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Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 19 Jan 2017 20:16

Hi
Thankyou for the Census
When you read them they go together
All I know is that Catherine E Bowman had 2 Daughters
Daisy Bowman and Grace Bowman
She then married Henry Marriott and they had children between them
Henry Marriott also had children by his first wife ??

Thankyou agian I will keep looking for Henry Marriot born 1874
Olive

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 19 Jan 2017 18:29

Posting the census in order so you can see the information better- note mother born Heckington/ Eckington on all census:

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Bobbers Mill Road, Radford, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

William Bowman Head Married Male 33 1858 Roller Man In Flax Mill Spalding, Lincolnshire,
Elizabeth Bowman Wife Married Female 31 1860 - Heckington, Lincolnshire
William Bowman Son - Male 5 1886 - Bobbers Mill, Nottinghamshire,
Katherine Bowman Daughter - Female 4 1887 - Bobbers Mill, Nottinghamshire,
Lizzie Wilson Niece - Female 14 1877 Silk Bobbin Winder Lincolnshire, England
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1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
14, Fairfax Street, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

Elizabeth Bowman Head Widow Female 41 1860 Charwoman Eckington, Yorkshire,
Catherine Bowman Daughter Single Female 14 1887 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire,
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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
1 Pleasant Place Whitemoor Road O Basford Nottingham, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

Elizabeth Beaumont Head Widow Female Charwoman Domestic 50 1861 Lincolnshire Heckington
Catherine E Beaumont Daughter Single Female Lace Clipper And Scolloper 22 1889 Notts Rudford

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 19 Jan 2017 18:14

Hi
I know you have tried to look before
For Catherine Elizabeth Bowman born 1887 ish Nottingham
But just wondered if she could turn up 1911
Like it was said it could be a miss print

Anyway Marriage Certificate states
Henry Marriott 46 years old Widower General Carter father ??Marriott
Catherine Elizabeth Bowman 31 years old Spinster Father William Bowman

Henry Marriott had children by his first marriage = Ada Leslie and Lillian
That's all we know
Henry and Catherine Marriott are on the 1939 Register living at Rye Street Nottingham
Thankyou
Olive

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 19 Jan 2017 16:06

http://www.genesreunited.com.au/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1254530?d=asc

(was that not her on above?)

Chris :)

MarieCeleste Report 8 Jan 2011 13:32

How old was Henry when they married, and what was his occupation? Was there an address? I could try looking on 1911 for him.

Marriages Sep 1919
Bowman Catherine E Marriott Nottingham 7b 1096
Marriott Henry Bowman Nottingham 7b 1096


(adds below reference)

BOWMAN, CATHERINE ELIZABETH (COOLING)
GRO Reference: 1887 M Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 276

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 19 Jan 2017 15:31

Hi
I wonder if someone would look for 1911 census for
Catherine E Bowman born 1887 ish Nottingham
Please
Olive

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 19 Jan 2017 08:36


Thankyou for your 1911 census

Olive

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 19 Jan 2017 07:09

1911:

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
82 St Olafs Road Fulham S W, Fulham, London, England

Joseph Whittaker Head Married Male Window Blind Maker 39 1872 Sneinton Nottingham
Bessie Alexandra Whittaker Wife Married Female - 43 1868 Marylebone London
Lillie Whittaker Daughter Single Female Domestic Servant 16 1895 Sneinton Nottingham
Mabel Whittaker Daughter Single Female Dressmaker 15 1896 Sneinton Nottingham
Winifred Whittaker Daughter - Female - 3 1908 Fulham London
Doris Bessie Whittaker Daughter - Female - 0 1911 Fulham London

married 8 years, 2 children- still living
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His marriage:

Name: Joseph Whittaker
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Age: 32
Spouse: Bessie Alexandra Twiname
Spouse Age: 34
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 13 Apr 1903
Parish: St Augustine, Fulham
Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Father Name: George Whittaker
Spouse Father: Alexander Twiname
Register Type: Parish Register

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 19 Jan 2017 06:59

Hi
If Adeliza Whittaker was on the 1911 Census Nottingham
Her Mother Elizabeth had died
Where was her Father Joseph Whittaker on 1911 Census
Had he died too
Olive


Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 18 Jan 2017 18:16

Well looks that way, as Adeliza is down as their Niece...

Chris :)

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 18 Jan 2017 18:12

Wow another piece of interesting news
Joseph Whittaker The days Police News 1900
Olive

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 18 Jan 2017 18:04

Hi Chris
Trying to get my head around the 1911 Census

Elizabeth Hill was Adeliza Whittaker Mother

Was Annie Hill 1881 and Arthur Hill 1880 her sister and brother

To Elizabeth Hill
Olive

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 18 Jan 2017 17:18

Thankyou so much
I am putting all the Thomas Bowler and Clara Malibine together
Thomas Father is Frederick Bowler Clara s Father is Thomas it is stated on the Marriage 1874 Derby

Just need 2 births of thier children Elizabeth and Louise

Also The Army Papers for Horace James Bowler have quite a lot of info , with the help of of all of you And The Nottingham Library ,Also what I have found
Thankyou
Olive

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 18 Jan 2017 16:09

As her Sister Mabel on 1901 has Hill for Mother Maiden name, Birth 1896, would say this is Adeliza below...

Chris :)

1911 (Find My Past)
Annie Hill Head Single Female Lace Jennier 30 1881 Nottingham
Arthur Hill Brother Single Male Steel Bar Maker 29 1882 Nottingham
Addie Whittaker Niece Single Female Dresser Steel 20 1891 Nottingham (Presser Steel Cycle Works on image)
Address 13 Cur Lane Nottingham
Parish Nottingham
Census reference RG14 PN20542 RG78 PN1230 RD430 SD3 ED2 SN154


Baptism
County Nottinghamshire
Place Nottingham
Church name St Ann
Register type Unspecified
Baptism date 25 Aug 1891
Birth date 09 Dec 1890
Person forename Adeliza
Person abode 85 Long Hedge Lane
Father forename Joseph
Father surname WHITTAKER
Father occupation Carriage washer
Mother forename Elizabeth


1901 (Find My Past)
Joseph Whittaker Head Widower Male 30 1871 Window Blind Maker Nottinghamshire, England
Adeliza Whittaker Daughter - Female 10 1891 - Nottinghamshire, England
Lily Whittaker Daughter - Female 6 1895 - Nottinghamshire, England
Mabel Whittaker Daughter - Female 5 1896 - Nottinghamshire, England
Street Henry Street Newcastle Place
Parish Nottingham
Archive reference RG13
Piece number 3179
Folio 22
Page 35


1891
Joseph Whittaker Head Married Male 21 1870 Venetian And Wire Blind Maker Sneinton, Nottinghamshire, England
Elizabeth Whittaker Wife Married Female 20 1871 - Sneinton, Nottinghamshire, England
Adeliza Whittaker Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Sneinton, Nottinghamshire, England
Street Long Hedge Lane
Town Nottingham
Archive reference RG12
Piece number 2698
Folio 58
Page 3


Baptism
County Nottinghamshire
Place (Sneinton)
Church name St Stephen
Register type Unspecified
Baptism date 02 Dec 1872
Person forename Joseph
Person sex M
Person abode Dennett Terr
Father forename George
Father surname WHITTAKER
Father occupation Painter
Mother forename Charlotte


Deaths Mar 1901 (>99%)
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Whittaker Elizabeth 29 Nottingham 7b 200

(perhaps just before Census taken 31st March)


24 September 1900 - Nottingham Evening Post - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire

THIS DAY'S POLICE NEWS.
Maintenance Order
Joseph Whittaker. window blind maker, now in Bagthorpe Goal, was summoned for deserting his wife, Elizabeth Whittaker, 17, Fyne-street, Nottingham. Mr. H. B. Clayton appeared for the defendant, and offered 8s. a week, which complainant ultimately accepted.

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 18 Jan 2017 15:30

Hi
I wonder if you could find me the 1911 census for Adeliza Whittaker born 1890 Nottingham please

Adeliza Whittaker married John Bowler Nottingham

Thankyou
Olive

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 11 Jan 2017 16:49

Hi Chris
Have found the News Paper Artical 14 th March 1884 Thomas Bowler and his wife Clara
Interesting reading it sounds as though it wasn't the first time !!

The Marriage of Frederick Bowler 1883 to Lizzie Orrill 1915 Nottingham
Olive

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 4 Jan 2017 17:43

Hi
I have just found Jack Bowler on 1911 Census on Genes Reunited and printed it off

Fancy another News Paper artical for Thomas Bowler and his wife Clara Bowler
wonder how many more
Shame its not Nottingham News Paper then i could get a copy

I think Frederick Bower born 1883 was serving in Notts and Derbys Riffel WW1
Carnt quite make it out Jack Bowler WW1 records 1907 has stated all his family except for his Father Thomas Bowler ??

Bye for now
Olive

Choccy

Choccy Report 4 Jan 2017 08:31

??

Jack Bowler

in the 1911 England Census


Name: Jack Bowler

Age in 1911: 21

Estimated birth year: abt 1890

Birth Place: Thorneywood Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

County/Island: Military

Country: England

Military Unit: 1st K O Y L I

Registration District Number: 641

ED, institution, or vessel: China and Hong Kong

Piece: 34995


http://tinyurl.com/hh776hx

"Sergeant Bowler enlisted at Nottingham and became a professional soldier. At the time of the 1911 census he was a Private serving with the 1st Bn. [King’s Own] Yorkshire Light Infantry, based in Hong Kong"

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 4 Jan 2017 07:50

Use that link I posted Olive...(as said, if you see any that look likely, use the Army Number for searching)

Derbyshire Baptisms Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Frederic
Last name Bowler
Birth date 5 Jan 1883
Baptism year 1883
Baptism day 31
Baptism month Jan
Place Derby St Paul
Parents Tom & Clara
Father's occupation Groom
Residence 4 Bennetts Yard
County Derbyshire


BOWLER, FREDERICK (MALBORN)
GRO Reference: 1883 M Quarter in DERBY Volume 07B Page 569


(seems things not good for Thomas/Clara back then!)

14 March 1884 - Derbyshire Advertiser and Journal - Derby, Derbyshire

Thomas Bowler, stableman, was charged with violently assaulting Clara Bowler, his wife, on the 8th March.—The parties live at the back of 18. York-street, and complainant stated that her husband came home, worse for liquor...


(another about also!)

Births Jun 1883 (>99%)
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Bowler Frederick Mansfield 7b 95


BAWLER, FREDERICK (ROOPER)
GRO Reference: 1883 J Quarter in MANSFIELD Volume 07B Page 95

(he Married 1906 Basford, Sarah Ann Knowles)


http://www.belperinwartime.org/a-b.html?var1=http://www.belperinwartime.org/Memorial-AB.php?id=34

(to rule out the War Death for 1916, age 26)

Chris :)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/military_chat/thread/1364030

(I see Horace was found then!, that 1911 is also posted on here)


Who do you subscribe to?. Ancestry, Find My Past or Genes, they all have Military.

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 3 Jan 2017 22:07

Hi Chris
The latest on the Bowler Family

I have been into Nottingham Library and found the 3 Articals in the Nottingham Evening Post !!!Interesting reading

Jack Bowlers WW1 Army Records which states his Mother s name Clara Bowler and a list of his Sister and Brothers and there addresses

It seams that Frederick Bowler born 1883 Derby was serving in WW1
IT would be nice if I could find his Records

Also I have looked for Jack Bowler 1911 Census station over seas but no luck

Bye for now
Olive






Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 2 Jan 2017 14:05

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/british-army-medal-index-cards-1914-1920/

(if you can see him on above, you can then use that Army Number for reference when searching on Ancestry, Find My Past, Genes)

Chris :)