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From Lancashire BMD
You should be able to see details of them I think.

Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HOGAN John CRAWFORD Mary Ann Wigan, Register Office or Registrar Attended Wigan & Leigh ROW/75/34

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1897
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference

HOGAN John DONNELLY Mary Wigan, Register Office or Registrar Attended Wigan & Leigh ROW/86/139

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1900
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HOGAN John HAGAN Mary Wigan, Register Office or Registrar Attended Wigan & Leigh ROW/102/70
Total records matching : 3


Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1889
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
HOGAN Ann 39 Wigan Wigan & Leigh WIG/121/467


Sent message to C,but I think she said that she was going shopping with B when I spoke to her this morning.

Yes they are all RC so no records in history shop.

Right ageish,birth place,manual labour,no other Peter Hogan other than yours on other census so similar for specs.
Just a feeling as well.
Learnt to listen to that a bit I have,not always right of coursethough,cant be right all the time .;)

Will speak to C, what makes you think this could be him in Scotland.

I think you may be able to see some details without payment at Wigan RO, C will be able to tell you,C knows how.

But they are all Roman Catholic are they not?May be you wont be able to in that case.
Off to ask C.

This may be Peter


1891 Scotland Census about Peter Hogan
Name: Peter Hogan
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relationship: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration district: Bothwell
Civil parish: Bothwell
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Tannochside 36
Occupation: C Miner
Household Members:
Name Age
Bernard Gillan 27
Calleran Gillan 19
Bernard Gillan 3
Mary Ann Gillan 1
Peter Hogan 22
Charles O'Niel 20

When you say look them up do you mean go to RO and ask questions, sorry to ask. or do you mean purchase them.

???

Deaths Dec 1889
Hogan Ann 39 Wigan 8c 39

Can you look this one up next week ach?

I know the age is out a bit,but do remember they ARE Irish .;))


And these marriages.

Marriages Dec 1891
Hogan John Wigan 8c 171
Marriages Mar 1897
Hogan John Wigan 8c 183
Marriages Dec 1900
Hogan John Wigan 8c 213


I suspect that after looking at 1881 again that Mary ann and Ann ARE 2 different people.
Also there is a massive gap between children on it so did some stay in Ireland(like Christopher)and come over later.?

I thought the same regarding Ann dying and John remarrying Mary Ann.

The 1891 could or could not be John Hogan as Catherine is with him on it and she seems to be the only Catherine Hogan born Wigan at that time.

Births Jun 1880
HOGAN Catherine Wigan 8c 41

So I am sitting on the fence for 1891.

The others may well have popped over to Ireland for a visit to Mothers family.

But I cant find Christopher on census before or after 1891 at the moment to be able to find him with father John to see if he is same family.
Wonder why John is down as Widow?
Hmmm..,did Ann die and he remarried a Mary Ann?

Edit
A Taylor family are at 14 Albert street in 1891.

Another thing I have is Peter and Ann Houghton's marriage cert. 29/3/1893 Peter's father is John Hogan Bricklayers Labour and Peters address was 14 Albert St Ince,Wigan

Yes I do have the 1911 and it's the same one as yours.

Yes certain 1901 are the correct people, so I also think the 1891 for John is wrong but I can't find them anywhere.

Lets start at 1901 if you are "certain"that this is correct.

HOGAN, Peter Head Married M 30 1871 Labourer At Steel Works
Ireland
HOGAN, Ann Wife Married F 26 1875
Wigan
Lancashire
HOGAN, John Son Single M 7 1894 Scholar
Ince
Lancashire
HOGAN, Annie Daughter Single F 4 1897 Scholar
Ince
Lancashire
HOGAN, Henry Son Single M 1 (1 YRS 9 MOS) 1900
Ince
Lancashire
HOGAN, John Father Married M 55 1846 Colliery Labourer Above Ground
Ireland
HOGAN, Mary Ann Mother Married F 60 1841 At Home
Ireland
HOGAN, Henry Brother Single M 25 1876 Labourer In Coal Mine
Wigan
Lancashire

Registration District:
Wigan Sub District:
Hindley Enumeration District:
35 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Christ Church

Civil Parish:
Ince in Makerfield Municipal Borough:
Address:
13, Caroline Street, Ince In Makerfield County:
Lancashire
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1891

HOGAN, Henry Single M 15 1876 Scholar
Wigan
Lancashire
In Everton as you say..

1891 for John Hogan has to be wrong dont you think ,as he is down as Widow ,but he is still married in 1901.
BUT Catherine born 1880 is on there with them...Hmmm.back track of Christopher needed here I think.
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1911,just in case you dont have it..

HOGAN, Perter Head Married M 45 1866 Labour Iron Founder Dublin Ireland
HOGAN, Ann Wife Married
18 years F 37 1874 Wigan Lancashire
HOGAN, Henry Son M 11 1900 School Ince Lancashire
HOGAN, Robert Son M 8 1903 School Ince Lancashire
HOGAN, James Son M 3 1908 Ince Lancashire
HOGAN, Hugh Son M 1 1910 Ince Lancashire
HOGAN, Ann Daughter F 14 1897 Cotton Piller Spinning Mill Ince Lancashire
HOGAN, Mary Ann Daughter F 9 1902 School Ince Lancashire
HOGAN, Margret Daughter F 5 1906 Ince Lancashire
HOGAN, Henry Boarder M 34 1877 Coal Miner Hewer Wigan Lancashire

Registration District:
Wigan Sub District:
Hindley Enumeration District:
35 Parish:
Ince in Makerfield

Address:
15 Caroline Street Ince Near Wigan


Watch this space for edits to save extra pages..!

Decided to retrace my steps on this family and start again as not convinced I'm on the right family, here is all info I have got.
1871 census
John Hogan head 26yrs - lab ironworks - b. Ireland
Ann Hogan wife 28 b. Ireland
Peter son 4 b.Ireland
John son 1 b.Wigan
1881 census
John Hogan head 35 lab b.Dublin Ireland
Ann Hogan wife 36 b.Dublin Ireland
Peter 15 son mechanic b.Dublin Ireland
Henry son 4 b. Wigan-9 (this is the one i got the birth cert for).
Cathrine daug. 1 b. Wigan
1891census no record for Peter or Ann. found one for an Henry Hogan 15 b.Wigan living in an industrial school Everton Liverpool.
1891 Census
Christopher Hogan head 28 fireman at colliery b.Ireland
Elizabeth wife 21 b.Wales
Christopher son 1mth b.Wigan
Catherine sister 11 b.Wigan
John father widow bricksetters lab. b.Ireland
1901 census
Peter Hogan head 30 lab at steelworks b.Ireland
Ann wife 26 b.Wigan
John 7 son b.Wigan
Annie daug 4 b. Wigan
Henry son 1 b. Wigan
John 55 father colliery lab. b. Ireland
Mary ann 60 mother b. Ireland
Henry 25 brother b. Wigan
Would appreciate someone looking at this info to see if these census forms tie up. Wondered if the 1891 with John Hogan is the same John Hogan as the others.

will ask mutual friend to fill me in on your user name, just love it.

Thank you ach.
I believe a mutual friend may be able to fill you in on my board name origins and if you require more help on the Irish bit do please come back here as

Eringobragh1916

Is excellent at them !

Edits.
See you have just done that,must read posts properly in future.
Sends memo to self...

Just to say thanks to Fannybygaslight, by the way I love your user name.

The parents are John Hogan and Anne Swift. I did get the same info as you regarding Bap. for Peter and Mary Ann, I also got Bap. for a Christopher and a Birth for Ann Swift, but there is no Marriage for John Hogan and Anne Swift. the website was Irish geneology. Any suggestions for John and Ann's marriage.

ach..
If the parents were John Hogan and Ann Swift then Peter Hogan was b.27 Aug. 1865 ...Baptised at St.Muchan (Dublin) and the family were living at 62 Bolton St.at the time.
Baptism of a Mary Ann also listed 20 Oct.1867 ...2 Lisburn St.Dublin.(Parents John Hogan and Ann Swift)

Good luck.