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FannyByGaslight
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30 Jul 2010 12:58 |
Do you know what Michael?
I think I have just found him...
He has Buckley as birth place on the census 1911-1891 and I think it was Cheshire because......
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DAVIES, James Head Married M 43 1808 Brick Maker Journey Man Hawarden Flintshire DAVIES, Ann Wife Married F 37 1814 Liverpool DAVIES, Thomas Son Unmarried M 15 1836 Brick Maker Journey Man Hawarden Flintshire DAVIES, Jane Daughter F 12 1839 Hawarden Flintshire DAVIES, Hannah Daughter F 10 1841 Hawarden Flintshire DAVIES, Ann Daughter F 8 1843 Hawarden Flintshire DAVIES, James Son M 7 1844 Hawarden Flintshire DAVIES, Elizabeth Daughter F 3 1848 Hawarden Flintshire DAVIES, Martha Daughter F 1 1850 Hawarden Flintshire Registration District: Great Boughton Sub District: Hawarden Enumeration District: 20 Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Ewloe Town Municipal Borough: Address: Catheralli Brick Work, Ewloe Town County: Cheshire
1861 DAVIES, James Head Widower M 53 1808 Brick Maker Hawarden Flintshire DAVIES, Anne Daughter Unmarried F 19 1842 Hawarden Flintshire DAVIES, James Son Unmarried M 17 1844 Brick Maker Hawarden Flintshire DAVIES, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 13 1848 Scholar Hawarden Flintshire DAVIES, Martha Daughter F 11 1850 Hawarden Flintshire DAVIES, William Son M 5 1856 Hawarden Flintshire DAVIES, Edward Son M 3 1858 Hawarden Flintshire DAVIES, Henry Son M 1 1860 Hawarden Flintshire Registration District: Great Boughton Sub District: 4 Hawarden Enumeration District: 13 Ecclesiastical Parish: Buckley Civil Parish: Ewloe Town Municipal Borough: Address: Cathralls Bk Oak, Pickering Place, Ewloe Town County: Cheshire
Of course Flint and Cheshire are often mixed on census as they are borderline. They just gave him and other children Buckley Flint to make it easier for census I think and they consider themselves in Flint no matter what the borders are said to be by govenment.
What do you think of this lot then?
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30 Jul 2010 12:38 |
If Buckley was his birthplace, then it's near to Mold
Could this be him ?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Household: 1881
Jane ROBERTS Head W Female 59 N. K., Denbigh, Wales Dressmaker John HUGHES Boarder W Male 60 Mold, Flint, Wales Farm Laborer Edward DAVIES Boarder U Male 25 Mold, Flint, Wales Farm Laborer
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 3 Castle St Census Place Mold, Flint, Wales
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FannyByGaslight
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30 Jul 2010 12:22 |
Search party required please.
1891 entry.
DAVIES, Edward Head Married M 34 1857 Coal Miner Buckley Flintshire
He married in 1889 (age 32 bachelor)and his father is given as James Davies ...Brickmaker ..(Deceased)
I have everything after his marriage and everything on his wife Isabella before and after marriage.
I can not find him anywhere for sure prior to 1891.
Any offers please?
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Cynthia
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24 Jul 2010 09:16 |
Not only fainted but totally overwhelmed. Just going to print it all off so that I can sort through it.
Tell you what though, I certainly won't be taking all the credit for this when I let my friend see it. I'll tell him all about the good folk on this site.
Well, some are okay anyway.
slap.
Thanks so much. Cx
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LadyKira
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24 Jul 2010 00:36 |
I cannot find why Arthur is Arther Nuttal at John's marriage but there are at least 5 Nuttall families living on Albert Rd 1861
Marriage: 8 Feb 1835 St Elphin, Warrington, Lancashire, England Arthur Mather - of This Parish Sarah Smith - (X), of This Parish Witness: John Winstanley; Ann Porch, (X) Married by Banns by: Horace Powys Rector Register: Marriages 1833 - 1837, Page 105, Entry 314 Source: LDS Film 1532962
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LadyKira
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24 Jul 2010 00:32 |
1851 census - household transcription Person: MATHER, Arthur Address: Crossley Street, Warrington MATHER, Arthur Head Married M 40 1811 Fustian Cutter Warrington Lancashire VIEW MATHER, Jane Wife Married F 28 1823 Fustian Cutter Warrington Lancashire VIEW MATHER, Joseph Son Unmarried M 13 1838 Fustian Cutter Warrington Lancashire VIEW MATHER, John Son Unmarried M 6 1845 Scholar Warrington Lancashire VIEW MATHER, Thomas Smith Son Unmarried M 0 (8 MOS) 1851 Warrington Lancashire VIEW SMITH, John Father In Law Widower M 48 1803 Cordwainer & Chebea Pensioner Warrington Lancashire
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LadyKira
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24 Jul 2010 00:25 |
I wonder?
Baptism: 25 Dec 1844 St Elphin, Warrington, Lancashire, England John Mather - Child of Arthur Mather & Jane Abode: Hopwood Street Occupation: Fustian Cutter Baptised by: J H Sharples Register: Baptisms 1838 - 1845, Page 382, Entry 3055 Source: LDS Film 1562963
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LadyKira
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23 Jul 2010 23:08 |
Same address as 1871 you posted
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LadyKira
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23 Jul 2010 23:06 |
This looks promising
1861 census - household transcription Person: MATHER, John Address: Albert Place, Farnworth RIDINGS, Henry Head Married M 23 1838 Coal Miner Little Hulton Lancashire VIEW RIDINGS, Ellen Wife Married F 22 1839 P L Cotton Weaver Farnworth Lancashire VIEW MATHER, John Lodger Unmarried M 16 1845 Coal Miner Warrington Lancashire VIEW RIDINGS, Ruth Daughter F 1 1860 Farnworth Lancashire
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LadyKira
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23 Jul 2010 23:03 |
Marriage: 29 Apr 1865 St John the Evangelist, Farnworth with Kearsley, Lancashire, England John Mather - 20 Collier Bachelor of King Street Farnworth Mary Riley - (X), 20 Spinster of Nan Lane Farnworth Groom's Father: Arthur Nuttall, Fustian shearer Bride's Father: Betty Riley, Singlewoman Witness: Peter Royle; Mary Royle, (X) Married by Certificate by: W. Burns,Vicar Register: Marriages 1858 - 1866, Page 196, Entry 391 Source: LDS Film 1538440
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LadyKira
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23 Jul 2010 23:01 |
possible but occupation wrong
1861 census - household transcription Person: MATHER, John Address: 48, School Brow, Warrington BURCHALL, William Head Married M 23 1838 Saddler Warrington Lancashire VIEW BURCHALL, Hannah Wife Married F 35 1826 Dressmaker Warrington Lancashire VIEW MATHER, John Son Unmarried M 17 1844 Plasterer Warrington Lancashire VIEW MATHER, Abel Son M 15 1846 Glass Cutter Warrington Lancashire VIEW MATHER, Elizabeth Daughter F 11 1850 Fustian Cutter Warrington Lancashire VIEW MATHER, Mary Daughter F 10 1851 Scholar Warrington Lancashire VIEW MATHER, Hannah Daughter F 6 1855 Scholar Warrington Lancashire VIEW BURCHALL, Ann Frances Daughter F 1 (14M) 1860 Warrington Lancashire
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FannyByGaslight
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23 Jul 2010 22:56 |
Hope Cyn doesnt mind wading through it all and sorting it out..!
Im just a simple soul that can only absorb a little at a time.
Dont mean that to be horrid,just the way my brain works.
We are all different thank Evans,or life would be boring...
Def gone now...~~~
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LadyKira
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23 Jul 2010 22:52 |
That is all Mather events in Abram
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FannyByGaslight
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23 Jul 2010 22:51 |
I have already posted that too.;)
YOU EDITED 1881 OUT...!
Need 1861 and back for John Mather ..Warrington now.
Or his marriage to Mary for her maiden name?
Whats all that stuff?
Bed ..x
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LadyKira
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23 Jul 2010 22:49 |
Sorry I posted the wrong page
Baptisms: 3 May 1840 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England Thomas Mather - 2nd Son of Thomas Mather & Margaret Born: 5 Apr 1840 Abode: Abram Occupation: Publican Baptised by: John J Dixon Curate of Abram Register: Baptisms 1838 - 1897, Page 4, Entry 31 Source: LDS Film 1885642
Baptisms: 6 May 1883 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England Mary Ellen Mather - Child of Thomas Mather & Sarah Ann Abode: Platt Bridge Occupation: Collier Baptised by: H Linton Vicar Register: Baptisms 1838 - 1897, Page 193 Source: LDS Film 1885642
Baptisms: 21 Aug 1887 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England William Mather - Child of Thomas Mather & Sarah Ann Abode: Platt Bridge Occupation: Collier Baptised by: H Linton Vicar Register: Baptisms 1838 - 1897, Page 221 Source: LDS Film 1885642
Burial: 24 Oct 1888 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England Sarah Hannah Mather - Age: 3 Abode: Platt Bridge Buried by: John Alker, C: in Platt Bridge Wigan Source: LDS Film 1885644
Baptisms: 31 Jan 1892 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England Ethel Mather - Child of Thomas Mather & Sarah Ann Abode: Platt Bridge Occupation: Collier Baptised by: Hewett Linton Vicar Register: Baptisms 1838 - 1897, Page 251 Source: LDS Film 1885642
Burial: 23 Nov 1895 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England Seth Mather - Age: 3 Abode: Plank Lane Buried by: Hewett Linton Vicar Source: LDS Film 1885644
Marriage: 8 Feb 1896 St John, Abram, Lancashire, England Richard Lomax - 21 Collier Bachelor of Bickershaw Mary Elizabeth Mather - 24 Spinster of Bickershaw Groom's Father: William Lomax, Collier Bride's Father: John Mather, Collier (Deceased) Witness: Robert Mather; Mary Dunn Married by Banns by: Hewett Linton Vicar Register: Marriages 1894 - 1901, Page 27, Entry 53 Source: LDS Film 1885643
Marriage: 1 Jan 1900 St John, Abram, Lancashire, England Alfred Mather - 23 Collier Bachelor of Abram Jane Carver - 22 Spinster of Abram Groom's Father: John Mather, Collier Bride's Father: James Carver, Collier Witness: Ernest Mather; James J Carver; Lizzie Carver Married by Banns by: Hewett Linton Vicar Register: Marriages 1894 - 1901, Page 79, Entry 158 Source: LDS Film 1885643
Baptisms: 17 Jan 1904 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England Hannah Mather - daughter of Alfred Mather & Jane Abode: 6 Atherton Street, Bickershaw Source: Parish Magazine
Baptisms: 17 Jan 1904 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England Mary Mather - daughter of Alfred Mather & Jane Abode: 6 Atherton Street, Bickershaw Source: Parish Magazine
Baptisms: 13 Nov 1904 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England Mary Elizabeth Mather - daughter of Ernest Mather & Elizabeth Abode: 5 Brown Street, Bickershaw Source: Parish Magazine
Baptisms: 15 Jul 1906 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England James Thomas Mather - son of Alfred Mather & Jane Abode: 469 Bickershaw Lane, Bickershaw Notes: At Bickershaw Source: Parish Magazine
Baptisms: 13 Jan 1907 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England Doris Mabel Mather - daughter of Caleb Mather & Sarah Alice Abode: 5 Carr Street, Platt Bridge Source: Parish Magazine
Baptisms: 2 Aug 1908 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England Ernest Mather - son of Ernest Mather & Elizabeth Abode: 5 Brown Street, Bickershaw Notes: At Bickershaw Source: Parish Magazine
Baptisms: 12 Nov 1908 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England Ellen Mather - daughter of Alfred Mather & Jane Abode: 469 Bickershaw Lane Notes: At Bickershaw Source: Parish Magazine
Baptisms: 25 Nov 1910 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England Edith Mather - daughter of Ernest Mather & Elizabeth Abode: 5 Brown Street, Bickershaw Notes: At Bickershaw Source: Parish Magazine
Baptisms: 15 Oct 1911 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England Lily Mather - daughter of Alfred Mather & Jane Abode: 469 Bickershaw Lane, Bickershaw Notes: At Bickershaw Source: Parish Magazine
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FannyByGaslight
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23 Jul 2010 22:46 |
1871
MATHER, John Head M 26 1845 Lancashire <<Warrington(Coal miner) MATHER, Mary Wife F 24 1847 Lancashire MATHER, Alice Daughter F 5 1866 Lancashire<<did she die and another named for her? MATHER, Jane Daughter F 2 1869 Lancashire<<Jessy J from 1881? MATHER, Robert Son M 0 1871 Lancashire Registration District: Bolton Sub District: Farnworth Enumeration District: 3 Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Farnworth Municipal Borough: Address: Albert Road, Farnworth County: Lancashire
Off to bed. Night ..
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FannyByGaslight
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23 Jul 2010 22:38 |
You sure can Cyn.
I cant see Jess and Mary on 1871 on FMP.
Off to Ancestry to look .
Of course he is LK. Stupid me...
I already posted the1891 so should have noted it.
Getting tired...
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LadyKira
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23 Jul 2010 22:37 |
Alfred is Ernest's brother. Ernest is a witness and father is John
1891 census - household transcription Person: MATHER, Alfred Address: 4, Hampson Square, Radcliffe MATHER, Mary Head Widow F 48 1843 Farnworth Lancashire VIEW MATHER, Mary E Daughter Single F 19 1872 Cotton Winder Farnworth Lancashire VIEW MATHER, Robert Son Single M 21 1870 Coal Miner Farnworth Lancashire VIEW MATHER, Alfred Son Single M 14 1877 Coal Miner Farnworth Lancashire VIEW MATHER, Ernest Son M 12 1879 Doffer Cotton Mill Farnworth Lancashire VIEW MATHER, Alice Daughter F 5 1886 Scholar Farnworth Lancashire VIEW HALLIDAY, John Boarder Single M 38 1853 Coal Sinker Swinton Lancashire VIEW RADLEY, Thomas Boarder Single M 34 1857 Coal Miner Denton Lancashire VIEW YOUNG, Martha Boarder Single F 28 1863 Cotton Spinner Farnworth Lancashire
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Cynthia
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23 Jul 2010 22:33 |
I got it...I got it..
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1904 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference MATHER Ernest CARVER Elizabeth St. John,Abram Wigan & Leigh C7/2/274
I can go back to the archives again and see about the father can't I?
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Cynthia
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23 Jul 2010 22:30 |
faints......overcome with gratitude.
where's that 'flipping father gorn?
Must print this lot of tomorrer or it'll get lorst in me brainbox.
Thank you dear friends.
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