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28 Sep 2010 22:41 |
1891 census - household transcription Person: BURNHAM, John Address: St Giles, Eaton Bray BURNHAM, John Head Married M 53 1838 Agricultural Labourer Ivinghoe Buckinghamshire BURNHAM, Ann Wife Married F 38 1853 Straw Plaiter Eaton Bray Bedfordshire BURNHAM, Walter Son Single M 27 1864 Ag Labourer Ivinghoe Buckinghamshire BURNHAM, Lydia Daughter Single F 18 1873 Straw Plaiter Ivinghoe Buckinghamshire BURNHAM, Florrie Daughter Single F 11 1880 Straw Plaiter Ivinghoe Buckinghamshire BURNHAM, Ernest Son M 9 1882 Scholar Eaton Bray Bedfordshire BURNHAM, John Son M 7 1884 Scholar Eaton Bray Bedfordshire BURNHAM, Lily Daughter F 4 1887 Scholar Eaton Bray Bedfordshire BURNHAM, Ruth Daughter F 1 1890 Eaton Bray Bedfordshire
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28 Sep 2010 22:33 |
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1881 - could this be a connection?
John BURNHAM Head M Male 43 Ivinghoe Aston, Buckingham, England General Labr Ann BURNHAM Wife M Female 27 Eaton Bray, Bedford, England Straw Plaiter Hannah DYER Boarder U Female 19 Eaton Bray, Bedford, England Straw Plaiter Walter BURNHAM Son U Male 17 Ivinghoe Aston, Buckingham, England General Labr Joseph BURNHAM Son Male 13 Ivinghoe Aston, Buckingham, England General Labr Lydia BURNHAM Daur Female 9 Ivinghoe Aston, Buckingham, England Scholar Roda FOUNTAIN Step Daur Female 9 Eaton Bray, Bedford, England Scholar Ethred BURNHAM Son Male 6 Ivinghoe Aston, Buckingham, England Scholar Henry FOUNTAIN Step Son Male 6 Eaton Bray, Bedford, England Scholar Flora BURNHAM Daur Female 1 Ivinghoe Aston, Buckingham, England Rosa DYER Niece Female 2 m Eaton Bray, Bedford, England
BERMHAM/BURNHAM????
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28 Sep 2010 22:30 |
1901 census - household transcription Person: FOUNTAIN, Emma Address: 18, Weymouth Street, Hemel Hempstead FOUNTAIN, Emma Head Married F 27 1874 Eaton Bray Bedfordshire FOUNTAIN, Ethel Daughter Single F 9 1892 Eaton Bray Bedfordshire FOUNTAIN, Henry Son Single M 2 1899 Eaton Bray Bedfordshire FOUNTAIN, Eva Daughter Single F 0 (4 MOS) 1901 Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire BERMHAM, Ernest Brother-In-Law Single M 20 1881 Labourer In Paper Mill Eaton Bray Bedfordshire VIEW BERMHAM, Jack Brother-In-Law Single M 17 1884 Labourer In Paper Mill Eaton Bray Bedfordshire
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28 Sep 2010 22:28 |
Following Emma Cripps
1881 census - household transcription Person: CRIPPS, Emma Address: Union Workhouse, Leighton Buzzard CRIPPS, Fanny Pauper Single F 35 1846 Straw Plaiter Eaton Bray Bedfordshire CRIPPS, Alice Pauper Single F 10 1871 Attendant At School Eaton Bray Bedfordshire CRIPPS, Emma Pauper Single F 8 1873 Attendant At School Eaton Bray
1891 census - household transcription Person: CRIPPS, Emma Address: Chapel Yard, Eaton Bray COLMAN, James T Head Married M 22 1869 General Labourer Luton Bedfordshire COLMAN, Annie E Wife Married F 23 1868 Eaton Bray Bedfordshire COLMAN, Clara E Daughter F 0 (8M) 1891 Eaton Bray Bedfordshire CRIPPS, Emma Sister In Law F 18 1873 Straw Plaiter Eaton Bray Bedfordshire
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28 Sep 2010 22:09 |
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1892 (>99%) CRIPPS Emma Leighton B. 3b 791 FOUNTAIN Henry Leighton B. 3b 791 Gadsden Thomas Leighton B. 3b 791 Rollings Ann Leighton Buzzard 3b 791
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28 Sep 2010 20:40 |
This Newman family were in Eaton Bray.
1901 census - household transcription Person: NEWMAN, Charles Address: Prospect Cottages, Summerleys, Eaton Bray NEWMAN, Charles Head Married M 31 1870 Bread Baker Eddlesborough Buckinghamshire VIEW NEWMAN, Sabina Wife Married F 35 1866 Eddlesborough Buckinghamshire VIEW NEWMAN, Constance Daughter M 0 (6 MOS) 1901 Eddlesborough Buckinghamshire VIEW NEWMAN, Ann Mother Widow F 64 1837 Eddlesborough Buckinghamshire VIEW IMPEY, Frederick Boarder Single M 16 1885 Journeyman Baker Eddlesborough Buckinghamshire
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PaddingtonRob
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28 Sep 2010 17:04 |
Thanks again. All hopefully all will become clearer when I receive the marriage certificate. Fingers crossed.
I saw tht lodger reference, and could be possible, but need to get the birth date sorted once and for all.
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28 Sep 2010 16:48 |
1891 England Census about Henry Fountain Name: Henry Fountain Age: 17 Estimated birth year: abt 1874 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Caton; Bray, Bedfordshire, England
John Edmunds 47 Ellen Edmunds 28 John Edmunds 4 Annie E Edmunds 2 William Edmunds 1 William Houris 17 Henry Fountain 17 Henry Pakes 6 Edward Luck 17 Eli Horn
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28 Sep 2010 16:47 |
Sorry i deleted an aberration
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28 Sep 2010 16:27 |
Hannah Dyer from 1881 census:-
1871 Name: Hannah Dyer Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: David Dyer Mother's Name: Sarah Dyer Gender: Female Where born: Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire, England Civil parish: Eaton Bray Town: Eaton Bray County/Island: Bedfordshire Country: England Registration district: Leighton Buzzard Sub-registration district: Edlesborough ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 111 Household Members: Name Age David Dyer 40 born: Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire (Day Lab.) Sarah Dyer 39 born: Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire (Plaiter) Betsy Dyer 15 Sarah Dyer 12 Hannah Dyer 10 George Dyer 6 Arthur Dyer 4
and 1861 shows Ann:- Name: David Dyer Age: 29 Estimated birth year: abt 1832 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Sarah Dyer Gender: Male Where born: Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire, England Civil parish: Eaton Bray County/Island: Bedfordshire Country: England Street Address:
Registration district: Leighton Buzzard Sub-registration district: Edlesborough ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 139 Household Members: Name Age David Dyer 29 Sarah Dyer 29 Ann Dyer 8 Elizabeth Dyer 5 Sarah Dyer 1
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Catherine
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28 Sep 2010 16:13 |
This would be Ann Dyer (Fountain)'s first marriage:-
Marriages Dec 1870 (>99%) DYER Ann Leighton B. 3b 831 FOUNTAIN Frederic Leighton B. 3b 831 Janes Nathaniel Leighton Buzzard 3b 831 Sternham Ann Sharratt Leighton Buzzard 3b 831
The district Leighton Buzzard spans the boundaries of the counties of Bedfordshire and Buckinghamshire
1871 Name: Ann Fountain Age: 19 Estimated birth year: abt 1852 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Frederick Fountain Gender: Female Where born: Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire, England Civil parish: Eaton Bray Town: Eaton Bray County/Island: Bedfordshire Country: England Registration district: Leighton Buzzard Sub-registration district: Edlesborough ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 75 Household Members: Name Age Frederick Fountain 21 born: Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire Ann Fountain 19
Deaths Sep 1875 (>99%) ?? FOUNTAIN Frederick 31 Leighton B. 3b 257
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PaddingtonRob
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28 Sep 2010 15:44 |
Hi again lady K. I have checked in BMD sections andd have confirmed marriage of NEWMAN Henry Fountain to FAWDRY Winifred Ellen. Registered in Southam (Warwickshire). Jul-Sept 1907, Vol 6d, Page 1457.
So it refers to the 'Fountain' part as a second name, but as you have seen on the 1911 Census, and also on my mother's birth and marriage certificates, she and her parents are referred to as 'Fountain Newman'.
The mystery deepens. However i have ordered the certificate and this may provide some answers.
re. Births Sep 1909 (>99%) Newman Winifred Maria Southwark 1d 50a . That is my Aunt and once again everything refers to Fountain Newman
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LadyKira
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28 Sep 2010 15:11 |
There is a public tree on Ancestry with Henry son of Ann and Frederick and is recorded as marrying Emma Cripps.
1874 13 NovBirth Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire, England, United Kingdom 3 source citations Hide source citations 1881 England Census 1891 England Census England & Wales, Birth Index: 1837-1983 1881 Age: 7 Residence Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire, England 1 source citation Hide source citations 1881 England Census 1891 Age: 17 Residence Kempston, Bedfordshire, England 1 source citation Hide source citations 1891 England Census 1892 4 JulAge: 17 Marriage to Emma Cripps Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire, England
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28 Sep 2010 14:58 |
Births Sep 1909 (>99%) Newman Winifred Maria Southwark 1d 50a
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28 Sep 2010 14:50 |
Strange as ALL members are recorded with the middle name Fountain
1911 NEWMAN, Henry Fountain Head Married M 28 1883 Stationery Dealer Eaton Bray Bedfordshire VIEW NEWMAN, Winifred Ellen Fountain Wife Married F 24 1887 Witney Oxfordshire VIEW NEWMAN, Winifred Maria Fountain Daughter F 2 1909 Camberwell London VIEW NEWMAN, Nellie Eileen Fountain Daughter F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911
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28 Sep 2010 14:41 |
I was wondering why Henry Fountain Newman in your original post became Henry Fountain. when searching FMP I just used the search criteria Henry and Eaton Bray. ther was no Henry of the earlier birthdate nor was their Henry Newman. I think you will need the marriage cert before you go any furthur.
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PaddingtonRob
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28 Sep 2010 14:05 |
Thanks Lady K
Some interesting things there.
As you can see the ages are so often wrong on censuses.
On the 1891 one, Richard, the head of the family is listed as 40. However on the 1881 one he is listed as only 8 years younger.
suppose Harry b1881, could well be the Henry i am looking for still unsure here the Newman part came in. As you say will have to investigate further. ttermpting now to locate the date and place of henry Fountain Newman and Winifred fawdry's wedding. Possibly in Witney, Oxon.
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28 Sep 2010 13:36 |
1881 census - household transcription Person: FOUNTAIN, Eliza Address: High Street, Eaton-Bray FOUNTAIN, Richard Head Married M 32 1849 Publican & Ag Lab (Out Of Employ) Eaton Bray Bedfordshire VIEW FOUNTAIN, Eliza Wife Married F 24 1857 Straw Plaiter Eaton Bray Bedfordshire VIEW FOUNTAIN, Frank Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar Eaton Bray Bedfordshire VIEW FOUNTAIN, Kate Daughter Single F 2 1879 Eaton Bray Bedfordshire VIEW FOUNTAIN, Infant Son Single M 0 1881 Eaton Bray Bedfordshire
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LadyKira
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28 Sep 2010 13:26 |
Several possibilities here. The 2 censuses show Richard and Eliza as parents rather than Ann but birthdate is nearer. I think you need a little more investigation here.
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28 Sep 2010 13:15 |
1891 census - household transcription Person: FOUNTAIN, Harry Address: Gammons Lane, Eaton Bray FOUNTAIN, Richard Head Married M 40 1851 Agricultral Labourer Eaton Bray Bedfordshire VIEW FOUNTAIN, Eliza Wife Married F 34 1857 Straw Plaiter Eaton Bray Bedfordshire VIEW FOUNTAIN, Frank Son M 15 1876 Scholar Eaton Bray Bedfordshire VIEW FOUNTAIN, Harry Son M 10 1881 Scholar Eaton Bray Bedfordshire VIEW FOUNTAIN, Lucy F Daughter F 5 1886 Scholar Eaton Bray Bedfordshire VIEW FOUNTAIN, Amos Son M 2 1889 Eaton Bray Bedfordshire
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