Lingfield Surrey
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Ruth
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28 Oct 2010 12:35 |
As an update to this
I have now found out that her father was James Ernest May (1867 woolwich) and her mother was Emma Emily Chater (26 Nov 1870, Poplar, London, England to 1956 Rutherglen Road Plumstead)
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Ruth
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24 Oct 2010 01:12 |
yes it was frances may thanks for the help
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23 Oct 2010 21:26 |
Found his service records on ancestry
British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
Name: Alfred John Samson Estimated birth year: abt 1889 Age at enlistment: 26 Residence: 29 Conway Rd, Plumstead Document Year: 1915 Regimental Number: 13130 Number of Images: 7
Wife:- Frances May Adams Married:- Tabernacle, Bereford Street, Woolwich, Octoner 31 1915 Address:- 29 Conway (??sp) Rd, Plumstead
Height:- 5' 3"
Attested 9-12-15 Posted 10-12-15
The Queen's Royal Fusiliers, Posted 3-5-16
Fusilier
Discharged:- 21-9-16 No Longer Fit for War Service
Address change to:- 8 Ashwood Road, Shepherds Farm, Eltham, Kent
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23 Oct 2010 21:12 |
so this is the marriage???
Marriages Dec 1915 (>99%) Adams Frances M Samson Woolwich 1d 3747 Samson Alfred J Adams Woolwich 1d 3747
Have you any idea what the M stands for?
and he's Alfred, not Albert!
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MargaretM
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23 Oct 2010 20:52 |
It's the same price for overseas, nothing extra added for postage. Please don't purchase certificates from anywhere other than GRO!
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Ruth
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23 Oct 2010 20:47 |
ancestry.co.uk
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MarieCeleste
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23 Oct 2010 17:09 |
Ruth - where are you paying £20?
Certificates cost £9.25 online from General Records Office (GRO) http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ and this includes UK postage. I'm not sure of the rates for overseas postage but still shouldn't be £20.
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