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The problem I've got with these as parents is I have John Parks marriage cert. to Elizabeth Hay and his parents on that are John Park Occ Mason and Janet Jackson so don't think James and Elizabeth are his parents.

IGI for Hoddam has no Bapts of Parks C118292 1746-1820

I think James Park is of his family but def not his Father as his father is John on his marriage cert and is a mason.
Maybe James is an uncle or cousin.
I have had no luck finding anything ach,sorry.
Will have to leave you to it and maybe a holiday to Hoddam Dumfriess?

Dinner.

Yep you think the same as me well thanks for you help.
Yes a holiday sounds good to me, enjoy yer dinner just had mine.

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ANN CARLYLE BELL Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth: 04 NOV 1821

Christening: 12 NOV 1821 Hoddom, Dumfries, Scotland

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: ROBERT BELL Family
Mother: AGNESS FARRIES


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Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The form lists the submitter's name and address and may include source information. The address may be outdated. Details vary. To find the form, you must know the batch and sheet number.

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AGNES FARRIES Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 06 APR 1800 Hoddam, Dumfries, Scotland

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM FARRIES Family


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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JANET FARRIES Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 05 JAN 1812 Hoddam, Dumfries, Scotland

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM FARRIES Family
Mother: MARGARET CARLYLE


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
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C118292 1746 - 1820 1067963 Film 6901646 Film

Hi Ellen, I am a member of DGFHS so I will email them for a search of the MI for the surname Park.
Thanks for the above info regarding the other residents living with John and Janet Park.

I did find a marriage for a David Park and Janet Jackson 23/2/1827. David Park Mason of the Parish of Halfmorton and Janet Jackson of this Parish. this is the only marriage I can find for Janet Jackson so I wondered if John Park was David John and used his middle name. What do you think?

Ach,You can buy the books/CD on MI's in their online bookshop.

Ellen

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Husband
John Park Pedigree


Birth: About 1787 Halfmorton, Dumfries, Scotland
Christening:
Marriage: About 1815 Of, Halfmorton, Dumfries, Scotland
Death: 1843 Halfmorton, Dumfries, Scotland
Burial: 1843 Halfmorton, Dumfries, Scotland





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Wife
Jannet Byers Pedigree


Birth: About 1787 Of, Halfmorton, Dumfries, Scotland
Christening:
Marriage: About 1815 Of, Halfmorton, Dumfries, Scotland
Death: 1843 Halfmorton, Dumfries, Scotland
Burial: 1843 Halfmorton, Dumfries, Scotland





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Children

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1. James Park Pedigree
Male

Birth: About 1817 Halfmorton, Dumfries, Scotland
Christening:
Death: 1833 Halfmorton, Dumfries, Scotland
Burial: 1833 Halfmorton, Dumfries, Scotland


This is Where the Census James Park came from .I would think that was a brother to your John Park,as he has given John1829 an apprenticeship.Also has a son named John.

1841
Name: John Park
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1791
Gender: Male
Where born: Dumfriesshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Hoddam
County: Dumfriesshire
Address: Broad Meadow
Occupation: Mason
Parish Number: 829
Household Members: Name Age
John Park 50
Janet Park 50
Jane Park 25
Edward Carlyle 60
Jessie Iwan 19
Ann Bell 16
Samuel Bell 16

Another one to look for
1851
Name: William Park
Age: 52
Estimated birth year: abt 1799
Relationship: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Half Morton, Dumfriesshire
Parish Number: 828
Civil parish: Half Morton
County: Dumfriesshire
Address: Solwaybank Cottage
Occupation: Farmer Of 15 Acres
ED: 2
Page: 3 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 9
Line: 5
Roll: CSSCT1851_207
Household Members: Name Age
William Park 52
Mary Park 41

http://genuki.org.uk/big/sct/DFS/parish_map.html

HALFMORTON, a parish, in the county of Dumfries, 6 miles (N. W.) from Longtown; containing 737 inhabitants. This place derives its name from its having formed part of the ancient parish of Morton, of which, on its suppression in the early part of the 17th century, one-half was merged in the parish of Canobie, and the other, named Halfmorton, though still remaining as a parish quoad civilia, was ecclesiastically united to the parish of Wauchope. On the subsequent erection of Wauchope and Staplegorton into the present parish of Langholm, in 1703, the minister of that parish officiated only every fourth Sabbath at Halfmorton, which, in 1839, was consequently disjoined from Langholm by a decree of the Court of Teinds, and erected into an independent parish. Halfmorton is situated in the south-eastern part of the county, and is bounded on the east by the river Sark, which separates it from Cumberland; it comprises an area of about 5700 acres, of which 125 are woodland and plantations, 400 moss, and the remainder chiefly arable, with a due proportion of meadow and pasture. The surface is agreeably diversified, and the scenery embellished with thriving plantations. The Sark is the principal river, and a small stream called the Logan flows through the parish; in both these are found trout, but not in great abundance.

From: 'Haddington - Hawick', A Topographical Dictionary of Scotland (1846), pp. 527-539. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=43446 Date accessed: 04 October 2010.

Ach.The Parks born in Halfmorton are bound to be related.

Hi Ellen, trying to get my head around this, as you can see from cyn's remark not the quickest.
Do you think John Park b.1787 and Janet Byers b. 1787 are his parents because the age of my John Park b1791 suggests not. I do think your right about James Park being his brother.
Now the 1851 census I have suggests that the Janet Park on that is not my Janet Park nee Jackson, but Janet Park nee Byers, if that makes sense.

Chris

Hi Ach,I am Suggesting that the John Park c 1787 and the John Park c1791 are the same person.5 years out in a Census is the norm.I also think James and William are his brothers.Where have you got the info that John married a Janet Jackson.

1851
Name: Jannet Park
Age: 67
Estimated birth year: abt 1784
Relationship: Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: Westerkirk, Dumfriesshire
Parish Number: 829
Civil parish: Hoddom
County: Dumfriesshire
Address: Broadmeadow
ED: 1
Page: 21 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 91
Line: 18
Roll: CSSCT1851_207
Household Members: Name Age
William Byers 68 -c1783 Westerkirk-Surgeon Licentiate Of The R Cella?? Surgeons Edinkburgh (not Practicing
Jannet Park 67
Elizebeth Armstrong 70 -c1781 Westerkirk-sister (InLaw likely)
Jannet Park 26 -c1825 Middlebie-Servant

Hi Ellen, the infor for John married to Janet Jackson is from the marriage cert of John Park & Elizabeth Hay. John Parks Father is John Park Mason (deceased) and Mother Janet Jackson.

Deaths are usual not registered in Scotland before 1855,so MI's are the best way to find a death in a certain area ,also lets you know who is buried in the same lair.Poor Relief Records can also be a good source for info.