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Well Marian, if this is just for your tree, that link I sent you, to the discussion at Ancestry, should keep you going into your next decade!!

If you are hoping to contact some of your cousins or their kids, I hope that works out for you.

Someone at that grand reunion will be a technical whiz who can help you with it all.

And they will all appreciate your hard work on their family history even if they are too young to think so now. Be sure to tell them some stories!

Have a wonderful time!

Have a fab time

<3

THANKS TO YOU ALL FOR YOUR HELP AND FORBEARANCE I CAN NOW PUT MORE ON MY TREE BEFORE I LOSE NOTES ETC THIS WEEK IS MY 80TH BIRTHDAY AND MY LOVELY FAMILY HAVE PLANNED A GRAND REUNION AND CELEBRATION PARTY..MY HUSBAND IS TRYING SO HARD TO CONCEAL ALL THE SURPRISES THAT ARE IN STORE FOR ME BUT HE IS 84 IT WILL BE ESPECIALLY GOOD TO SEE OUR GREAT GRAND DAUGHTER WHO WAS BORN THIS YEAR WEIGHING ONLY 3 LBS SHE IS THRIVING WELL THOUGH LOVE TO ALL AND
CHRISTMAS GREETINGS TO ALL WHO HAVE HELPED ME ESPECIALLY JUST NOW AS I STRUGGLE TO KEEP GOING LOVE AND BLESSINGS TO ALL MARIAN
HUNT MEE CAMSEY <3 :-) :-) <3

Yes...I sent the info by PM, to Marian

The Norman Bradford and Sylvia Bailey couple Gins?

In fact someone posted a list of hundreds of names in a message at Ancestry showing all their children and grandchildren, with birthdates and spouses, and those of Sylvia's sister Dorothy.

The discussion in question was actually about a branch of the Farmborough family in the United States !

I thought that was the most appalling violation of privacy so I didn't link to it here

... but it did provide all those names so I could search further in Australia :-)

and unfortunately the only seemingly sure thing it led to was contact information for one grandchild ...

Maybe if you can see other possible contact information you would PM it to Marian?

I went bug-eyed over it last night ... and in fact whitepages Australia is now telling me it has detected unusual activity from my IP address and now I have to do a captcha and wait 5 minutes every time I do a search ...

:-D

I do really suggest though that Marian contact the person right here at genes reunited who has the Australian Bradford and Williamson families in their tree, unless it is someone she already knows, but in that case it means she already knows what we have been finding out ...

Maybe she does but just needs contact information and hopefully what I found will do that ... or you can suggest something more Gins ?

Marian ? :-)

trying not to be confusing but it can be difficult ...

Joonie,, I agree BUT

The children of the couple I posted may and indeed look to be available online, in various forms

I think the thing is at this point the historical information is not in question, we know who these people all are now, all are deceased except maybe Sylvia Bailey who married Norman Harry Bradford, and both Sylvia and Dorothy have children and grandchildren in Australia.

and I think it is already in the thread that Norman was the next passenger on the list to Australia after the Baileys and he married Sylvia.

In Marian's thread on the living people board I pointed out that the person who has the very large Ancestry-Mundia tree showing Sylvia and Dorothy also has a tree on this site.

The tree shows the descendants of the Bailey brothers Joseph (Sylvia and Dorothy) and William (Gordon and Joy in Marian's other thread) ... and Marian is the daughter of their sister Lydia.

with trees that large you can't tell how the person is related or whether they even know the living people in the tree

but it is worth a try.

Marian has read my messages, which included what I think is probably contact information for a granddaughter of Sylvia.


Now I did think, since they were Salvationists, maybe the Salvation Army in South Australia or Victoria would be an idea, to ask for help getting in touch with the children of Dorothy and Sylvia ?

I'm pretty sure that this is the marriage of Norman Harry' parents



Birmingham, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937


Name:Harry Bradford <<Woodworking machinist

Gender:Male

Birth Year:abt 1890

Marriage Date:21 Apr 1912

Marriage Age:22

Marriage Place:Hockley, All Saints, Warwickshire, England

Spouse:Janet Walker <<Chainmaker

Spouse Gender:Female

Spouse Marriage Age 21

Father:Samuel Bradford <<Woodworking machinist

Spouse's Father:Edward Walker <<Tool maker

Reference Number:DRO 39

Archive Roll:535



A link to OZ


UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960


Name:Harry Bradford (Machinist) & Janet Bradford & infant Winifred

Gender:Male

Age:23

Birth Date:abt 1890

Departure Date:20 Mar 1913

Port of Departure:Liverpool, England

Destination Port:Adelaide, Australia

Ship Name:Irishman

Search Ship Database:Search the 'Irishman' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

Shipping Line:White Star Line

Official Number:110511

Master:Thos Howell

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960


Name:Mr N H Bradford

Gender:Male

Age:24

Birth Date:abt 1926

Departure Date:17 Mar 1950

Port of Departure:Liverpool, England

Destination Port:Sydney, Australia

Ship Name:Cheshire


Shipping Line:Orient Line


Address in the UK: 23 Shipley Grove, Weoley Castle, Birmingham


Is this the same passage that the Edwards family travelled?

by looking for other information on line, I have found a telephone listing for a grandchild of Sylvia

I will look for more family listings and send them on to Marian now.

I have sent Marian a message with images of the family trees, I hope she will be able to see them.

Marian, just click on Messages up at the top to see it.

I also passed on the hint to make up for our faulty memories at this site ... click on My Threads :-)

(edited because I think the other information I mentioned was in the wrong place in Australia)

Cemetery Barrabool Hills (Highton)
Location HGH-LAWN-DI-808-106
Section Lawn
Row DI
Grave 106
Register # 214995
Surname Bailey
Given Names Gertrude Eva
Service Date 18 Jun 1993
Date of Birth
Date of Death 12 Jun 1993
Age 89 Y

http://mapping.gct.net.au/Mapping/Default.aspx

Chris :)

There are family trees at Mundia (Ancestry) that have the family and also have many photographs in them.

Four trees show Dorothy ... they show that she married and had two children, and grandchildren, but they do not show the husband's name.

No, I am mistaken, one of the trees shows his name, and he died in 2002.

Dorothy died in 2007.

They also show, for instance, Gertrude Farmborough who died in 1957, the same information as Gins gave above, and Dorothy's parents Joseph Bailey and Gertrude Eva Edwards.

And they show Sylvia's husband Norman Harry Bradford.

Norman's death notice was published in the Adelaide Advertiser in 2005, but there is no death notice for Sylvia, and the trees do not show her name, so Sylvia may be living.

Marian these links should work I hope.

http://www.mundia.com/Tree/Family/34529863/18679345078

http://www.mundia.com/Tree/Family/7091934/-18685182

http://www.mundia.com/Tree/Family/3217170/1516272350#

http://www.mundia.com/Tree/Family/16573998/18617433311

except ... I am pretty sure you have to be signed in to Mundia to see them.

It is free to register there and see trees and also to send messages.

But Marian, the very easiest thing might be for somebody to contact the people who own those trees, on your behalf, and ask them to get in touch with you.

Since I am already signed up at Mundia I could volunteer to do that.
(It could also be done through Ancestry I think.)

I could send your email address to the people who have those trees and ask them to write to you.

Or I am sure any of the people who have helped so much would be happy to do it, as well.

Marian, just click on my name and send me a message with your email address.

Or, if you are already in touch with someone else here who could do that, send it to them.

I am going to see whether I can save the pictures of Dorothy from the trees and send them to you!

Please let me know if I can help.

If someone could help on the OTHER thread, it would be brilliant

I rather think that one of the daughters mentioned in the first post on here was Marian's mother

If I'm wrong, I'm sure someone will let me know

Prickles.....this is the death you mention



Australia Death Index, 1787-1985


Name:Gertrude Edwards

Death Place:Geelong, Victoria

Age:78

Father's Name:Un Farmborough

Registration Year:1957

Registration Place:Victoria

Registration number:22006

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1879



Looks like the right one



Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%)

Bellwood Alice Paddington 1a 220
Edwards Albert Edward Paddington 1a 220
FARMBOROUGH Gertrude Paddington 1a 220
Lanahan James Paddington 1a 220

Possibly Gertude's mother.......

Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription
First Name: GERTRUDE
Last Name: EDWARDS
Year: 1956
Departure Month: 2
Departure Day: 15
Ship name: STRATHAIRD
Ship Departure Port: LONDON
Destination Port: MELBOURNE
State: Victoria Country: AUSTRALIA
Destination: MELBOURNE
Destination Place Country: AUSTRALIA
Gender: Female Marital Status: S
Occupation: HOUSEWIFE
Year Of Birth: 1879
Birth Month: 10
Birth Day: 15
Ship Master's Surname: ?
City: LONDON
Ship Destination Port: SYDNEY
Ship Destination Country: AUSTRALIA
Number Of Passengers: 0

According to tree's on Ancestry, she died 29th July 1957 in Geelong Hospital, Victoria, Australia.

Electoral roll for them:

Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Joseph Bailey
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1977
State: Victoria
District: Corio
Subdistrict: Geelong North

Living 8 McClelland Street with Gertrude Eva Bailey

Nice to see you back here Marian. Sorry to hear about your diagnosis but you seem to be coping very well. As long as you want to continue your research we'll be here to help.

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985


Name:Joseph Bailey

Death Place:Geelong, Victoria

Age:78

Father's Name:William

Mother's Name:Lydia

Registration Year:1985

Registration Place:Victoria

Registration number:11591

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1907


A tree at Ancestry gives Gertrude' death as 1993, Adelaide

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Gertrude Eva Edwards Name: Gertrude Eva Edwards
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1904
Registration District: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 112


Household transcription
1911 census

Person: EDWARDS, Gertrude
Address: 1 Denbigh Terrace Notting Hill W

EDWARDS, Albert Head Married 9 years M 30 1881 Plasterer St Johns Wood London VIEW
EDWARDS, Gertrude Wife F 31 1880 Paddington London VIEW
EDWARDS, Gertrude Daughter F 7 1904 School Kensington London VIEW
EDWARDS, Violet Daughter F 5 1906 School Kensington London VIEW
EDWARDS, Albert Son M 1 1910 Kensington London VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 143
Reference: RG14PN143 RG78PN5 RD2 SD2 ED4 SN54
Registration District: Kensington
Sub District: Kensington Central
Enumeration District: 4
Parish: Kensington
Address: 1 Denbigh Terrace Notting Hill W
County: London
(4 children born, 3 living, 1 had died)


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
about Albert Edward Edwards Name: Albert Edward Edwards
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1902
Registration District: Paddington
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 220
Records on Page: Name
Albert Edward Edwards
Gertrude Farmborough