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19 Sep 2010 21:27 |
1871 England Census about John Everett Webb Name: John Everett Webb Age: 81 Estimated birth year: abt 1790 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Bourn Civil parish: Bourn Town: Bourn County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Registration district: Caxton Sub-registration district: Caxton ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household schedule number: 55 Household Members: Name Age John Everett Webb 81 Ann Cooper 39 >>>>> Daughter... widow James Cooper 13 Anne Cooper 9
address is caxton End and he is a pauper.
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19 Sep 2010 21:30 |
1861 England Census about John Webb Name: John Webb Age: 79 Estimated birth year: abt 1782 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Bourn, Cambridgeshire, England Civil parish: Bourn County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
View image Registration district: Caxton Sub-registration district: Caxton ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 39 Household Members: Name Age James Cooper 24 Ann Cooper 30 Kesiah Cooper 8 James Cooper 2 John Webb 79 >>>>>>>>>>Mary Carter 80
1851 England Census about John Webb Name: John Webb Age: 60 Estimated birth year: abt 1791 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Ann Webb Gender: Male Where born: Bourn, Cambridgeshire, England Civil parish: Bourn County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image Registration district: Caxton Sub-registration district: Caxton ED, institution, or vessel: 12b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 87 Household Members: Name Age John Webb 60 Ann Webb 60 John Carter 55 >>>>>>>Mary Carter 63
I wonder if this is the same lady on these census returns?
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Marie
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19 Sep 2010 21:33 |
Marriage certificate deffinatley states mother & father
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BatMansDaughter
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19 Sep 2010 21:34 |
The baptism and marriage records are from;
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=home
And I use ancestry for census returns.
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BatMansDaughter
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19 Sep 2010 21:35 |
Marie,
were did your William son of John Everitt marry?
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Astra
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19 Sep 2010 21:38 |
Can you tell us from the marriage cetificate please who the witnesses were and exactly what it says because it is the first time I have heard of one naming the mother as well as the father.
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Marie
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19 Sep 2010 21:38 |
Bourn, Cambridgeshire 16th November 1840
I don't think my family ever moved from Bourn :-)
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19 Sep 2010 21:47 |
i dont have it to hand at the moment but have the day off work tomorrow so will dig it out. From memory, and i'm not sure if my mind is playing tricks on me but i have a feeling that one of the witness's surnames states cooper.
I have got John jnr b:1790 father as John Webb who married Mary Everitt in 1786. not sure how true this is
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Astra
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19 Sep 2010 21:50 |
Just looking for the marriage but can't locate it. Tried the names and that didn't work and then brought up all the marriages for Caxton in December quarter 1840 but they aren't listed. Can you find it Dee?
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19 Sep 2010 21:54 |
Time for me to shut down for the night. Will catch up with any new developments tomorrow after work.
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19 Sep 2010 21:55 |
Here you go Hun;
Groom's Name: William Webb Groom's Birth Date: Groom's Birthplace: Groom's Age: Bride's Name: Sarah Fairey Bride's Birth Date: 1821 Bride's Birthplace: Bride's Age: 19 Marriage Date: 16 Nov 1840 Marriage Place: Bourn,Cambridge,England Groom's Father's Name: John Webb Groom's Mother's Name: Bride's Father's Name: Henry Fairey Bride's Mother's Name: Groom's Race: Groom's Marital Status: Groom's Previous Wife's Name: Bride's Race: Bride's Marital Status: Bride's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M13800-2 System Origin: England-ODM Source Film Number: 1040422 Reference Number: Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973
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Marie
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19 Sep 2010 22:03 |
That's it !! Thanks for all your help so far, i'm off to bed now but hope to catch up with you both tomorrow. I'm off all day tomorrow and think after tonight, I will be spending most of tomorrow looking at the tree findings.
hope to here from you again !!
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Marie
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20 Sep 2010 12:45 |
Hello
I'm back, thanks for all your help last night.
I've dug out the marriage certificate of William to Sarah Fairey and it doesnt say the mothers name of William like I thought it did. I don't know what made me think it had. Not to worry.
You wanted me to tell you the witnesses to the wedding, they were: Edward Webb which i'm guessing is Williams brother and Joseph Olsen. I dont know who this guy is.
Fathers on the certificate are: John Webb and Henry Fairey. Hope you can help me get back further !!
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Astra
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20 Sep 2010 13:24 |
Hi Marie. Thanks for the info much appreciated. Something you said about the 1841 confused me somewhat but i see now what you mean about his widowed mother living with him in 1841. She doesn't show on Ancestry until you look at the original image and when you perform a search for her she comes up as being in a different household. I assume the Mary Hills is John's Wife's mother.
Mary Webb Age: 75 Estimated birth year: abt 1766 Gender: Female Where born: Cambridgeshire, England Civil parish: Bourn Hundred: Longstow County/Island: Cambridgeshire Household Members: Name Age Mary Hills 85 Mary Webb 75
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20 Sep 2010 13:33 |
Let's summarise what we have so far. I think in my tired state last night I was getting my John's confused.
John Webb married Mary Everitt in 1786 Their son John Everitt Webb born 1790 married Ann Hills in 1813. Their Son William married Sarah Fairey in 1840
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Marie
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20 Sep 2010 13:43 |
Yes that's it
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20 Sep 2010 13:44 |
i wonder who this Mary Carter is. She is living with the family in the 1851 census & 1861???
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20 Sep 2010 13:57 |
A bit more detail (from the 1851 census) on the Carters
Name: Mary Carter Age: 63 Estimated birth year: abt 1788 Relation: Lodger Gender: Female Where born: Lory Stow, Cambridgeshire, England Civil parish: Bourn County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: Pauper
Condition as to marriage: Married
Disability: View image Registration district: Caxton Sub-registration district: Caxton ED, institution, or vessel: 12b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 87
Name: John Carter Age: 55 Estimated birth year: abt 1796 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Bourn, Cambridgeshire, England Civil parish: Bourn County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: Bricklayer's Labourer
Condition as to marriage: Married
Disability: View image Registration district: Caxton Sub-registration district: Caxton ED, institution, or vessel: 12b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 87
Mary in 1861
Name: Mary Carter Age: 80 Estimated birth year: abt 1781 Relation: Lodger Gender: Female Where born: Longston, Cambridgeshire, England Civil parish: Bourn County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: Cant Work
Condition as to marriage: Widow Registration district: Caxton Sub-registration district: Caxton ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 39
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20 Sep 2010 14:10 |
John and Mary in 1841? (Remember that ages were rounded down to mutliples of 5 in the 1841 census and no relationships given)
Name: John Carter Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1801 Gender: Male Where born: Cambridgeshire, England Civil parish: Bourn Hundred: Longstow County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Caxton Sub-registration district: Caxton Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Carter 40 Ag. Lab. Mary Carter 50 Elizabeth Carter 15 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 68; Book: 2; Civil Parish: Bourn; County: Cambridgeshire; Enumeration District: 13; Folio: 6; Page: 6; Line: 6; GSU roll: 241223
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20 Sep 2010 14:17 |
Elizabeth's christening - but no surname for Mary so not much help.
Name Elizabeth Carter Gender Female Baptism/Christening Date 26 Mar 1826 Baptism/Christening Place Bourn, Cambridge, England Birth Date Birthplace Death Date Name Note Race Father's Name John Carter Father's Birthplace Father's Age Mother's Name Mary Mother's Birthplace Mother's Age Indexing Project (Batch) Number I00476-1 System Origin England-EASy Source Film Number 1818369 Reference Number 40
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