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♥Julia♥

♥Julia♥ Report 8 Aug 2010 19:31

1871 England Census
about Eleanor Lawrence Gill
Name: Eleanor Lawrence Gill
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Robert Preston
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Ashton Upon Mersey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration district: Altrincham
Sub-registration district: Altrincham
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Preston Gill 52 - Wine & Spirit Merchant
Eleanor Lawrence Gill 30
Robe Preston Gill 9
Herbert Simpson Gill 7
Wm Preston Gill 5
Eleanor Simpson Gill 3
George Penny 40 )
Mary Davies 39 )
Jessie Johnson 28 )
Sarah Allen 40 ) All servants
Harriet Gregory 21 )
Salome Whittaker 30 )
Elizabeth Harksworth 19 )

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3683; Folio: 105; Page: 8; GSU roll: 841872

♥Julia♥

♥Julia♥ Report 8 Aug 2010 19:27

In 1851 JT's occupation is listed as Merchant and in 1861, retired merchant

Peter

Peter Report 8 Aug 2010 19:25

Julia thank you so much! Your helpreally is appreciated! I need to dash out but don't fear, I will definitley be back, and looking forward to find out more!

Thank you again!

Peter

Peter Report 8 Aug 2010 19:24

Wow Julia you are doing great! Phillis is a bit of mystery but I am interested to see she died at 95! That must almost doule the national average in 1906?!

I have just looked on the Pilot Scheme on IGI and yes the marriage of her daughter to Robert Preston Gill is correct! This seems to be her death!

Deaths Sep 1915 (>99%)
Gill Eleanor L 74 Chester 8a 354 Scan available - click to view

What a leap for her, when her own grandfather died in the Workhouse in 1862! I wonder if this was perhaps kept a secret?

I've just looked at the 1881 on ancestry; the son is at Cambridge! And all of those staff! That is a very affulent family?1

What was Philis' husband's occupation? Perhaps that helped bridge Eleanor's movement into the upper classes which she seems to have done! This must be quite an unusal story.

I know I have asked for a lot of help today, but can you, or someone else perhaps look for Eleanor and her family in 1871, 1891, 1901 and 1911?! I am very excited by this! Family history never ceases to amaze me!!!!!

♥Julia♥

♥Julia♥ Report 8 Aug 2010 19:11

I think this is her daughters marriage

Marriages Jun 1861

Gill Robert Preston Gt Boughton 8a 497
Simpson Eleanor Lawrence Gt. Boughton 8a 497

If so, she married well

1881 England Census
about Robert P. Gill
Name: Robert P. Gill
Age: 62
Estimated birth year: abt 1819
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Eleanor L.
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester

Civil parish: Ashton Upon Mersey
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address: Wood Heys Hall
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Justice Of Peace & Wine Merchant

Registration district: Altrincham
Sub-registration district: Altrincham
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert P. Gill 62
Eleanor L. Gill 40
Robert P. Gill 19
Eleanor S. Gill 13
William Gibson 44 )
Jane Dobinson 53 )
Hannah Jenkinson 39 )
Eliza Sneath 36 ) All servants
Maria Thomas 20 )
Elizabeth Hawksworth 29 )
Louisa Radford 33 )

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3504; Folio: 129; Page: 3; GSU roll: 1341840

♥Julia♥

♥Julia♥ Report 8 Aug 2010 19:06

Possible death, if it is her, whoever registered knew her correct age at least!!!!

Name: Phyllis Simpson
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Year of Registration: 1906
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 95
District: Chester
County: Cheshire, Flintshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 243

Peter

Peter Report 8 Aug 2010 19:06

Hello Julia, and wow, thank you!

This seems to be Philis' husbands death:

Deaths Mar 1866 (>99%)
SIMPSON John T 67 Gt Boughton 8a 291 Scan available - click to view

Also, was she just vain? I mean, in regards to her age?

Philis' was a farmer's daughter, whose father died in the workhouse, so I am curious to see her husband's occupation, especially as he and she seem to be living constantly with three servants!

♥Julia♥

♥Julia♥ Report 8 Aug 2010 19:03

1901 England Census
about Philis Simpson
Name: Philis Simpson
Age: 79
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Nantwich, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Farndon
Ecclesiastical parish: Farndon
Town: Farndon
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Registration district: Chester
Sub-registration district: Tattenhall
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 38
Household Members: Name Age
Philis Simpson 79
Martha E Davies 28 - Servant
Sarah Jane Essam 28 - Servant
Elizabeth Rowson 18 - Servant

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3365; Folio: 28; Page: 8

Living on own means

♥Julia♥

♥Julia♥ Report 8 Aug 2010 19:00

Same person in 1891, living on own means, same address as 1881

1891 England Census
about Philis Simpson
Name: Philis Simpson
Age: 69
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Nantwich, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Farndon
Ecclesiastical parish: Farndon
Town: Farndon
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Registration district: Chester
Sub-registration district: Tattenhall
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Philis Simpson 69
Elizabeth Edwardson 45 - Servant
Mary Thomas 22 - Servant

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2859; Folio 23; Page 1; GSU roll: 6097969

♥Julia♥

♥Julia♥ Report 8 Aug 2010 18:56

Possible, she's cagey with her age!!!!!

1881 England Census
about Phillis Simpson
Name: Phillis Simpson
Age: 59
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Wrenbury, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Farndon
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address: Riverside Back
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)

Occupation: Annuitant

Registration district: Chester
Sub-registration district: Tattenhall
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Phillis Simpson 59
William Judd 30 - Servant
Sophia Judd 30- Servant
Emma Worley 21 - Servant

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3552; Folio: 30; Page: 17; GSU roll: 1341850

♥Julia♥

♥Julia♥ Report 8 Aug 2010 18:47

1871 England Census
about Phillis Simpson
Name: Phillis Simpson
Age: 56
Estimated birth year: abt 1815
Relation: Head - Widow
Gender: Female
Where born: Wrenbury, Cheshire, England
Civil parish: Farndon
Town: Farndon
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration district: Chester
Sub-registration district: Tattenhall
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
Phillis Simpson 56
Jane Morris 32 - Servant
Eliza Caldnote 28 - Servant

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3717; Folio: 26; Page: 1; GSU roll: 842125

♥Julia♥

♥Julia♥ Report 8 Aug 2010 18:45

1861 England Census
about Phillis Simpson
Name: Phillis Simpson
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Wrenbury, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Farndon
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Registration district: Great Boughton
Sub-registration district: Tattenhall
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
John Thomas Simpson 61
Phillis Simpson 45
Eleanor Simpson 20
Eizat Mostyn 24 - Servant
Catherine Williams 22 - Servant
Hugh Jones 21 - Servant

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2624; Folio: 23; Page: 4; GSU roll: 543001

♥Julia♥

♥Julia♥ Report 8 Aug 2010 18:38

1851 England Census
about Phillis Simpson
Name: Phillis Simpson
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1812
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: J T
Gender: Female
Where born: Wrenbury, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Farndon
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Registration district: Great Boughton
Sub-registration district: Tattenhall
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 47
Household Members: Name Age
J T Simpson 49
Phillis Simpson 39
Eleanor Simpson 11 - Daughter
Amelia Simpson 30 - Sister
John Simpson 17 - Nephew
Thomas Simpson 12 - Nephew
Sarah Allen 26 - Servant
Rachel Davies 18 - Servant
John Jones 20 - Servant

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2171; Folio: 83; Page: 16; GSU roll: 87159-87161.

Peter

Peter Report 8 Aug 2010 18:33

Hi everyone,

I was searching on the IGI Pilot Record Scheme Website last night and I found the following marriage between John Thomas Simpson (aged 21) and Phillis Brett (aged 21). The marriage took place in Walton On The Hill, Lancashire on 21 November 1839.

Now Phillis' father is recorded as Thomas Brett, making me beleive that she is a very distant aunt of mine. However, her birth year is 'out' by eight years.

I'm interested to see if anyone can spot her in the census. Unless she was widowed and remarried she should appear as:

Phillis Simpson (nee Brett), born 1810 in Wrenbury, Cheshire, wife of John Thomas Simpson.

This is all of the infromation I have for Phillis and her possible spouse. I don't even know if they had any children as of yet! I would suspect that her name is quite unusal, hopefully making it quite easy to spot her?!

Can anyone see Phillis in the census please, and see if the information correlates with the birth information I have for her?

Thank you