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Hi
Happy New Year to every one

I have been reading through The Bowler Family and notice that

Horace James Bowler born 1891 Nottingham served in The Sherwood Foresters as a Private
I have tried to find him but no Luck
I wonder I wonder if anyone could help me Please
Olive
:-)

How sad

Like you say gone but not forgotten

Olive

Looks like Nottinghamshire County Council have been researching names on War Memorials, perhaps...(you could always contact them)

Chris :)

And can't leave this 'Thread' without paying respects to Jonesey, gone but not forgotten, a sad loss to GR.

Hi Chris
Yes I found the Goggle item by chance the other day that's why I have started looking agian
I entered John / Jack Bowler and the info came up but a different Mothers name
Havnt a clue where the info has come from
Olive

Hi Chris
Any idea where John/ Jack Bowler was as we know he was killed WW1 1918

Was he on 1911 Census some where

I will go to the Nottm Library for the News Paper articals as the one from Genes reunited are small print

He married Adeliza Whitticker?
When John / Jack Bowler was killed
Adeliza. Married G Worthington

Thankyou again
Olive

No, was Thos. Wm. Bowler, attacked his Mother.

BOWLER, THOMAS WILLIAM MALBORN
GRO Reference: 1879 D Quarter in DERBY Volume 07B Page 472

Chris :)

(as posted earlier, below, his Birthdate could help with 1939 if about, you need Birth Cert., unless you already have)

greyghost Report 29 Dec 2016 15:57

Don't know if you ever found Clara's maiden name but her it is from the new GRO index


Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
BOWLER, JOHN MOLBURN Order
GRO Reference: 1887 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 380

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So this looks as though it's the marriage of John and Clara -

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1874 (>99%)
BOLTON Hannah Derby 7b 817 Scan available - click to view
Bowler Thomas Derby 7b 817 Scan available - click to view
Malborn Clara Derby 7b 817 Scan available - click to view
Wildbore John Derby 7b 817 Scan available - click to view


Baptism
County Nottinghamshire
Place (link for place information) Sneinton
Church name St Mathias
Register type Unspecified
Baptism date 09 Sep 1891
Person forename John
Person sex M
Person abode 35 Windmill La
Father forename Thomas
Father surname BOWLER
Father occupation Labourer
Mother forename Clara

http://www.freereg.org.uk/


Edits (google search brings below?)

(John Bowler was the son of Thomas Bowler and Clara Pollard who married in the Loughborough area in 1879.)

http://www.nottinghamshire.gov.uk/rollofhonour/People/Details/11426

(and you had below?)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1246968?page=0


30 September 1918 - Nottingham Evening Post - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire

(above is article relating to Jack Bowler, from Notts. County Council link)


UK, Army Registers of Soldiers' Effects, 1901-1929 (Ancestry)

(also on above)

Hi
And wow to all the info you have found me
Thankyou
Olive

Hi Chris
The Newspaper headlines Base Ingratitude
Was the Artical on John/Jack Bowler born 1886 Nottingham
I wonder where he was on 1911 Census Please
Olive

Am not seeing a 4th Greenwood birth with mmn Bowler between Emma's marriage and the 1911 census, to account for the 3rd death, so just wonder about this one , born pre marriage??

BOWLER, ELIZABETH ANNIE - Order
GRO Reference: 1902 S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 392

And death ??
Last name First name Born Died Event Record set Location
BOWLER ELIZABETH ANN 1903 1905 1905 Nottingham,

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
GREENWOOD, ETHEL BOWLER
GRO Reference: 1905 M Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 378

GREENWOOD, LILY BOWLER
GRO Reference: 1907 M Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 384

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
GREENWOOD, REUBEN BOWLER
GRO Reference: 1909 J Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 408

GREENWOOD, WILLIAM HENRY BOWLER
GRO Reference: 1911 S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 789

GREENWOOD ADELIZA 1917 — 1917 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

GREENWOOD DORIS H 1929 — 1929 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

GREENWOOD EMMA 1914 — 1914 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

GREENWOOD JOHN 1926 — 1926 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire,

GREENWOOD MAY 1922 — 1922 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire

Greenwood Household (4 People)
30 Morley Avenue , Nottingham C.B., Nottinghamshire, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Emma Greenwood 25 Mar 1885 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 462 1
William Greenwood 21 Jul 1911 Male Heavy Labour Worker Single 462 2
May Hooley (Greenwood) 15 May 1922 Female Machinist Single 462 3
John Greenwood 01 Aug 1926 Male At School Single 462 4

?...
(more newspaper items for you to view Olive!)

Chris :)

01 November 1904 - Nottingham Evening Post - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire

BASE INGRATITUDE.
Nottingham, was out work for five, months, and had been maintained by his parents, even though neces&itited his mother (Mrs. Clara Bowler) going out charing. A short time ago obtained employment under Corpoation, but. when his mother asked him on Saturdav night ...”


21 June 1906 - Nottingham Evening Post - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire

VIOLENT ATTACK ON A HUSBAND.
Mrs. Bowler shouted out that she had done it with basin and wished she had killed him. At the Guildhall, this morning, Clara. Bowler was brought up in custody charged with unlawfully wounding her husband, whose bead was swathed in bandages. On the application ...”


10 July 1906 - Nottingham Evening Post - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire

DOMESTIC INFELICITY.
NOTTINGHAM WOMAN ASSAULTS HER HUSBAND. At tite Nottingham Guildhall to-day. before Aid. A. Brownsword and Mr. A. H. Franks, Clara Bowler, of' 8, Nile-row, Cross-street, was charged with assaulting her husband, Thomas Bowler, on Jane 21st Prosecutor said that on returning ...”

(she threw a basin at him, cutting his head, on charging the woman with unlawfully wounding her husband she replied, "I wish it had killed him".

Emma's marriage ??

England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription

First name(s) EMMA
Last name BOWLER
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1904
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ EMMA BOWLER married one of these people
REUBEN GREENWOOD, ALBERT HENRY COPE
District NOTTINGHAM
District number -
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Volume 7B
Page 737

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And Emma in 1911 - Is the name of the boarder a coincidence?? Original has Single !!

Emma married 7 years, 4 children born 3 have died

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
10 Charles St Nottingham, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Reuben Greenwood Head Married Male Matteress Maker 29 1882 Nottingham
Emma Greenwood Wife Married Female Lace Hand 26 1885 Nottingham
Reuben Greenwood Son - Male - 2 1909 Nottingham
Clara Bowler Boarder Single Female Charwoman 59 1852 Cubley Derbyshire

Clara looks to be with below couple 1911, says Single...

Marriages Dec 1904 (>99%)
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Bowler Emma Nottingham 7b 737
Greenwood Reuben Nottingham 7b 737


Deaths Dec 1932 (>99%)
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Bowler Clara 70 Nottingham 7b 347

(her Burial on below)

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch

Horace James - a Private in the Sherwood Foresters

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First name(s) Horace James
Last name Bowler
Relationship -
Marital status Single
Sex Male
Occupation -
Age 20
Birth year 1891
Birth place Carlton Notts
Address Crownhill R S O Devon
Parish Egg Buckland
County Devon
Country England
Archive reference RG14
Registration district Plympton St Mary
Registration district number 275
Enumeration district 26
District number -
Sub district Plympton
Sub district number 2
Census reference RG14PN12938 RD275 SD2 ED26 SN9999
Piece number 12938
Folio -

Give me a chance!
1901 to see if any more children to help with search

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
20, Virginia Street, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Bowler Head Married Male 51 1850 Bus Driver Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire, England
Clara Bowler Wife Married Female 44 1857 -
Fredk Bowler Son Single Male 18 1883 Labourer (General) Derbyshire, England
Emma Bowler Daughter Single Female 16 1885 Box Maker Nottinghamshire, England
John Bowler Son Single Male 13 1888 - Nottinghamshire, England
Horace J Bowler Son Single Male 9 1892 -

Thankyou for your reply
Any luck with the 1911 Census please
Olive

Am going to put the 1891 up again from FMP with places of birth

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Windmill Lane, Snenton, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Bowler Head Married Male 40 1851 Groom Ashby-De-La-Zouch, Leicestershire, England
Clara Bowler Wife Married Female 37 1854 Hosiery Hand Cubley, Derbyshire, England
Thomas Bowler Son - Male 11 1880 - Derby, Derbyshire, England
Fred Bowler Son - Male 8 1883 - Derby, Derbyshire, England
Emma Bowler Daughter - Female 6 1885 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
John Bowler Son - Male 3 1888 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Elizabeth A Bowler Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

Don't know if you ever found Clara's maiden name but here it is from the new GRO index


Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
BOWLER, JOHN MOLBURN Order
GRO Reference: 1887 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 380

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So this looks as though it's the marriage of John and Clara -

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1874 (>99%)
BOLTON Hannah Derby 7b 817 Scan available - click to view
Bowler Thomas Derby 7b 817 Scan available - click to view
Malborn Clara Derby 7b 817 Scan available - click to view
Wildbore John Derby 7b 817 Scan available - click to view

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?? Thomas' birth showing same mmn

BOWLER, THOMAS WILLIAM MALBORN Order
GRO Reference: 1879 D Quarter in DERBY Volume 07B Page 472

and Elizabeth - another spelling !!
BOWLER, ELIZABETH ANN MALBORNE Order
GRO Reference: 1890 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 331

Hi
I am still trying to trace Thomas Bowler Clara Bowler on the Cencus
any luck with 1911 Census and 1881
Please
Olive