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I wonder if this is Gobbriet.

An Italian speaking to an English ear may not have heard it right.

1901 Address: 57, Middle Road, Dewsbury
VERDONI, Gabriel Head Married M 37 1864 Organ Grinder Italy
VERDONI, Johanna Wife Married F 36 1865 Italy
VERDONI, Peter Son Single M 13 1888 Italy
VERDONI, Mary Daughter Single F 10 1891
Huddersfield, Yorkshire
VERDONI, Felemina Daughter Single F 5 1896
Dewsbury, Yorkshire VIEW
VERDONI, Angelina Daughter Single F 1 1900
Dewsbury, Yorkshire VIEW
GARRY, Antonio Boarder Widower M 64 1837 Organ Grinder
Italy VIEW
GARRY, Lawrence Boarder Single M 16 1885 Bradford, Yorkshire
VERRICIA, Fedelo Boarder Married M 27 1874 Organ Grinder Italy
VERRICIA, Johanno Boarder Married F 25 1876 Italy
VERRICIA, Donardo Boarder Single F 4 1897 Italy
VERRICIA JR, Ferdinando Boarder Married M 26 1875 Organ Grinder Italy

info on marraige certificate
dominic martin 1 ingham road dewsbury west yorkshire
catherine sweeney 11 middle road dewsbury west yorkshire

dominic was down as a coal minor
witnesses were
bessie hooley
gobbriet verdoni

Ann, LK already posted that above. :-)

????

Dominic Martin
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1885 Leeds,? Yorkshire
census: 31 Mar 1901 West Bromwich,? Staffordshire,? England


name: Dominic Martin
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 16
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Leeds, Yorkshire
record type: Household
registration district: West Bromwich
sub-district: West Bromwich South-West
ecclesiastical parish: St John The Evangelist
civil parish: West Bromwich
county: Staffordshire

ladykira

1911 census dominik martin and kate
children attilio etc that is the correct family to mer
i can not understand why any information been deleted
still looking for marraige certificate for witneses names
once again thank you so much donna

Name: Dominick Martin
Gender: Male
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Date of Arrival: 5 Jun 1920
Vessel: Canada
Search Ship Database: View the 'Canada' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-14705
May not be your man as he is described as Irish and a labourer.
BUT: On his entry form he states that he is going to his COUSIN, Miss M Sweeney who lives in Montreal.

This Mary Sweeney was born Dewsbury:

Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924
about Mary Sweeney Name: Mary Sweeney
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Birth Place: Dewsbury, England
Age: 27
Date of Arrival: 22 Apr 1920
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Melita

She gives name of nearest relative as Nellie Sweeney, 45 Berwick St., Bradford.


Marriages Mar 1925
Martin Atillio Roebuck Wakefield 9c 59
Roebuck Florence A Martin Wakefield 9c 59

Marriages Sep 1927
Dobson James R Martin Wakefield 9c 172
Martin Catherine Dobson Wakefield 9c 172

Marriages Dec 1928
Martin Edward Parkin Wakefield 9c 128
PARKIN Hannah E Martin Wakefield 9c 128






England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006 about Attilio Martin
Name: Attilio Martin
Birth Date: abt 1904
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1955
Age at Death: 51
Registration district: Lower Agbrigg
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 2c
Page: 604



I wonder if Panta Lee is Pantelleria? I cannot find the other places mentioned in Italy.
There are several possibles for Dominic in Canada/USA but our guy seems to change his place of birth,

I think you need some certificates to prove this. There is a Dominic who marries an Anne in Birmingham but his age is out so probably not yours.

1891 Address: North Gate, Pontefract
MARTIN, Peter Head Married M 38 1853 Ice Cream Vendor Hompeen Italy
MARTIN, Ming Wife Married F 42 1849 Panta Lee Italy
MARTIN, Dominic Son Single M 6 1885 Scholar Leeds Yorkshire
MARTIN, Mary Daughter Single F 3 1888 Leeds Yorkshire
MARTIN, Caroline Daughter Single F 1 1890 Leeds Yorkshire
MARTIN, Louis Son Single M 0 (6M) 1891 Pontefract Yorkshire
LELIER, Juan Boarder Single M 20 1871 Ice Cream Vendor Penta Lee Italy
VALAN, Joseph Boarder Single M 45 1846 Ice Cream Vendor Careen Italy
VALAN, Juan Boarder Single M 15 1876 Ice Cream Vendor Careen Italy

I cannot find a death for Ming.

Marriages Mar 1893
Connor Elizabeth Dewsbury 9b 741
Sweeney Patrick Dewsbury 9b 741

Births Dec 1893
Sweeney Mary Dewsbury 9b 652

Births Dec 1898
MARTIN Theresa Leeds 9b 447

Births Sep 1897
Sweeney John Dewsbury 9b 698

Deaths Sep 1900
Sweeney Elizabeth 29 Dewsbury 9b 415

1901 Address: 61, Moor Street, West Bromwich
MARTIN, Peter Head Married M 40 1861 Blacksmith's Striker Italy (British Subject)
MARTIN, Charlotte Wife Married F 28 1873 W Bromwich Staffordshire
MARTIN, Dominic Son Single M 16 1885 Errand Boy (At Safe Works) Leeds Yorkshire
MARTIN, Mary Daughter F 13 1888 Leeds Yorkshire
MARTIN, Carrie Daughter F 11 1890 Leeds Yorkshire
MARTIN, Richard Son M 6 1895 Pontefract Yorkshire
MARTIN, Francis Son M 4 1897 Barnsley Yorkshire
MARTIN, Tresa Daughter F 2 1899 Leeds Yorkshire
MARTIN, Antony Son M 0 (10 MOS) 1901 W Bromwich Staffordshire
(This one matches 1891 census above)

(This is also possible for Dominic)
1901 Address: 37, Shambles Street, Barnsley
FANTOZZI, Thos Head Married M 24 1877 Ice Cream Merchant Itlain
FANTOZZI, Maria Wife Married F 22 1879 Itlain
SALVETA, Fred Boarder Single M 22 1879 Hawk Itlain
SALVETA, Anthony Boarder Single M 18 1883 Hawk Leeds Itlain Subj
CAVAISLI, Thomas Servant Single M 19 1882 Hawk Itlain
BOVO, Fred Servant Single M 20 1881 Hawk Itlain
MARTIN, Dominick Boarder Single M 19 1882 Plate Layer Itlain



1901 Address: 41, Middle Road Low Fold, Dewsbury
SWEENEY, Patrick Head Widower M 49 1852 Machine Card Cleaner Ireland
SWEENEY, Kate Daughter Single F 17 1884 Spice Worker N K Yorkshire
SWEENEY, Mary Daughter Single F 8 1893 N K Yorkshire
SWEENEY, John Son Single M 3 1898 N K Yorkshire
COOPER, Anthony Brother-In-Law Single M 39 1862 Mason's Labourer N K Yorkshire
CONNOR, Ellen Boarder Single F 38 1863 Woollen Machine Feeder N K Yorkshire
(may be related to Patricks first wife?)

Marriages Jun 1902
Martin Dominick Dewsbury 9b 1174
Sweeney Catherine Dewsbury 9b 1174

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Lewis Martin
Name: Lewis Martin
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1902
Registration district: Wakefield
Inferred County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9c

Births Mar 1904
MARTIN Attilio Wakefield 9c 59

Births Jun 1907
MARTIN Edward Wakefield 9c 64

Births Mar 1910
MARTIN Maria Wakefield 9c 49


1911 Address: 51 Rodney Yard
MARTIN, Dominic Head Married M 28 1883 Organ Grinder Italy Resident in Thiscounty
MARTIN, Kate Wife Married
9 years F 27 1884 Yorkshire Dewsbury
MARTIN, Louis Son M 8 1903 Yorkshire Wakefield
MARTIN, Stilla Son M 7 1904 Yorkshire Wakefield
MARTIN, Edward Son M 3 1908 Yorkshire Wakefield
MARTIN, Maria Daughter F 1 1910 Yorkshire Wakefield
SWEENEY, John Brother In Law M 14 1897 Helps With Organ Yorkshire Dewsbury
SWEENEY, Mary Sister-In-Law Single F 17 1894 Box-Maker Yorkshire Dewsbury
HOPKINS, Michael Cousin Single M 22 1889 Organ Grinder Yorkshire Dewsbury
SENIOR, Joshua Boarder Single M 44 1867 Organ Grinder Yorkshire Wakefd

1911 Address: 61 Moor St West Bromwich
MARTIN, Peter Head Married M 55 1856 Labourer Rome Italy
MARTIN, Charlotte Wife Married 17 years F 37 1874 At Home West Bromwich Staffs
MARTIN, Mary Daughter Single F 23 1888 Rule Maker West Bromwich Staffs
MARTIN, Richard Son M 16 1895 Coil Learning Spring Making West Bromwich Staffs
MARTIN, Francis Son M 14 1897 Coil Learning Spring Making West Bromwich Staffs
MARTIN, Teresa Daughter F 12 1899 School West Bromwich Staffs
MARTIN, Antony Son M 10 1901 West Bromwich Staffs
MARTIN, Annie Daughter F 9 1902 West Bromwich Staffs
MARTIN, Frank Son M 6 1905 West Bromwich Staffs
MARTIN, Joseph Son M 4 1907 West Bromwich Staffs



Births Jun 1912
Martin Corleana Sweeney Wakefield 9c 58

I have tried to assemble most of the information into a time line.
I am certain some of the original stuff has been deleted as the flow is not right.

I will post in several blocks.


Possible for Bridget first wife of Patrick Sweeney.
1871 Address: (Williamson's Fold), Dewsbury
COX, Patrick Head M 40 1831 Ireland
COX, Ann Wife F 45 1826 Ireland
COX, Bridget Daughter F 16 1855 Yorkshire
COX, Ann Daughter F 15 1856 Yorkshire

1871 Address: High Street, Dewsbury
COOPER, James Head M 50 1821 Yorkshire
COOPER, Mary Wife F 42 1829 Yorkshire
SWEENEY, Patrick Son M 19 1852 Yorkshire
SWEENEY, Bridget Daughter F 17 1854 Yorkshire
SWEENEY, Catharine Daughter F 15 1856 Yorkshire
SWEENEY, Mary Daughter F 13 1858 Yorkshire
SWEENEY, Michael P Son M 8 1863 Yorkshire
COOPER, Terance Son M 1 1870 Yorkshire

Marriages Mar 1874
Cox Bridget Dewsbury 9b 874
SWEENEY Patrick Dewsbury 9b 874


1881 Address: Ingham Rd, Dewsbury
MCLOUGHLIN, Catherine Head Widow F 61 1820 House KeeperIreland
MCLOUGHLIN, James Thomas Son Widower M 36 1845 Coal MinerIreland
SWEENEY, Patrick Boarder Married M 28 1853 Woolen Machine FeederIreland
SWEENEY, Bridget Boarder Married F 26 1855 Woollen Machine FeederIreland


Kate birth
Births Sep 1883
SWEENEY Catherine Dewsbury 9b 667

Deaths Mar 1891
Sweeney Bridget 30 Dewsbury 9b [56]14

I cannot find Patrick or Kate in 1891 but if Bridget died that spring is it possible he took her back to Ireland?


1881 Address: Ingham Rd, Dewsbury
MCLOUGHLIN, Catherine Head Widow F 61 1820 House KeeperIreland
MCLOUGHLIN, James Thomas Son Widower M 36 1845 Coal MinerIreland
SWEENEY, Patrick Boarder Married M 28 1853 Woolen Machine FeederIreland
SWEENEY, Bridget Boarder Married F 26 1855 Woollen Machine FeederIreland


Kate birth
Births Sep 1883
SWEENEY Catherine Dewsbury 9b 667

Deaths Mar 1891
Sweeney Bridget 30 Dewsbury 9b [56]14

I cannot find Patrick or Kate in 1891 but if Bridget died that spring is it possible he took her back to Ireland?



1891 Address: North Gate, Pontefract
MARTIN, Peter Head Married M 38 1853 Ice Cream Vendor Hompeen Italy
MARTIN, Ming Wife Married F 42 1849 Panta Lee Italy
MARTIN, Dominic Son Single M 6 1885 Scholar Leeds Yorkshire
MARTIN, Mary Daughter Single F 3 1888 Leeds Yorkshire
MARTIN, Caroline Daughter Single F 1 1890 Leeds Yorkshire
MARTIN, Louis Son Single M 0 (6M) 1891 Pontefract Yorkshire
LELIER, Juan Boarder Single M 20 1871 Ice Cream Vendor Penta Lee Italy
VALAN, Joseph Boarder Single M 45 1846 Ice Cream Vendor Careen Italy
VALAN, Juan Boarder Single M 15 1876 Ice Cream Vendor Careen Italy

I cannot find a death for Ming.

Marriages Mar 1893
Connor Elizabeth Dewsbury 9b 741
Sweeney Patrick Dewsbury 9b 741

No, it isn't, Donna. To delete a thread simply delete your first post on that thread.

the thread mosley is now deleted thanks

thank you so much ann
kind regards
donna

the one posted by "mosley" can be deleted now as there is no info on it

shall I gather the info from the other two threads and c & p them on here?
Donna can then delete those two postings

Perhaps your cousin is mistaken? ;-)

Let us know when you've got the info ....

thank you marieceleste for that

my couison told me this info on dob but wen i did it it was 1883 i just thought i had got it wrong,
i have not found my certificate for him yet but as soon as i do i will add all info on here
kind regards
donna

Donna, as I said in my message to you, don't be put off when we throw questions at you!

What I'm puzzled about is how you're pretty sure that Dominic was born in 1891?

All the census info, and possible birth records, show him as born circa 1883. Do you have some additional info?

What is his age on his marriage certificate?

pm from Donna (I've advised about replying on here and also about the My Threads link).

"just found my messages, i think he was born 1891 pretty sure of that, he was married to kate sweeney and he did abonden her, both mary and dominic stated that they were cousions and yes you are right mary went first and dominic followed later, i have the marriage certificate that states his origion italy and father the same, i have had info before about leeds and i will do some more work on that just to be on safe side, i really do appreciate all the work you do i cannot believe that there are people like you out there that help like you do, i am trying my best to do reasearch and i love it, but with ......... to look after i find it difficult"

(I've edited personal info very slightly)

Donna - I would like to help but quite honestly I do not know where to start at the moment - I can see that you have got yourself into a bit of a mess with this but can also see that it was not intentional!

Do as LK says and contact support to see if they can help.

If not, then we need to try to take all the relevant info from the threads, add it to one, and then mark the other two so that no further posts get added.

Once we have all the info together, we can then move forward and try to help you.

Don't panic and don't give up !! - see what the support team says.

Dea Xxx

ann cardiff i do apologise if you look at my messages it does state that i have messed this up and i am trying to sort it i am still a novice at this and i am doing my best thank you very much ladykira if anybody can tell me how to do this i would very much appreciate it then i do not upset anybody by having too many threads thats the last thing i want when you are all trying to help me kind regards donna x

Penny see http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/martin/thread/1203970