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Hi Lorraine

Trying to trace my grandfather Walter Harold Britten (known as Harold) b. 4 may 1891 - Hampstead, London UK - rumoured gone to Canada in early 1920's folowing a misdemenor - occupation could be in dentistry - this is a long shot I know - any help would be appreciated

thanks, Pat

Hi Lorraine,


Thank You very much for the information regarding

John Edger Price

Much appreciate your help

Val

Val

have pmd the info to you as I havnt been on here for while

Lorraine

Hi Lorraine,

Please could you look for

U.S Veterans Gravesites,Ca.1775-2006 look up Please

John Edgar Price Jr b 28th March 1944 d 2004 Marion,Ohio

would it be possible to find his marriage to Elizabeth A (I think its Reece but i'm not to sure) he married on the 18th June 1966 in Ohio.

His parents are John E Price Sr 1918-1979 & Sylvia Sarah Ramage 1910-1991.

If you find any other information regarding this family I would be very gratefull


Many Thanks
Val

your welcome bernard glad to have helped

lorraine

martyn

You could contact new york public records office, now each state has it its own rules on what information they give out, but they may a lookup facility there whereby you could at least confirm if james did die in new york in 1924

the link below will take you to their page http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vitalrecords/death.shtml

if you do manage to get any more info please let me know and I will try to help further

lorraine

hi lorraine,
thank you for all your help,there is no one i can ask ,all i have is what i told you,the only thing that i keep going back to is the illegitamate daughter who came foward,as i know nothing of her this is going to be one of those line's that will very hard to sort.
i think it may be the wrong james,as his wife &children would have claimed his estate,
on his passenger listing he is down as a clerk,but that may not have been the truth,
it is so annoying to keep comming up against a brick wall,he will turn up one day,(i hope),do you know of any other record's i might try to look at,
do they do cemetry record's or anything like that.

martyn

martyn

I cannot find a marriage for jennie and james nor births of the children New York records are not yet fully transcribed online

familysearch.org have started transcribing new york deaths and marriages but are not complete and cannot find anything for the family.

Do you have anyone in Ireland who could confirm his date and place of death if he definatly died in 1924 then the james on the 1930 census is not right.

Lorraine

hi lorraine,
i only have that he took his own life in 1924 ,i have no idea why he did this ,it is this that keep's me looking for answer's,
is there any surname for jennie other than mangan,maybe i could look her up to see if i could out anything.
i know that ellis island, new york was mentioned,so i think that must be were he died,sorry i do not have any more info but the last elderly relative died a while ago,
anything at all you can find will be good as i may be able to find info from ireland.

martyn

Im not sure if he is the correct james as he is still alive in 1930 is there any possibility he could have died later than 1924, I cannot find a death for him around that year although not all records for USA are complete online.

But he is the only james I can find with the right year of birth in new york area

Lorraine

thank's for the census record's i will see if i can find out about jennie,
any other info you can find will be greatly appreciated.

Lorraine

Thanks for your help, that's great to have the info about his death.

Rgds

Jane

Martyn

Have found a possible for james on the 1920

1920 United States Federal Census
about James Mangan
Name: James Mangan
[Samie Mangan]
Home in 1920: Jersey City Ward 8, Hudson, New Jersey
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Birthplace: Ireland
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's Name: Jennie Mangan
Father's Birth Place: Ireland
Mother's Birth Place: Ireland
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of immigration: 1895
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Mangan 48
Jennie Mangan 49
Margaret Mangan 15
Andrew Mangan 14


wife also born ireland immigration year 1900
both children born new york
james occupation is apprentice machinist


and 1910

1910 United States Federal Census
about James Mongan
Name: James Mongan
[James Mangan]
Age in 1910: 38
Estimated Birth Year: 1872
Birthplace: Ireland
Relation to Head of House: Head
[Self (Head)]
Father's Birth Place: Ireland
Mother's Birth Place: Ireland
Spouse's Name: Jennie Mongan
Home in 1910: Manhattan Ward 12, New York, New York
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of immigration: 1895
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Mongan 38
Jennie Mongan 39
Margret Mongan 6
Andrew Mongan 5


it says they have been married for 7 years so approx 1903 she has had 3 children 2 have survived

will see if I can find a marriage or any more info on the children

the above james mangan is still alive in 1930, do you have any other info on his death could it have been later than 1924?

1930 United States Federal Census
about James Mangan
Name: James Mangan
Home in 1930: Jersey City, Hudson, New Jersey
View Map
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Birthplace: Northern Ireland
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Jennie Mangan
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Mangan 57
Jennie Mangan 58
Margaret Mangan 25
Andrew Mangan 24

chico

have found what i think is kathleen and harry visiting uk

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Kathleen Lee
Name: Kathleen Lee
Birth Date: abt 1898
Age: 39
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 1 Aug 1937
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Montreal
[Quebec]
Ship Name: Ausonia
Search Ship Database: View the 'Ausonia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Cunard White star
Official Number: 145970

harrys occupation is tinsmith
they have son robert aged 10
and are going to 12 ordinance terrace chatham kent


this time she is travelling alone going to same address as above

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Kathleen Lee
Name: Kathleen Lee
Birth Date: abt 1899
Age: 47
Port of Departure: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Arrival Date: 26 Jul 1946
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Halifax
Ship Name: Georgic
Search Ship Database: View the 'Georgic' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: The Cunard Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 162365

passenger lists to canada only go up to 1935 so i cant find them going back to canada

Jane

have managed to find his death

Name: George W Milnes
Titles & Terms:
Event: Death
Event Date: 08 Mar 1911
Event Place: New Bedford,,Massachusetts
Residence:
Street Address:
Gender: Male
Age: 40
Marital Status: Married
Occupation:
Birth Date: 21 Oct 1870
Birthplace: England
Estimated Birth Year:
Burial Date:
Burial Place:
Cemetery:
Father: George W
Father's Titles & Terms:
Father's Birthplace:
Mother:
Mother's Titles & Terms:
Mother's Birthplace:
Additional Relatives:
Spouse:
Volume/Page/Certificate Number: 15
Film Number: 2396047
Frame Number:
Digital Folder Number: 4283246
Image Number: 00542


its on familysearch .org which is free to use

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.2/9FL3-X72/p1

says he is married but no details of wife, if you use the link above you can view the image for his death cert

struggling to find him on a passenger list though

Thanks a lot, Lorraine.

I will have a go at writing to the person in the USA.
I suppose the other alternative is that Emile died.

I'm very grateful for your assistance.
Best wishes
Beverley

beverley

cant find any evidence of emile in usa or canada unfortuanlty

as for william according to a public tree on ancestry melissa died in 1913 her maiden name was stoner obviously this is what is on the tree not proven and there is one living child as the child is living no details are given says melissa died in missouri .

so we need to find the children of william and melissa if the william in missouri born india is right

i dont have access to missouri births and i cant find a marriage for melissa and william either sorry

I cant find anything for william or emile on a passenger list

Chrissie-

Thanks for posting that info.

I don't want to hijack Lorraine's thread, so maybe it's better if I PM you.

Thanks again Lorraine for your efforts. If you could find the immigration entry record for William it would be great, but please don't worry if it's too much to ask.

Beverley

fitzy

thanks will wait to here back from you

lorraine

Hi Lorraine

I don't know if he married or not and I am looking him up on the census, will come to you when I find him.

Rgds :-)