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Rambling

Rambling Report 20 Aug 2010 16:04

Can't find a later marriage or death for Uriah over here, perhaps he returned to the US?

Rambling

Rambling Report 20 Aug 2010 15:58

the marriage was

Marriages Dec 1912 (>99%)

Tordoff Florence Allsopp Saddleworth 9a 573

so the timing would be about right

Rambling

Rambling Report 20 Aug 2010 15:57

snap lol

Rambling

Rambling Report 20 Aug 2010 15:57

?Name: Uriah Tordoff
Birth Date: abt 1903
Age: 9
Port of Departure: Boston, Massachusetts, United States
Arrival Date: 17 Jul 1912
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Franconia
Search Ship Database: View the 'Franconia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Cunard Line
Official Number: 131315

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 20 Aug 2010 15:55

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Uriah Tordoff
Name: Uriah Tordoff
Birth Date: abt 1903
Age: 9
Port of Departure: Boston, Massachusetts, United States
Arrival Date: 17 Jul 1912
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Franconia
Search Ship Database: View the 'Franconia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Cunard Line
Official Number: 131315
He's with Florence.

Maureen

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 20 Aug 2010 15:52

??
I'm getting confused!

Name: Wriah (Uriah)Tordoff
Age in 1910: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1903
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Relation to Head of House: Nephew
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Home in 1910: Providence Ward 2, Providence, Rhode Island
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry B Oneil 25
Mary L Oneil 36
Alice M Oneil 4
Edward Oneil 3
Beatrice M Oneil 10/12
Florence Tordoff 29 I think it says she's widowed
Wriah Tordoff 7
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Providence Ward 2, Providence, Rhode Island; Roll T624_1442; Page: 9A; Enumeration District: 160; Image: 19.

Maureen

Rambling

Rambling Report 20 Aug 2010 15:49

Doesn't appear to be a marriage over here, it's possible that the Buckleys are related but there's nothing to link them so far... the name is quite common in Saddleworth area it seems.

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 20 Aug 2010 15:44

Unless they've moved it-Rhode Island is a state unto itself. And not terribly near Pennsylvania.

Maureen

Jayne

Jayne Report 20 Aug 2010 15:41

Any idea when Florry went to USA and whether she married Tordoff in England first ? I keep hitting a brick wall with her between 1901 and when she returns in 1912.

Rambling

Rambling Report 20 Aug 2010 15:38

this is Florrie in the 1891

1891 England Census
about John E Buckley
Name: John E Buckley
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Seville
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Saddleworth, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Saddleworth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Delph
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Saddleworth
Sub-registration district: Delph
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Seville Buckley 45
Mary Buckley 48
Fred S Mipench 24
John E Buckley 18
Ben F Buckley 17
Mary L Buckley 13
Florrie Buckley 10
Janet Buckley 8


Jayne

Jayne Report 20 Aug 2010 15:11

..and how did they afford it ?? They worked in woollen mills in the vvillages ?

Jayne

Jayne Report 20 Aug 2010 15:10

So cousin Lillie really was Cousin Lillie afterall.

What is really coincidental is that Lillie Farr lived next door to Florence (Florrie/Florry) Buckley b 1881 in 1901 census in Delph Saddleworth.
Florry Buckley also travelled to USA around similar time and became Florence Tordoff. She had a son in USA name of Tordoff in 1903 but then we know she left him in USA and travelled back to England in 1912 and married my great grandfather Fred Allsopp.
Any idea who the child was or why she came back when she did ? I know for a fact that she went to Rhode Island Penns. How bizarre that both sets of my maternal great grandmother travelled to Pennsylvania ?? Coincidental ? I was never aware of any connections between the two families nor was my mum .

Rambling

Rambling Report 20 Aug 2010 14:54

This is 'probably' the marriage of George and Elizabeth, if you wanted to trace further at some point Jayne :)

Marriages Jun 1867 (>99%)

Farr George Newport Pagnell 3a 753
Sinfield Elizabeth Newport P. 3a 753


Jayne

Jayne Report 20 Aug 2010 14:29

Wow - you are all amzing- this is like the best book Ive ever read !! The pennsylvania connection is bizarre as my mums paternal grandmothe went to Rhode Island at the same time..but thats another mystery for another day ha ha .

Rambling

Rambling Report 20 Aug 2010 14:26

That ties that bit up nicely then Maureen :)

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 20 Aug 2010 14:22

Name: Margaret Buckley
Home in 1900: Philadelphia Ward 21, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Age: 32
Birth Date: May 1868
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1895
Relationship to Head of House: Wife
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Mother: number of living children: 2
Mother: How many children: 2
Spouse's name: William
Marriage Year: 1888
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 12

Household Members:
Name Age
William Buckley 40 Occ:Stove moulder
Margaret Buckley 32
Joseph Buckley 4
Elizabeth Buckley 2
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Philadelphia Ward 21, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Page: 5A; Enumeration District: 447.

Maureen

Rambling

Rambling Report 20 Aug 2010 14:19

Jayne, if you read back all the answers are here :) ( work from your original post forward and it will make sense )

Jayne

Jayne Report 20 Aug 2010 14:18

Sorry its taken so long to get back on - my husband hijacked the laptop !
I will tell you what I know for sure then perhaps we can fill in the gaps...here goes

My grandmother was Lillie Sheldon. Her mother was Lillie Farr who married William Ernest Sheldon in 1912.

Lillie Farr was born in 1881 to George Farr b 1848 and Elizabeth Farr 1849.

They had 4 children ..Lillie, Mary E Farr b 1877 Joseph Farr b 1871 and Margaret b 1869.

At some point George died and Elizabeth married a Thomas Priest . In 1911 census Lillie Farr is lstill iving with them in Delph but also living with them is a ten year old Lillie Lockwood - named as grandaughter. It states on census she was born in USA. My mum says that Lillie Lockwood was always referred to as Cousin Lillie by my grandma.
I wondered if Lillie Lockwood was Lillie Farrs daughter or daughter of one of her sisters ? and was puzzled by USA birth . Thanks everyone for your help. My mum is terminally ill and I would love to clear some of the puzzles in our family tree whilst she is still here to discuss it with .

Rambling

Rambling Report 20 Aug 2010 14:04

looks like James married Lucy Ann as they are in saddleworth 1891

so William Buckley and Margaret

Rambling

Rambling Report 20 Aug 2010 14:01

Not sure which Buckley married the eldest Farr daughter...