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Looking for info on Susan Smith b.1808. Lived in St. Martin at Oak, Norwich,Coslany, Norfolk. Maiden name unknown, Married to John Smith b. 1808 I would appreciate more info.Son James b.1837 my gt grandfather.

Possible marriages ???

Groom's Name: John Smith
Bride's Name: Susan West:
Marriage Date: 18 Feb 1834
Marriage Place: Norwich, Norfolk, England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02401-6
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1471101
Reference Number: 65
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Groom's Name: John Smith
Bride's Name: Susan Pomfrey
Marriage Date: 10 Apr 1833
Marriage Place: Norwich, Norfolk, England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02370-6
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1471100
Reference Number: 61
Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973

Groom's Name: John Smith
Bride's Name: Susan Parker
Marriage Date: 29 Oct 1823
Marriage Place: Norwich, Norfolk, England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03664-1
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1470974
Reference Number: 25
Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973

This could be James' marriage ???

Groom's Name: James Smith
Groom's Birth Date: 1837
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 24
Bride's Name: Elisabeth Allen Scott
Bride's Birth Date: 1833
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 28
Marriage Date: 03 Feb 1861
Marriage Place: Wymondham, Norfolk, England
Groom's Father's Name: John Smith
Bride's Father's Name: William Scott
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I07512-0
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1911512
Reference Number: p 22
Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973

possible birth ???

Name: James Smith
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 11 Nov 1838
Baptism/Christening Place: St. Martin at Oak, Norwich, Norfolk, England
Father's Name: John Smith
Mother's Name: Susan
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I07371-5
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1526321
Reference Number: p 93
Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973

My James Smith married Kezia Ann Abraham from Olney Buckinghamshire date unknown and moved to West Yorkshire. Their children were born in Burnley, Lancashire and Huddersfield W. Yorkshire1868-1879.
Could anyone please find the date of marriage for JamesSmith b.1837 Hockering Norfolk, lived in Norwich,1841, and Kezia Ann Abraham b. 1835 Olney Bucking hamshire

Oh for pity's sake.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1234166

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1234498

Any other threads about the same people, with any other guesses about their identities, that anyone should be averted to?


"Now I would like to find out if it was Susan West or Susan Parker who married John Smith According to the 1841 census she was born in 1808"

Oh you would, would you?

And anyone who has tried to help you already without the least please or thank you would care ... why?

"My James Smith married Kezia Ann Abraham from Olney Buckinghamshire date unknown and moved to West Yorkshire. Their children were born in Burney, Lancashire and Huddersfield W. Yorkshire1868-1879."

No they weren't.


1871

James Smith 35
Kezia A Smith 36
Kezia A Smith 11
Alice Smith 7
Florence Smith 5
Fred Smith 2
Lilly Smith 8 months

Unless the children born before Fred were not children of the couple.

Nope. Here they are in 1861.

Civil parish: Hipperholme With Brighouse
County/Island: Yorkshire
Thomas Smith 47
Ellen Augusta Smith 23
Mary Ann Dawson 26
Betsy Noble 24
> James Smith 24
> Kezia Ann Smith 26
> Kezia Ann Smith 1


The quality of your information is rather poor.

The 1861 list you show is not correct. The children were
Kezia 1860
Alice1864
Florence1866
Fred1868
GeorgeA1877
Albert E1879

Excuse me?

The 1861 list shows only Kezia, aged 1, as shown in your list.

The 1871 list shows Kezia, Alice, Florence, Fred and Lily.

If that information is incorrect, it's because your ancestors reported incorrect information.

YOUR list appears to be incorrect. You are missing Lily. Perhaps she died in infancy.

Obviously, an 1871 census list does not show children born after 1871. DUH.

Now, what I was responding to was what you said:

"My James Smith married Kezia Ann Abraham from Olney Buckinghamshire date unknown and moved to West Yorkshire. Their children were born in Burney, Lancashire and Huddersfield W. Yorkshire1868-1879."

And as I said: No. Their children were not born 1868-1879. They were born starting in about 1860. As you evidently knew, but decided to say something different anyway.

You're welcome.

Well DUH to you too I t is very late at night here and it was not done on purpose as you apparently want to accuse me of. Lily was born 1870 and I am not trying to play games, just trying to get information
Thank you for the help. It is appreciated

Thank you for the baptism date of James Smith-1837parish St. Martin at Oak, Norwich Coslany, Norfolk Could the actual birth date be found please or did they baptize them as soon as born? I don't know the procedure in the 1800's

Thank you for the list of family. It reinforces the info that I had and clarifies the birthplace of some which I could not read correctly on the original census images

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Husband
John SMITH Pedigree


Birth:
Christening:
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Wife
Susannah or Susan DYE Pedigree


Birth: 1808 Of, Norwich, Norfolk, England
Christening:
Marriage: 02 SEP 1827 St Martin At Oak, Norwich, Norfolk, England
Death: 07 JUL 1847 St Martin At Oak, Norwich, Norfolk, England
Burial:





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Children

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1. Charlotte SMYTH Pedigree
Female

Birth: 21 JUL 1829 Norwich, Norfolk, England
Christening: 26 JUL 1829 St Martin At Oak, Norwich, Norfolk, England
Death:
Burial:



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2. Sarah SMITH Pedigree
Female

Birth:
Christening: 07 AUG 1831 St Martin At Oak, Norwich, Norfolk, England
Death:
Burial:



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3. Charlotte SMITH Pedigree
Female

Birth: 25 APR 1832 Norwich, Norfolk, England
Christening: 13 MAY 1832 St Martin At Oak, Norwich, Norfolk, England
Death:
Burial:



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4. Lydia Mary Ann SMITH Pedigree
Female

Birth: 04 MAR 1834 Norwich, Norfolk, England
Christening: 09 MAR 1834 St Martin At Oak, Norwich, Norfolk, England
Death:
Burial:



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5. John SMITH Pedigree
Male

Birth: 01 JUL 1835 Norwich, Norfolk, England
Christening: 05 JUL 1835 St Martin At Oak, Norwich, Norfolk, England
Death:
Burial:



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6. Henry SMITH Pedigree
Male

Birth: 02 JUN 1837 Norwich, Norfolk, England
Christening: 04 JUN 1837 St Martin At Oak, Norwich, Norfolk, England
Death:
Burial:



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7. James SMITH Pedigree
Male

Birth: About 1839 Norwich, Norfolk, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:



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8. Robert SMITH Pedigree
Male

Birth: 31 AUG 1840 Norwich, Norfolk, England
Christening: 27 SEP 1840 St Martin At Oak, Norwich, Norfolk, England
Death:
Burial:



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9. Elizabeth SMITH Pedigree
Female

Birth: 21 DEC 1843 Norwich, Norfolk, England
Christening: 03 MAY 1846 St Martin At Oak, Norwich, Norfolk, England
Death:
Burial:



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10. Mary Ann SMITH Pedigree
Female

Birth: 03 DEC 1845 Norwich, Norfolk, England
Christening: 03 MAY 1846 St Martin At Oak, Norwich, Norfolk, England
Death:
Burial: 21 MAR 1894 Norwich, Norfolk, England

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SUSANNAH SMITH Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth: 30 NOV 1827

Christening: 03 DEC 1827 Calvert Street-Wesleyan, Norwich, Norfolk, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JOHN SMITH Family
Mother: SUSANNAH DYE


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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1851 census
Lydia and Elizabeth are wit their Grandmother Lydia Dye and their aunt
Lydia
Name: Elizabeth Smith
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Norwich, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Norwich St Martin At Oak
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Norwich
Sub-registration district: Coslany
ED, institution, or vessel: 3b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 173
Household Members: Name Age
Francis Horbert 36
Lydia Horbert 36
Lydia Dye 69
Lydia Smith 18
Elizabeth Smith 8

Thank you Barbara, The puzzle is getting closer to completion. I suppose that the writing on the census formscauses a difference for birth. For James It might be hard to distinguish a 7 from a 9 in 1837 or 1839By subtracting his age from the census year, I had assumed he was born 1837

Hi Alan
You will find that most ages are out by at least 1 to 2 years and sometimes a lot more.

I think the Dye connection is proved by the information on the census of 1851

Good luck with your research
Regards
Barbara

Could someone please see if they can find parents of John Smith b. 1808 so I can get back one more generation. They possibly lived in Norwich proper or surrounding area. Diss, Bawdswell, or Pentney for example. He may have had a brother Thomas

Thank you Barbara, I too, think the Dye connection is verified