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30 Sep 2010 09:28 |
Am absolutely overwhelmed this morning at the response from you all, It’s my first such appeal and I am so very appreciative of your efforts. I am amazed and have the feeling that your group must be sitting somewhere at Bletchley Park.
I am now going to look at some of the addresses that you have suggested.
I had used the Canadian site Janey and did leave a message to correct their error.
Managed to find the ships list for the Sicilian too, there were 132 children on that particular journey they were aged between 7 and 13
I had never considered he may have been adopted.
Thank you
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29 Sep 2010 23:51 |
So not him, it was just a wild shot. You don't see any other likely marriage for Jerry Tranthen? Or McLeod, as he could have taken the family's surname.
There are several records for a Jerry or Jermie McLeod in US-Canada border crossings 1908-1935
http://search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=1344&enc=1 or http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1344&enc=1
? All three at Fort Frances / Port Arthur.
Royston has not yet red my PM ...
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29 Sep 2010 23:04 |
Here it is. It's for Harmon Trueax Fountain:
Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1801-1926 about Harmon Frneat Fountain Name: Harmon Frneat Fountain [User-Submitted-Comment] Birth Place: Georgina; York Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1904 Father Name: Jerry Fountain Mother Name: Eliza Godfrey Spouse Name: Annie Lousia Mitchell Spouse's Age: 18 Spouse Birth Place: Beaverton; Ontario Spouse Father Name: Walter Mitchell Spouse Mother Name: Emma Lousia Mitchell Marriage Date: 22 Oct 1926 Marriage County: Ontario Archives of Ontario Microfilm: MS932_774 Rose
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29 Sep 2010 19:04 |
Births Mar 1903 Tranthen Jeremiah M Shoreditch 1c 90
Rose -- Isn't that a fine example of the hash Ancestry has made of so many Canadian records?!
I tried Ontario marriages at Ancestry (up to 1926), but no luck.
Unless -- Rose, do you want to check this one?
Harmon Frneat Fountain
Someone has corrected the name, but done it by comment rather than correction, so I can't read it. I doubt that it's related, but just in case ...
PMed Royston to ask him to return to the thread.
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29 Sep 2010 18:53 |
1911 Census of Canada about Serry Farther Name: Serry Farther Gender: Male Marital Status: Single Age: 7 Birth Date: Nov 1903 Birthplace: England Relation to Head of House: Adopted Immigration Year: 1910 Tribal: English Province: Ontario District: Grey East District Number: 72 Sub-District: Holland Sub-District Number: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age R Thomas Mc Ramb 24 Estal Mc Ramb 25 Elifford Mc Ramb 2 Serry Farther 7
Born Nov. 1903. Rose
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29 Sep 2010 18:52 |
Trial and error at Ancestry shows them in Collingwood, Grey East. Automatedgenealogy provides surname indexes for each of the four Collingwood subdistricts.
And if Jerrie was Jessie, then of course Forter was Foster! But!!! This adopted "Serry Farther" wasn't with that household after all.
Back to the Ancestry drawing board ... he was in Holland. And Automatedgenealogy has him as Jerry Fanthon.
Fanthon Jerry M Adopted S Sep 1903 7 McLeod R Thomas M Head M Nov 1876 34 McLeod Ethel F Wife M Mar 1888 23 McLeod Clifford M Son S May 1909 2
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SplitView.jsp?id=46867
Take a look at the image and see what you think.
I can pretty easily read it as Tranthen. DOB is November 1903, born England, immigrated 1910.
I think that's him.
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29 Sep 2010 18:37 |
Doing an exact search at Ancestry for dob 1902 +/- 1 year, born in England, immigration year 1910, no names, gives 29 results (14 male). One is:
Serry Farther Grey East, Ontario 1903
No other Farther is shown in Grey East, so presumably that is not the adoptive parents' names. However, there is a Forter couple with a child.
Of course, it's also possible that if he was adopted, his whole name was changed.
Automatedgenealogy, Home / 1911 / Ontario / Grey East
Hopeless, no surnames Farther or Forter in Grey East, by their transcription.
Somebody with access to Canadian records at Ancestry is needed, I'm afraid! Unless you want to trawl the images. ;)
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29 Sep 2010 18:28 |
An exact search at Ancestry for given name Jer*, dob 1902 +/- 2 years, relationship "adopted", produces two results.
Jerrie Gerrie Wellington SouthOntario 1904 Jeremie Pesusareu SheffordQuebec 1903
Automatedgenealogy shows:
Gerrie William M. M Head M Feb 1862 49 1901 Gerrie Annie F Wife M Sep 1867 43 1901 Gerrie Jerrie T. F Adopted S Jan 1904 7 1901 Gerrie Harvey M Adopted S Nov 1906 4
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SplitView.jsp?id=51467
Oh well, the image shows that to be an adopted daughter, whose name is actually Jessie, born in Ontario. I'll leave that here for ruling out.
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29 Sep 2010 18:20 |
I wonder whether he might actually have been adopted, unlike many Home Children? He was quite young, so that's possible.
On a search at ancestry.ca for given name Jer* born 1902 +/- 2 years in England, immigrated 1910, there is a
Jerman Walker Toronto North, Ontario dob 1902
I don't subscribe for details (e.g. to see parents' names), and I can't find that entry at automatedgenealogy.com for love nor money. That site, while free, has a crap search function (can't search by given name alone).
There are also a Jeremiah Drury dob 1903 in Simcoe East, with no parents' names shown, and a Jeremiah Dokerhy dob 1901 in Wellington South, for example.
If he was adopted, he may have emigrated to the US as an adult under the adopted surname. If he emigrated after 1930, the last US census now accessible, he won't appear in a census.
For info, this is his record in the Canadian Home Children collection:
Surname: TRANTHERN Given Name: Jeremiah Age: 7 Sex: M Ship: Sicilian Year of Arrival: 1910 Departure Port: London Departure Date: 1 October 1910 Arrival Port: Quebec Arrival Date: 14 October 1910 Party: Dr Barnardo's Destination: Toronto, Ontario Notes: The child's given name was illegible or difficult to decipher Source: Library and Archives Canada Reference: RG76 C 1 a Microfilm: T-4773 Type of Record: Passenger Lists Group of Children Traveling Together
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/home-children/001015-100.01-e.php
When you go to his record, there is a link to "Suggest a Correction". I'd suggest that you do that, so if anyone searches for him in future they'll find him. I don't know whether the authorities here would keep your info on record and provide it in that case, but it's worth asking. (A permanent email address like Gmail is good to have for those purposes.)
I'd also put a postem on his birth record at FreeBMD (with an email address), again so that anyone who searches for him will be able to contact you.
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl
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29 Sep 2010 17:45 |
Hi Royston,
Not seeing him on any US census records or a death for him on the Social Security Death Index.
Just see him on the passenger lists, his birth and baptism.
Rose
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29 Sep 2010 17:34 |
Hi I have been trying to find Jeremiah Tranthem for some time now and have only been able to get as far as this:
Jeremiah was admitted to Barnardos and immigrated to Canada as a Home Child on 1st October 1910 aboard the SS Sicilian. Port of departure London. He arrived at Quebec on 14th October. Destination: Toronto Ont. His date of birth was the 10th December 1902. His age was 7. His parents were Thomas and Johanna Tranthem.
The Canadian Authorities misread his name and officialy he may be Tranthern
Barnardos, who whilst agreeing with these details, will only add that his last known whereabouts was in 1939, when he was living in California, USA.
I have tried the Canadian census without any success and have yet to attempt any American searches. Basically my problem is that I don’t really know how to go about it. Where to start.
I would very much appreciate if you could give me some guidance.
Many thanks for your help
Royston
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