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Births Sep 1916
Mitchell William Johnson Southwark 1d 54

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Births Dec 1911
MITCHELL Rose Johnson Southwark 1d 40

Births Mar 1914
MITCHELL Robert W Johnson Southwark 1d 33

Births Sep 1916
Mitchell James E Johnson Southwark 1d 66

Marriages Dec 1906
Johnson Elizabeth Southwark 1d 128
MITCHELL Robert William Southwark 1d 128

Name: Robert William Mitchell<<<<<,,Hawker
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Johnson
Spouse Age: 26
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 22 Oct 1906
Parish: St Mary Magdalene
County: Surrey
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Thomas Mitchell
Spouse Father Name: John Johnson

Address for both 15 kingslake st...Bachelor and spinster..both fathers deceased.

yes the death of william lynch is correct I thought mum had said 5th but 7th is very likely
thanks

yes I looked at those details and I am only hesitant as my mum said he also had a brother ronald but I cant find any trace of him either she thought it was lynch but as I say I can only find this one marraige of an alice to a sydney cutler! strange

william lynch died 24/12/1999 in croydon london but my mum reg his death so details are only as she knows thanks

And when and where did William Lynch die please?

1911 for Alice?
MITCHELL, Robert Head Married M 33 1878 Hawker Books Borough of Bermondsey
MITCHELL, Elizabeth Wife Married 15 years
F 31 1880 Borough of Bermondsey
JOHNSON, Elizabeth Daughter F 11 1900 School Borough of Bermondsey
MITCHELL, Alice Daughter F 4 1907 School Borough of Southwark
MITCHELL, John Son M 2 1909 Borough of Southwark

Registration District:
Southwark Sub District:
Kent Road Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
Southwark St George the Martyr

Address:
25 Pardoner St SE County:
London

Hmm,married 15 yrs and yet they have an Elizabeth Johnson in house as "daughter"at only 11 yrs of age.
Transcript is correct.

Name: William Lynch
Birth Date: 7 Jul 1916
Death Registration Month/Year: Dec 1999
Age at death (estimated): 83
Registration district: Croydon
Inferred County: London, Surrey
Register number: A61B
District and Subdistrict: 2251A
Entry number: 20

I think it was robert mitchell 23/11/1874 st saviour but not 100% dont know his trade im afraid
thanks

What was Alices fathers name and occupation please Clare?

well the manning birth cert for kathllen is definatly no match as it says mannering. The wedding cert for william lynch and kathleen kenny has father as martin kenny. so after looking ay kathleens brothers and sisters marraiges we have found norah hurley as her mum to be a definate match. hooray. half the mystery solved

Now for william lynch. His father is down as frederick Lynch a fruitier.

my mother knows he had a sister Alice who married a sydney cutler.

one day kathllen heard somone call him(william) mitch!

I think I have the alice /cutler marraige which would make her alice mitchell born 1906 married sydney cutler born 1902 they married southwark 1927.
my mum said william lynch lived with the lynch's. This is where I now need some help to find williams birth please? and to try and find out if he was indeed a lynch or mitchell. his date of birth was 5 july but not sure of year. mum thinks its 1915-1917
any help would be greatly appreciated thank you

Images emailed!

hi janeycanuck.
I just read all you put on last night and I saw the entry on GR and that was a little smudged but you could just make out kathleen and 4 digits.
I have to say it looks pretty good. I will be on again later today when little one goes to nap.
I ordered the marraige lynch/kenny and ordered the manning BC so as soon as they turn up I will let you know but I think the BC you where last talking about sounds right. we shall see
thanks

Take that, professional genealogists. ;)

Just before I go.

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Well done you ,first class work.

Oh, that is loads better than the one that FreeBMD and Ancestry have.

(The magic of the internet, eh? went to gmail and there it was.)

Well, definitely Greenwich, and definitely Kathleen. With a middle initial?

Mother looks rather like Haring. ;) But I for sure think Hurley is about the most sensible reading of it!

Okay now, c'mon. Would this ever have been found 'cept for dog-with-bone moi on the case??

Well, I guess maybe if I'd pay for FMP I might have found it sooner, or somebody else might have ... but nah. ;)


Oh, and I do make it 1d 1154. In the incomplete list at FreeBMD for K births in that quarter, 1155 is a valid number. Hang on ... Yup, 1154 is a valid page number for that quarter in Greenwich -- and the list shows only 5 names, i.e. one missing, I think.

Sure, but you're right, Clare will have to give this one the personal touch when ordering. You're the best one to advise on that (I mean, at least, I'm the worst one).

I took a look at FreeBMD's image as well, via

http://www2.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/information.pl?scan=1&r=140476250&d=bmd_1283811321

and it's about the same as Ancestry's. I do see it as Kathleen, and I can see where it might be an "l" in Hurley misread as an "i" in Fariss, whatever that might be. It does look like an "r" in front of it. The letter after that looks like a pointy one, like "v" or "y", but that's probably just the pixels mushing.

Send it on. If Clare wants to see, I can just forward that to her with the Ancestry one -- but it sounded like she might have been able to access the Ancestry one herself there.

Blinkin site has gone up the creek on me.!

Dont trust the ref numbers as they are smudgy and hard to read as well.

Want to see the image JC?

Well I have sent it anyway(I hope)
you know what my sending of things is like,a bit hit and miss really.

Blinkin site has gone up the creek on me.!

Editing cos of gremlins in the works.

Oh, well, that's interesting! I'd been wondering about variants of Kathleen too, of course.

FreeBMD has no Kennys at all. Its list for Q1 1919 births skips from Kenealy to Kennaird, at which point it shows a "possible gap in the data", and then skips again from Kennedy to Kenn_ford and Kennell, and then -- this is the bit that concerns us -- skips from Kennington to Kenrick.

Can you see the image at FMP??

I did just mean it as a *possible*, I hope I haven't got Clare's hopes up to dash them!

Oh, edit! FBG, really?? Farm out!!

Julie.

Good thinking.
It looks good on there as Kathleen Kenny (not Katherine as transcribed)and Mothers maiden name as Hurley..!

This is what it is all transcribed as

Name: KENNY, Katharine

Registration District: Greenwich

County: London

Year of Registration: 1919

Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar

Mother's Maiden Name: Fariss

Volume No: 1D

Page No: 1154


But I dont make mothers maiden name to be Fariss at all as it looks too much like Hurley,but maybe that just because I know it should be that?.