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12 Oct 2010 13:26 |
Many thanks for that Potty...if the family is correct then Catherine aged abt 71 is living Consett Harvey St. ( ? Workhouse).
Waterson Catherine.W.71 years.b.Ireland....Rag collector.
There were a good few O'Neils (Charlie) and Brids (Waterson) living around the Easington Lane area...
This lot must be giving Sami an almighty headache..!!
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12 Oct 2010 13:13 |
Here you are, Erin:
1851 England Census about Owen Waterson Name: Owen Waterson Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1809 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Cathrine Waterson Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil parish: Wolsingham Town: Wolsingham County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Weardale Sub-registration district: St John ED, institution, or vessel: 1b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 110 Household Members: Name Age Owen Waterson 42 Riddle maker, b Ireland Cathrine Waterson 41 wife, b Ireland Margaret Waterson 18 hawker of small wares, b Ireland Thomas Waterson 12 b Yorkshire, NK Jane Waterson 8 b Cumberland, Lazonby Owen Waterson 6 b Cumberland, Kirk Clinton Mary Waterson 4 b Durham Bery? Edge Bridget Waterson 3 MO b Durham, Wolsingham.
It does look as if there were two Charles and Bridget O'Neills.
I think Samantha needs to get Susan's marriage cert. The address might give clue!
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12 Oct 2010 12:51 |
Potty Can you list the names of the Waterson's (1851) living next to the O'Niells..this is getting more confusing as we go along !! and I dont have 1851 Census to cross ref with.. Many Thanks...
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12 Oct 2010 11:59 |
1841 - this is a bit confusing as the "Mrs Charles O'Neill" is Charles O'Neill Junior on the image. These are all shown as one household:
1841 England Census about James Oneil Name: James Oneil Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1837 Gender: Male Where born: Durham, England Civil parish: Houghton Le Spring Hundred: Easington (North Division) County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Houghton le Spring Sub-registration district: Hetton le Hole Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Charles Oneil 65 Mrs Charles Oneil 20 Charles ONeill Jnr on image, Tinner Catherine Oneil 60 Bridget Oneil 20 Patrick Oneil 15 John Oneil 10 Richard Oneil 7 James Oneil 4
And Bridget and the boys as a separate household at same address:
1841 England Census about Bridget O Neil Name: Bridget O Neil Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1821 Gender: Female Where born: Ireland Civil parish: Houghton Le Spring Hundred: Easington (North Division) County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Houghton le Spring Sub-registration district: Hetton le Hole Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Bridget O Neil 20 James O Neil 2 not b in county Charles O Neil 1 MO
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12 Oct 2010 11:20 |
1851 - children's names are the same but ages are all out. They are living next door to the Waterson family:
1851 England Census about Bridget Oneill Name: Bridget Oneill Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1844 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Charles Oneill Mother's Name: Bridget Oneill Gender: Female Where born: Easington Lane, Durham, England Civil parish: Wolsingham Town: Wolsingham County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Weardale Sub-registration district: St John ED, institution, or vessel: 1b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 109 Household Members: Name Age Charles Oneill 48 - Hawker of small wares Bridget Oneill 36 Mary Dyer 19, daughter, married, B Ireland Patrick Oneill 15 b Durham, Marsden Dinnington Cathrine Oneill 10 b Durham, Rainton Bridget Oneill 7 bDurham, Easington Lane Charles Oneill 4 b Durham, Wingate Grange Rosanna Oneill 8 b Durham Black Gate Mary Oneill 95, Mother, widow, b Ireland Bridget Dyer 10 MO grand-daughter, b Durham, Black Gate EDIT
I think that is the wrong family - this one looks better for ages:
1851 England Census about James Oneal Name: James Oneal Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Relation: Grandson Father's Name: Charles Oneal Mother's Name: Bridget Oneal Gender: Male Where born: Ampleforth, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Hetton Le Hole Ecclesiastical parish: Hetton le Hole County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address: Easington Lane Registration district: Houghton Le Spring Sub-registration district: Houghton ED, institution, or vessel: 3c Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 230 Household Members: Name Age Charles Oneal 63 Head, Riddle maker, b Ireland Catherine Oneal 56 Wife, b Ireland Richard Oneal 18 Son, Riddle maker, b Ireland James Oneal 14 Son, Riddle maker, b Ireland Charles Oneal 33 Junior, son, Riddle maker, b Ireland Bridget Oneal 33 daugher in law, b Ireland James Oneal 12 grandson, b Ampleforth - differs from later census Chas Oneal 10 grandson, b Easington Lane Patrick Oneal 7 grandson, b Haswell Christopher Oneal 5 b Castlesides Catherine Oneal 4 b Easington Lane Bridget Oneal 2 b Castlesides
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12 Oct 2010 11:04 |
Looks like the family in 1861, although Susan/na's age is out - it is definitely 9 on the image but possibly mistranscribed by the enumerator?
1861 England Census about Charles Oneal Name: Charles Oneal Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1821 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Bridget Oneal Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil parish: Conside and Knitsley County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Durham Sub-registration district: Lanchester ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 135 Household Members: Name Age Charles Oneal 40 Bridget Oneal 40 James Oneal 21 Patk Oneal 17 Christop Oneal 15 Catherine Oneal 13 Bridget Oneal 11 Susannah Oneal 9 John Oneal 7 Thomas Oneal 5 Richard Oneal 1
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12 Oct 2010 10:53 |
This family is partly on the same page as Susan in 1871 - living next door but one:
1871 England Census about Bridget Oneill Name: Bridget Oneill Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1849 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Bridget Oneill Gender: Female Where born: Castleside, Durham, England Civil parish: Conside and Knitsley Ecclesiastical parish: Consett Town: Consett County/Island: Durham Country: England Registration district: Durham Sub-registration district: Lanchester ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 291 Household Members: Name Age Bridget Oneill 52 Head, married, b Ireland Catherine Oneill 24 b Easington Bridget Oneill 22 b Castleside John Oneill 18 b Castleside Thomas Oneill 16 b Consett Richard Oneill 11 b Consett
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11 Oct 2010 22:43 |
these are great, im just writing them all down to compare with xxx
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11 Oct 2010 18:37 |
!881 Census...Father Charles O'Neil mother Bridget..(possible parents Susan)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Charles O'NEIL Head M Male 63 Fermanagh, Ireland Tinman Bridget O'NEIL Wife M Female 62 Kildare, Ireland Tinners Wife John O'NEIL Son U Male 27 Castleside Tinman
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 12 Pitt Street Census Place Conside & Knitsley, Durham, England Family History Library Film 1342189 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4945 / 44 Page Number 81
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11 Oct 2010 17:18 |
This site (free) has more baptisms for the family. I have to log off now - hope this has all helped:
beta.familysearch.org/
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11 Oct 2010 17:11 |
Can't find Susan on the 1871 - her marriage cert will give her father's name.
This looks like the baptism of her daughter Agnes:
Agnes Kelly Gender Female Baptism/Christening Date 20 Mar 1881 Baptism/Christening Place Our Blessed Lady and St. Joseph, Broom, Durham, England Birth Date Birthplace Death Date Name Note Race Father's Name Michaelis Kelly Father's Birthplace Father's Age Mother's Name Susannah O'Neill Kelly Mother's Birthplace Mother's Age Indexing Project (Batch) Number I02915-2 System Origin England-EASy Source Film Number 2082485 Reference Number v 7 p 59
and there is this baptism at the same church - the marriage cert will confirm her father's name:
Name Susannah O'Neil Gender Female Baptism/Christening Date 26 Apr 1857 Baptism/Christening Place Our Blessed Lady and St. Joseph, Broom, Durham, England Birth Date Birthplace Death Date Name Note Race Father's Name Caroli O'Neil Father's Birthplace Father's Age Mother's Name Brigittae Waterson O'Neil Mother's Birthplace Mother's Age Indexing Project (Batch) Number I02915-0 System Origin England-EASy Source Film Number 2082485 Reference Number v 5 p 51
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11 Oct 2010 16:52 |
Given her place of birth in the 1891, Susan in 1871:
1871 England Census about Susanna Oneill Name: Susanna Oneill Age: 13 Estimated birth year: abt 1858 Relation: Sister Gender: Female Where born: Castleside, Durham, England Civil parish: Conside and Knitsley Ecclesiastical parish: Consett Town: Consett County/Island: Durham Country: England Registration district: Durham Sub-registration district: Lanchester ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 294 Household Members: Name Age Patrick Oneill 35 b Gouteland, Northumberland, England (Looks more like Ponteland to me) Susanna Oneill 13 Philip McCarroll 30 Rose Ann McCarroll 21 Bridget M McCarroll 1
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11 Oct 2010 16:45 |
Michael and Susan's marriage:
Marriages Jun 1874 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BENSON William Durham 10a 668 Hogan Martha Durham 10a 668 KELLEY Michael Durham 10a 668 O'Neill Susan Durham 10a 668
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11 Oct 2010 16:43 |
The O'Neill connection: 1881 England Census about Sarah Kelley Name: Sarah Kelley Age: 2 Estimated birth year: abt 1879 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Michal Kelley Mother's Name: Susan Kelley Gender: Female Where born: Gateshead, Durham, England Civil parish: Collierley County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address: Dipton Front St Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Lanchester Sub-registration district: Tanfield ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Michal Kelley 27 Susan Kelley 25 Mary Kelley 6 Susan Kelley 4 Sarah Kelley 2 Agnas Kelley Charles Oniel 34 Ann Oniel 35 Michal Oniel 9 Ann Oniel 6 Patrick Oniel 3
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11 Oct 2010 16:32 |
1891 - Susan is a widow and a hawker:
1891 England Census about Sarah Kelly Name: Sarah Kelly Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1881 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Susan Kelly Gender: Female Where born: Towlaw, Durham, England Civil parish: Collierly Ecclesiastical parish: Burnopfield Town: Hill Top County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Lanchester Sub-registration district: Tanfield ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Susan Kelly 34 b Durham Castleside Mary Kelly 16 b Durham Consett Susan Kelly 13 b Durham Crook Sarah Kelly 10 b Durham Hillside Agnes Kelly 8 b Durham Hillside Ellen Kelly 7 b Durham Hillside Michael Kelly 5 b Durham Hillside Annie Kelly 3 b Durham Hillside John Kelly 1 b Durham Hillside Rose Ann McArdle 20 - visitor
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11 Oct 2010 16:06 |
OK, found them:
1901 England Census about Sarah Quin Name: Sarah Quin Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1880 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Charles Quin Gender: Female Where born: Towlaw, Durham, England Civil parish: Bishop Auckland Ecclesiastical parish: Auckland St Andrew Town: Bishop Auckland County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Auckland Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 92 Household Members: Name Age Charles Quin 23 Sarah Quin 21 Charles Quin 1
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11 Oct 2010 16:02 |
Struggling to find Sarah and Charles in 1901 - did they have any children? If so, who, where and when?
Also, are there any address on the marriage cert for them and what is Charles's occupation?
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11 Oct 2010 15:18 |
sorry eringobragh1916, yes susan oneil married michael kelly. im really new to this and its all a bit confusing, lol.
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11 Oct 2010 13:32 |
Sami...How is Susan O'Neill the mother of Sarah Kelly (previous post)...surely Sarah's maiden name would be O'Neill given I cant see by her age that she would have been married and widowed before she married Charlie Quinn..even then she would have been married in her maiden name...
Are you actually looking for a Susan O'Neill marrying a Michael Kelly...???
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11 Oct 2010 09:40 |
sarah kelly married charles quinn, 13th july 1896. she was 18 sarahs father named michael kelly/ deceased/ hawker charles quinns father names john quinn. / stone mason. this makes sarahs dob. 1878 i think
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