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Name: Ann Dickson
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place: , MANOR, PEEBLES, SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 25 Jul 1828
Birthplace: , Manor, Peebles, Scotland
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Adam Dickson
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Christian Laurie
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11766-4
System Origin: Scotland-VR
Source Film Number: 1067919
Reference Number: - 2:187M6XQ
Collection: Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

John, I had this one right from the beginning but couldn't find a marriage to Ann Dickson except in Edinburgh. Could they have married there?

Gael

Ann Dickson.....father Adam, mother Christian ms Laurie
yes Manor is a place in Peebleshire

Got to go so here's that marriage in case ???

Groom's Name: John Millar
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Annie Dickson
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 22 Sep 1859
Marriage Place: Edinburgh Parish,Edinburgh,Midlothian,Scotland
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M11685-1
System Origin: Scotland-ODM
Source Film Number: 6035516
Reference Number:
Collection: Scotland Marriages, 1561-1910

Thanks Aileen.

It's so frustrating and to think I was on the right path at the beginning!!

Gael

John......can I ask please where you got John's parent's names from?

Marriage

25/10/1853 MILLAR JOHN ANN DICKSON/FR1234 M LESMAHAGOW /LANARK

Viewed this record on SP gives John living in parish of Linridge Worchestershire and Ann is parish of Lesmahagow Lanarkshire

Hi Aileen,

On www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk in the Statutory Marriages 833/00 0004
1883 Marriages in the Parish of Keir in the County of Dumfries on the 14 December 1883
Surname of Father John Miller
Gardener
Surname Mother Annie Miller
Mother M.S Annie Dixon
Place of residence.....
John Miller 22 Drumlanrig
Gardener Gardens
(bachelor) Penpont
Mary Blackstock 23
Domestic servant
Spinster

Hi Gael,

Groom's name is wrong it should be Miller not Millar.

John

Sorry John, I meant where did you get John b.1822's parent's as being Donald and Mary m.s. Gray from?

The reason I asked is that traditionally Scottish people tended to name their children in order after relatives. The first son would be named after the paternal grandfather, 2nd son after the maternal grandfather, 3rd son after the father, then onto paternal uncles then maternal uncles and likewise with the daughters but starting with the mother's side of the family.
Although John and Annie do not seem to have stuck entirely to this pattern, there are enough matches to known family names that I would expect there to be a Donald somewhere in the mix if that was indeed John's father's name. As they appear to have named their first daughter after her maternal grandmother, Annie's mother Christian (variations include Christina and Christiana) and have also used her maiden name, Laurie, as one of their children's middle name and the fact that the first son has his maternal father's name as a middle name would also lead me to wonder if the first name, William, was the name of the paternal grandfather, in this case the father of John.
I have seen the record from Peter Stephens that you mentioned and he has John's father as William, giving it possible credence. I also have found them all on the 1841 census

Name: John Miller
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Where born: Argyll, Scotland

Civil parish: Inverchaolain
County: Argyll
Address: Kilmichael
Occupation: Ag Lab
Parish Number: 514
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Miller 50
Margt Miller 50
Janet Miller 15
John Miller 15
Margt Miller 13
William Miller 11

I did a quick check of the years around John's birth, as census records can often get the year incorrect due to them only asking the age of people not taking into account that if their birthday was still due that year then their year of birth is a year earlier then estimated. There were 5 John Miller's registered in Argyllshire in the period from 1821 - 1824, but as many births weren't recorded, or the records have been lost, there may be many more. As a quick side note, the 1841 census rounded down the ages of anyone over 15 so that it can be quite inaccurate to the persons true age.

Out of curiosity I looked for the William and Margaret Miller that Peter Stephen mentions on the 1851 census and it gives William's occupation as a Master Gardener, may just be a coincidence though....