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Im still with you Gael!

Michael these look promising for Elizabeth but you need certs

Marriages Sep 1873 (>99%)
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HALLETT Elizabeth Kingston 2a 407

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Marriages Dec 1875 (>99%)
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HALLETT Elizabeth Kingston 2a 456

Do you have the marriage certificate for Emma?

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1949
about Emma C F Hallett
Name: Emma C F Hallett
Spouse Name: Christian Pederseh
Marriage Date: 1869
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1869
Registration Number: 543

Ginny - maybe the only emigrant was Emma? It is very interesting though that 'family legend' has Emma in Australia with a sister Margaret - now clearly that must be wrong for I can find no reference to Margaret Hallett in these,. and i am sure we have the right Halletts - everything else fits. I then wondered whether Margaret had morphed from Martha - but that doesn't seem to be the case either. Strange! Certainly the 'other' Hallett who had emigrated to Australia married a guy called Mr Rendell - about whom I know little else. The name Rendell though has become a family second name - so they were influential.

This looks like her passage to Oz

Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839–1923
about Emma Hallett
Name: Emma Hallett
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Age: 23
Arrival Date: 20 Oct 1865
Arrival Port: Hobsons Bay, Australia
Departure Port: Liverpool
Ship: Duke Of Newcastle
Nationality: English and Welsh


Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839–1923
about Emma Hallett
Name: Emma Hallett
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Age: 23
Arrival Date: 24 Oct 1865
Arrival Port: Melbourne, Australia
Departure Port: Liverpool
Ship: Duke Of Newcastle
Nationality: English


Edit; She appears to be alone. I'll take another look to see if margaret is around

No sign of a Margaret....

Now as I said way back when....Susan was actually Elizabeth Susan?

For my benefit!

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about Elizabeth Susan Hallett
Name: Elizabeth Susan Hallett
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1837
Christening Date: 8 Jan 1837
Christening Place: Burton Bradstock, Dorset, England
Father's Name: Peter Hallett
Mother's Name: Charlotte



England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about Elizabeth Ann Hallett
Name: Elizabeth Ann Hallett
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1838
Christening Date: 16 Sep 1838
Christening Place: Burton Bradstock, Dorset, England
Father's Name: Peter Hallett
Mother's Name: Charlotte

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1954
Christian Pederson...retired farmer
Name: Emma Pedersen
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1914
State: Victoria
District: Henty
Subdistrict: Brighton, Alexander St

Very many thanks again for all your work. You have moved things along a good way and I am very grateful.

Ive not finished!!

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Conrad C Pedersen
Name: Conrad C Pedersen
Birth Date: 1870
Father's Name: Christian Pedersen
Mother's Name: Emma C
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1870
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Registration Number: 2605


And they came to the UK

1881 England Census
about Emma C.F. Pedersen
Name: Emma C.F. Pedersen
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Wife (Head) (Head)
Gender: Female
Where born: Tiverton, Devon, England

Civil parish: Caundle Bishop
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Interpreters Wife

Registration district: Sherborne
Sub-registration district: Yetminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Emma C.F. Pedersen 38
Conrad P. Pedersen 10
Sydney Pedersen 6
Walter E. Pedersen 4
Otto E. Pedersen 2


All the children except Conrad were born in Liverpool

Now that is interesting. I cannot think that there would be two Halletts with the same Parental names both called Elizabeth and christened in the same place only 20 months apart. Clearly however it must be the case. I need to check all birth records for the period - also deaths to see whether there was a very young death at that time?

Births Sep 1878 (>99%)
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Pedersen Otto Edward W. Derby 8b 441



Births Sep 1876 (>99%)
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Pedersen Walter Emil W.Derby 8b 413


Births Jun 1874 (>99%)
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Pedersen Sydney Robert W. Derby 8b 421

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Oscar Geo Pedersen
Name: Oscar Geo Pedersen
Death Place: Geelong, Victoria
Age: 39
Father's Name: Christian Pedersen
Mother's Name: Emma Chtte Fooks Hallatt
Registration Year: 1921
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 1777


Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Otto Edward Pedersen
Name: Otto Edward Pedersen
Death Place: Kew, Victoria
Age: 81
Father's Name: Christina Pedersen
Mother's Name: Emma Charlott Hallet
Registration Year: 1960
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 8978

And they are still in the UK in 91

1891 England Census
about Christian Pedersen <<<Immigration agent
Name: Christian Pedersen
Age: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Emma Pedersen
Gender: Male
Where born: W S Norway

Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England


Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Thomas
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Christian Pedersen 47
Emma Pedersen 48
Carroll Pedersen 20 (Conrad) Interpreter
Walter Pedersen 14
Otto Pedersen 12
Oscar Pedersen 9
Cristian Pedersen 6
Carl Johnson 60
Rose C Bren 30
Maria Movrilyy 32

Thanks - - they are found in Liverpool in 1891 - but that same year the family emigrated to Australia. Conrad had married Pauline Carlin in 1891, just before they sailed. Conrad and Pauline returned to the UK and settled in Liverpool almost immediately however, and are found in the 1901 and 1911 census details in Liverpool. My father appears in the 1911 census -Walter Rendell Pedersen, born in 1902. The other brothers and parents stayed in Australia. Christian served in the First World War and was killed in 1917.

Ginny - another great big thank you for all this research. I have a lot to go on again and will go through all of this very carefully. Can I just ask one thing? You seem to have access to Australian information which I do not appear to have a access to. Are you using other sites for this or is it all through Genesreunited? The information I have from shipping has always come via Australian researchers and help - and I seem unable to find it.

Michael

I dont use GR, I sub to Ancestry World Wide

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