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FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 30 Jul 2010 12:58

Do you know what Michael?

I think I have just found him...

He has Buckley as birth place on the census 1911-1891 and I think it was Cheshire because......

1851

DAVIES, James Head Married M 43 1808 Brick Maker Journey Man
Hawarden
Flintshire
DAVIES, Ann Wife Married F 37 1814
Liverpool
DAVIES, Thomas Son Unmarried M 15 1836 Brick Maker Journey Man
Hawarden
Flintshire
DAVIES, Jane Daughter F 12 1839
Hawarden
Flintshire
DAVIES, Hannah Daughter F 10 1841
Hawarden
Flintshire
DAVIES, Ann Daughter F 8 1843
Hawarden
Flintshire
DAVIES, James Son M 7 1844
Hawarden
Flintshire
DAVIES, Elizabeth Daughter F 3 1848
Hawarden
Flintshire
DAVIES, Martha Daughter F 1 1850
Hawarden
Flintshire

Registration District:
Great Boughton Sub District:
Hawarden Enumeration District:
20 Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Ewloe Town Municipal Borough:
Address:
Catheralli Brick Work, Ewloe Town County:
Cheshire


1861
DAVIES, James Head Widower M 53 1808 Brick Maker
Hawarden
Flintshire
DAVIES, Anne Daughter Unmarried F 19 1842
Hawarden
Flintshire
DAVIES, James Son Unmarried M 17 1844 Brick Maker
Hawarden
Flintshire
DAVIES, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 13 1848 Scholar
Hawarden
Flintshire
DAVIES, Martha Daughter F 11 1850
Hawarden
Flintshire
DAVIES, William Son M 5 1856
Hawarden
Flintshire
DAVIES, Edward Son M 3 1858
Hawarden
Flintshire
DAVIES, Henry Son M 1 1860
Hawarden
Flintshire

Registration District:
Great Boughton Sub District:
4 Hawarden Enumeration District:
13 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Buckley

Civil Parish:
Ewloe Town Municipal Borough:
Address:
Cathralls Bk Oak, Pickering Place, Ewloe Town County:
Cheshire


Of course Flint and Cheshire are often mixed on census as they are borderline.
They just gave him and other children Buckley Flint to make it easier for census I think and they consider themselves in Flint no matter what the borders are said to be by govenment.

What do you think of this lot then?

Mike *

Mike * Report 30 Jul 2010 12:38

If Buckley was his birthplace, then it's near to Mold

Could this be him ?

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Household: 1881


Jane ROBERTS Head W Female 59 N. K., Denbigh, Wales Dressmaker
John HUGHES Boarder W Male 60 Mold, Flint, Wales Farm Laborer
Edward DAVIES Boarder U Male 25 Mold, Flint, Wales Farm Laborer


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Source Information:
Dwelling 3 Castle St
Census Place Mold, Flint, Wales

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 30 Jul 2010 12:22

Search party required please.

1891 entry.

DAVIES, Edward Head Married M 34 1857 Coal Miner
Buckley
Flintshire


He married in 1889 (age 32 bachelor)and his father is given as James Davies ...Brickmaker ..(Deceased)

I have everything after his marriage and everything on his wife Isabella before and after marriage.

I can not find him anywhere for sure prior to 1891.

Any offers please?

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 24 Jul 2010 09:16

Not only fainted but totally overwhelmed. Just going to print it all off so that I can sort through it.

Tell you what though, I certainly won't be taking all the credit for this when I let my friend see it. I'll tell him all about the good folk on this site.


Well, some are okay anyway.


slap.



Thanks so much. Cx

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 24 Jul 2010 00:36

I cannot find why Arthur is Arther Nuttal at John's marriage but there are at least 5 Nuttall families living on Albert Rd 1861


Marriage: 8 Feb 1835 St Elphin, Warrington, Lancashire, England
Arthur Mather - of This Parish
Sarah Smith - (X), of This Parish
Witness: John Winstanley; Ann Porch, (X)
Married by Banns by: Horace Powys Rector
Register: Marriages 1833 - 1837, Page 105, Entry 314
Source: LDS Film 1532962

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 24 Jul 2010 00:32

1851 census - household transcription
Person: MATHER, Arthur
Address: Crossley Street, Warrington

MATHER, Arthur Head Married M 40 1811 Fustian Cutter
Warrington
Lancashire VIEW
MATHER, Jane Wife Married F 28 1823 Fustian Cutter
Warrington
Lancashire VIEW
MATHER, Joseph Son Unmarried M 13 1838 Fustian Cutter
Warrington
Lancashire VIEW
MATHER, John Son Unmarried M 6 1845 Scholar
Warrington
Lancashire VIEW
MATHER, Thomas Smith Son Unmarried M 0 (8 MOS) 1851
Warrington
Lancashire VIEW
SMITH, John Father In Law Widower M 48 1803 Cordwainer & Chebea Pensioner
Warrington
Lancashire

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 24 Jul 2010 00:25

I wonder?


Baptism: 25 Dec 1844 St Elphin, Warrington, Lancashire, England
John Mather - Child of Arthur Mather & Jane
Abode: Hopwood Street
Occupation: Fustian Cutter
Baptised by: J H Sharples
Register: Baptisms 1838 - 1845, Page 382, Entry 3055
Source: LDS Film 1562963

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 23 Jul 2010 23:08

Same address as 1871 you posted

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 23 Jul 2010 23:06

This looks promising

1861 census - household transcription
Person: MATHER, John
Address: Albert Place, Farnworth
RIDINGS, Henry Head Married M 23 1838 Coal Miner
Little Hulton
Lancashire VIEW
RIDINGS, Ellen Wife Married F 22 1839 P L Cotton Weaver
Farnworth
Lancashire VIEW
MATHER, John Lodger Unmarried M 16 1845 Coal Miner
Warrington
Lancashire VIEW
RIDINGS, Ruth Daughter F 1 1860
Farnworth
Lancashire

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 23 Jul 2010 23:03

Marriage: 29 Apr 1865 St John the Evangelist, Farnworth with Kearsley, Lancashire, England
John Mather - 20 Collier Bachelor of King Street Farnworth
Mary Riley - (X), 20 Spinster of Nan Lane Farnworth
Groom's Father: Arthur Nuttall, Fustian shearer
Bride's Father: Betty Riley, Singlewoman
Witness: Peter Royle; Mary Royle, (X)
Married by Certificate by: W. Burns,Vicar
Register: Marriages 1858 - 1866, Page 196, Entry 391
Source: LDS Film 1538440

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 23 Jul 2010 23:01

possible but occupation wrong

1861 census - household transcription
Person: MATHER, John
Address: 48, School Brow, Warrington
BURCHALL, William Head Married M 23 1838 Saddler
Warrington
Lancashire VIEW
BURCHALL, Hannah Wife Married F 35 1826 Dressmaker
Warrington
Lancashire VIEW
MATHER, John Son Unmarried M 17 1844 Plasterer
Warrington
Lancashire VIEW
MATHER, Abel Son M 15 1846 Glass Cutter
Warrington
Lancashire VIEW
MATHER, Elizabeth Daughter F 11 1850 Fustian Cutter
Warrington
Lancashire VIEW
MATHER, Mary Daughter F 10 1851 Scholar
Warrington
Lancashire VIEW
MATHER, Hannah Daughter F 6 1855 Scholar
Warrington
Lancashire VIEW
BURCHALL, Ann Frances Daughter F 1 (14M) 1860
Warrington
Lancashire

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 23 Jul 2010 22:56

Hope Cyn doesnt mind wading through it all and sorting it out..!

Im just a simple soul that can only absorb a little at a time.

Dont mean that to be horrid,just the way my brain works.

We are all different thank Evans,or life would be boring...

Def gone now...~~~

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 23 Jul 2010 22:52

That is all Mather events in Abram

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 23 Jul 2010 22:51

I have already posted that too.;)

YOU EDITED 1881 OUT...!

Need 1861 and back for John Mather ..Warrington now.

Or his marriage to Mary for her maiden name?

Whats all that stuff?

Bed ..x

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 23 Jul 2010 22:49

Sorry I posted the wrong page

Baptisms: 3 May 1840 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England
Thomas Mather - 2nd Son of Thomas Mather & Margaret
Born: 5 Apr 1840
Abode: Abram
Occupation: Publican
Baptised by: John J Dixon Curate of Abram
Register: Baptisms 1838 - 1897, Page 4, Entry 31
Source: LDS Film 1885642

Baptisms: 6 May 1883 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England
Mary Ellen Mather - Child of Thomas Mather & Sarah Ann
Abode: Platt Bridge
Occupation: Collier
Baptised by: H Linton Vicar
Register: Baptisms 1838 - 1897, Page 193
Source: LDS Film 1885642

Baptisms: 21 Aug 1887 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England
William Mather - Child of Thomas Mather & Sarah Ann
Abode: Platt Bridge
Occupation: Collier
Baptised by: H Linton Vicar
Register: Baptisms 1838 - 1897, Page 221
Source: LDS Film 1885642

Burial: 24 Oct 1888 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England
Sarah Hannah Mather -
Age: 3
Abode: Platt Bridge
Buried by: John Alker, C: in Platt Bridge Wigan
Source: LDS Film 1885644

Baptisms: 31 Jan 1892 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England
Ethel Mather - Child of Thomas Mather & Sarah Ann
Abode: Platt Bridge
Occupation: Collier
Baptised by: Hewett Linton Vicar
Register: Baptisms 1838 - 1897, Page 251
Source: LDS Film 1885642

Burial: 23 Nov 1895 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England
Seth Mather -
Age: 3
Abode: Plank Lane
Buried by: Hewett Linton Vicar
Source: LDS Film 1885644

Marriage: 8 Feb 1896 St John, Abram, Lancashire, England
Richard Lomax - 21 Collier Bachelor of Bickershaw
Mary Elizabeth Mather - 24 Spinster of Bickershaw
Groom's Father: William Lomax, Collier
Bride's Father: John Mather, Collier (Deceased)
Witness: Robert Mather; Mary Dunn
Married by Banns by: Hewett Linton Vicar
Register: Marriages 1894 - 1901, Page 27, Entry 53
Source: LDS Film 1885643

Marriage: 1 Jan 1900 St John, Abram, Lancashire, England
Alfred Mather - 23 Collier Bachelor of Abram
Jane Carver - 22 Spinster of Abram
Groom's Father: John Mather, Collier
Bride's Father: James Carver, Collier
Witness: Ernest Mather; James J Carver; Lizzie Carver
Married by Banns by: Hewett Linton Vicar
Register: Marriages 1894 - 1901, Page 79, Entry 158
Source: LDS Film 1885643

Baptisms: 17 Jan 1904 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England
Hannah Mather - daughter of Alfred Mather & Jane
Abode: 6 Atherton Street, Bickershaw
Source: Parish Magazine

Baptisms: 17 Jan 1904 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England
Mary Mather - daughter of Alfred Mather & Jane
Abode: 6 Atherton Street, Bickershaw
Source: Parish Magazine

Baptisms: 13 Nov 1904 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England
Mary Elizabeth Mather - daughter of Ernest Mather & Elizabeth
Abode: 5 Brown Street, Bickershaw
Source: Parish Magazine

Baptisms: 15 Jul 1906 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England
James Thomas Mather - son of Alfred Mather & Jane
Abode: 469 Bickershaw Lane, Bickershaw
Notes: At Bickershaw
Source: Parish Magazine

Baptisms: 13 Jan 1907 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England
Doris Mabel Mather - daughter of Caleb Mather & Sarah Alice
Abode: 5 Carr Street, Platt Bridge
Source: Parish Magazine

Baptisms: 2 Aug 1908 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England
Ernest Mather - son of Ernest Mather & Elizabeth
Abode: 5 Brown Street, Bickershaw
Notes: At Bickershaw
Source: Parish Magazine

Baptisms: 12 Nov 1908 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England
Ellen Mather - daughter of Alfred Mather & Jane
Abode: 469 Bickershaw Lane
Notes: At Bickershaw
Source: Parish Magazine

Baptisms: 25 Nov 1910 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England
Edith Mather - daughter of Ernest Mather & Elizabeth
Abode: 5 Brown Street, Bickershaw
Notes: At Bickershaw
Source: Parish Magazine

Baptisms: 15 Oct 1911 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England
Lily Mather - daughter of Alfred Mather & Jane
Abode: 469 Bickershaw Lane, Bickershaw
Notes: At Bickershaw
Source: Parish Magazine

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 23 Jul 2010 22:46

1871

MATHER, John Head M 26 1845 Lancashire <<Warrington(Coal miner)
MATHER, Mary Wife F 24 1847 Lancashire
MATHER, Alice Daughter F 5 1866 Lancashire<<did she die and another named for her?
MATHER, Jane Daughter F 2 1869 Lancashire<<Jessy J from 1881?
MATHER, Robert Son M 0 1871 Lancashire

Registration District:
Bolton Sub District:
Farnworth Enumeration District:
3 Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Farnworth Municipal Borough:
Address:
Albert Road, Farnworth County:
Lancashire



Off to bed.
Night ..

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 23 Jul 2010 22:38

You sure can Cyn.

I cant see Jess and Mary on 1871 on FMP.

Off to Ancestry to look .


Of course he is LK.
Stupid me...

I already posted the1891 so should have noted it.

Getting tired...

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 23 Jul 2010 22:37

Alfred is Ernest's brother.
Ernest is a witness and father is John


1891 census - household transcription
Person: MATHER, Alfred
Address: 4, Hampson Square, Radcliffe

MATHER, Mary Head Widow F 48 1843
Farnworth
Lancashire VIEW
MATHER, Mary E Daughter Single F 19 1872 Cotton Winder
Farnworth
Lancashire VIEW
MATHER, Robert Son Single M 21 1870 Coal Miner
Farnworth
Lancashire VIEW
MATHER, Alfred Son Single M 14 1877 Coal Miner
Farnworth
Lancashire VIEW
MATHER, Ernest Son M 12 1879 Doffer Cotton Mill
Farnworth
Lancashire VIEW
MATHER, Alice Daughter F 5 1886 Scholar
Farnworth
Lancashire VIEW
HALLIDAY, John Boarder Single M 38 1853 Coal Sinker
Swinton
Lancashire VIEW
RADLEY, Thomas Boarder Single M 34 1857 Coal Miner
Denton
Lancashire VIEW
YOUNG, Martha Boarder Single F 28 1863 Cotton Spinner
Farnworth
Lancashire

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 23 Jul 2010 22:33

I got it...I got it..

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1904
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
MATHER Ernest CARVER Elizabeth St. John,Abram Wigan & Leigh C7/2/274


I can go back to the archives again and see about the father can't I?

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 23 Jul 2010 22:30

faints......overcome with gratitude.

where's that 'flipping father gorn?

Must print this lot of tomorrer or it'll get lorst in me brainbox.



Thank you dear friends.