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do they add up, yer just about and sorry it is catherines side I am having trouble with
ARTHUR bn c 1890 death 1942 (same as john?)
Catherine Mary Usher bn 1891 death 1983 i know of three daughters my mum Kathleen Mary, Violet and Annie Rosetta, the 4th? it seems she was registered as Kate on the census's , dad was Francis Edward Usher bn c 1846 Ware dd 1901 married 1869 to Mary Ann Murphy bn 1854 or 1848 middx. Cant get Francis's birth cert but I think his dad was George Francis Usher married to Marrianne

Here's Arthur's birth:

Births Dec 1889
Rouse Arthur Marylebone 1a 553


The 2 children missing from your list are Mary's not Annie's.

Do the ages on the marriage and death certs match up?

I know of
frederick 1893
florence 1895
harold 1900
doris 1905-1937
annie 1885
charles 1887
dorothy alice 1898-1898
Arthur 1890

I would like to concentrate on Arthur, as he is my grandfather, and mystery goes onto another dimension, might be interesting for you this one, and I do have arthurs marriage and death certs, and i have been trying to get his birth cert with no luck, do you need more info

Daisy Louise is the oldest. Through her you have 2nd cousins in Kent.

John Joseph is next. We wont know if that marriage is his or his father's until the cert arrives.

Next is Annie - nothing on her yet.
Charles didnt survive infancy.

Next is Arthur, your grandfather.

Then Frederick George who we think married Ellen Kenison.

Next Florence

then Dorothy Alice who died.

Harold John next
then Doris.

Well John seems to have fathered 10 children, 2 of whom didn't survive. Do you know anything about the others?

Is Arthur's wife Catherine Mary Usher, married in 1914? Do you want us to work on her?

This her death?
Catherine Mary Cosby
Birth Date: 13 Sep 1890
Death Registration Month/Year: 1983
Registration district: Southend On Sea
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 9
Page: 3161

Four daughters born between 1916 and 1929

Mmmmmmm defo forward. Iknow of a poss hiccup in going this way that you will encounter. Arthurs wife is very mysterious and to be honest hasnt moved very far forward, but I rekon you two would love the challenge, but move forward with John please.

Ray,
Which way do you want this to move? John's siblings forwards or more generations backwards?

Back again. Preparing the food for Barbecue and have to keep coming and going.
Janice I can't find Mary in 1901. Did have a look earlier and just had another search but can't locate her. She is probably working somewhere as a servant and has been badly transcribed. She doesn't come up using her name or her birth place. Will have another look later.

numpty that i am just gone through and found them, will order.

Marriages Dec 1880
COSTEY John Joseph Newton A. 5b 261
Lofts Mary Newton A. 5b 261

Marriages Dec 1916
Cosby John J and Margaret Jones Greenwich 1d 1942


Name: John J Cosby
Death Registration Month/Year: 1942 june qtr
Age at death (estimated): 84
Registration district: Bury
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 592

They are all here in the postings I think. Will collect them up for you.

I will order the certs do i need any other info like page numbers etc.

Wow! So she didn't re-marry. Mind you, with John still alive she wasnt free to.

by the way have emailed Edward Smith

may be you have seen this,
1911 census
Alice Washford household there is a relative living with them
MARY COSLEY
married 31 years
bn 1859 Ousden Suffolk and had 2 children

1911 for Daisy. Yes she's there and she's still Cosley! On the original it is definitely Cosby.
Oh how sad. She says she has been married for 31 years had 2 children both of which are still living, I wonder if she ever knew how near she was to her wayward husband! I also wonder if John Joseph ever met any of his half brothers while he was in the army!


WASHFORD, Edward Head Married M 29 1882 Railway Guard Brabourne Kent VIEW
WASHFORD, Daisy Louise Wife Married
6 years F 28 1883 Ousden Suffolk VIEW
WASHFORD, Alice Louise Daughter F 6 1905 Lewisham Kent VIEW
WASHFORD, George Edward Son M 4 1907 Lewisham Kent VIEW
COSLEY, Mary Relative Married
31 years F 52 1859 Servant Domestic Ousden Suffolk VIEW

Registration District:
Strood Sub District:
Strood Enumeration District:
17 Parish:
Strood Intra

Address:
24 Gordon Road Strood Kent County:
Kent

Hi Ray,

E-mail first, explaining who you are interested in. You don't need to ask them to open their tree until you've established it's the right family. If it is, they'll probably offer.

The marriage cert for Mary Lofts and John in Newton Abbott in 1880

The marriage cert of John Joseph Cosby and Margaret Jones in 1916

and if you are feeling rich, the death cert of John Joseph Cosby in 1942.

:-))

you have blown me away. What do you want me to do? I will request permission to look at the family tree's, what certs do you want me to get?