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mgnv The Wm W & Mary Ann Parkinson you have found had Eliza, Louis, & Alice Amy then Mary Ann died, Wm W went on to marrying my Gr Gr Grandma Isabella Edgar Holliday they went on to having Ann Jane, Laura, Emily [my Gr Grandma] Wm Frederick, & Lizzie, all the children to Wm's 1st marriage died in there 20's none married, Ann Jane died in her 20's, Laura died @ 18yrs also never marrying, Lizzie died the same yr as Laura, Lizzie was 11yrs. Emily married Wm Birkett & had 4 children she died @ the age of 40yrs, her brother was still alive when his mother Isabella died in 1916 [Isabella re-married after Wm W died to Wm Gordon Fraser she out lived him too] But I can'nt find Wm Frederick after the 1891 census. I geuss Isabella had a sad live. Ihave a scrapbook that she made & she appeared to be very religious. Joan

I was expecting to find this mob in RI 1850 - the nominal date of the census was 1/6/1850, just 2 days short of 10m before the UK 30/3/1851 (although in the US, the actual enumeration took place after the fact, probably not much after in RI, but 1mo after is not rare in rural western US). Anyway, I didn't find them in the US - not that I'm saying they're not hiding somewhere there, though.


1851 England Census
Civil parish: Abbey Holme
Ecclesiastical parish: Carlisle
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Street Address: Abbey
Registration district: Wigton
Sub-registration district: Abbey Holme
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 21

William W Parkinson 30 Clithero, Lancashire, England Head M Overlooker of Poor Looms
Mary Anne Parkinson 31 Church Kirk, Lancashire, England Wife M Housekeeper
Eliza Anne Parkinson 7 Accrington, Lancashire, England Daughter Scholar
Louis Waller Parkinson 10Mo North America Son

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2433; Folio: 84; Page: 46; GSU roll: 87113.


Here's a search of all Wigton BMDs for Parkinson 1848-1861

Births Jun 1852 (>99%)
Parkinson Simpson Wigton 10b 399
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Deaths Mar 1853 (99%)
Parkinson Simpson Wigton 10b 312
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Births Sep 1855 (>99%)
Parkinson Alice Amy Wigton 10b 407
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Deaths Jun 1856 (>99%)
Parkinson Mary Ann Wigton 10b 280
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Marriages Sep 1859 (>99%)
Parkinson William _aller Wigton 10b 537
Parkinson William Walter Wigton 10b 537
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Births Sep 1860 (>99%)
PARKINSON Annie Jane Wigton 10b 433

I think these are all the same family.

Re Simpson
Noting the Accrington record I found for Eliza Ann, this is probably relevant:


Births Sep 1841 (>99%)
Parkinson Henry Simpson Haslingden 21 409
Deaths Mar 1842 (>99%)
Parkinson Henry Simpson Haslingden 21 352


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1841
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
PARKINSON Henry Simpson Accrington Preston MILLER ACC/3/70
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1842
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
PARKINSON Henry Simpson 0 Accrington Preston ACC/2/86

mgnv

You could be right.

I just thought it funny that the child was called Margaret and there is no sign of Margaret used in the Rowell line. As we know often the eldest daughter is named after the mother or grandmother. Also, of course his second wife was Margaret.

As for her being born Northumberland, I just thought it might be where he met and married his second wife.

Waddya think?

Ozi

Hi mgnv This is great you've found a bit more on Isabella in the form of date's how do you do it? I have a book that Isabella made consisting of picture's from soap packets, flower's & the like's, with poem's, which is a nice keepsake. The info you have gave me on Isabel/la Hindmarsh is very helpful. Thanks Joan

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1861 England Census
Civil parish: Blencogo
Town: Blencogo
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Street Address: Blencogo
Registration district: Wigton
Sub-registration district: Abbey Holme
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Household schedule number: 5

William Woler Parkinson 49 Clitheroe, Lancashire, England Head M Land Proprietor
Isabella Parkinson 24 Newcastle, Northumberland, England Wife M
Eliza Parkinson 17 Accrington, Lancashire, England Daughter U Dressmaker
Lewis Woler Parkinson 11 N America British Subject Son Scholar
Alice Amy Parkinson 5 Blencogo, Cumberland, England Daughter Scholar
Ann Jane Parkinson 9Mo Blencogo, Cumberland, England Daughter

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3928; Folio: 94; Page: 2; GSU roll: 543207.


Don't know if this is your Eliza:
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1843
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
PARKINSON Eliza Ann Accrington Preston MILLER ACC/4/85



1871 England Census
Where born: Wylam N Castle
Civil parish: Blencogo
Ecclesiastical parish: Bromfield
Town: Blencogo
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Street Address:
Registration district: Wigton
Sub-registration district: Abbey Holme
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 27

William W Parkinson 59 Lowmoor, Lancashire, England Head M Teacher
Isabella E Parkinson 33 Wylam N Castle Wife M Teacher
Luis W Parkinson 22 Rhode Island, United States Son U Annuitant
Annie J Parkinson 10 Blencogo, Cumberland, England Daughter Scholar
Laura Parkinson 8 Blencogo, Cumberland, England Daughter Scholar
Emily Parkinson 4 Blencogo, Cumberland, England Daughter Scholar
William F Parkinson 2 Bridge Mill, Cumberland, England Son

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 5230; Folio: 15; Page: 6; GSU roll: 847442.


1881 Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Tom HODGSON Head U Male 42 Carlisle, Cumberland, England Railway Station Master
Isabella E. PARKINSON Servant M Female 45 Newcastle, Northumberland, England House Keeper
William F. PARKINSON Son Male 12 Bridge Mill, Cumberland, England Scholar
Lizzie PARKINSON Dau Female 8 Blencogo, Cumberland, England Scholar
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Source Information:
Dwelling Station Rd
Census Place Wigton, Cumberland, England
Family History Library Film 1342246
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5164 / 41
Page Number 19


1881 Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Etc ...
William Walter [Waller] PARKINSON Patient M Male 70 Schoolmaster
Etc ...
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Source Information:
Institution Cumberlnd & Westmorlnd Co Asylum" [No 1] Garland
Census Place St Cuthbert W/O - Carleton, Cumberland, England
Family History Library Film 1342244
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5156 / 126
Page Number 2
[rg11/5156/130/10]



1891 England Census
Civil parish: Wigton Cum Woodside
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Wigton
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Street Address: 34 New St
Registration district: Wigton
Sub-registration district: Wigton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3

Isabella Parkinson 53 Newcastle Upon Tyne Head W Living on own means
William H Parkinson 22 Cumberland, England Son S Mineral Water Worker

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4295; Folio 37; Page 20; GSU roll: 6099405.

Deaths Dec 1882 (>99%)
PARKINSON William Waller 71 Carlisle 10b 295


Marriages Sep 1891 (>99%)
Cowen Maria James Wigton 10b 801
Fraser William Gordon Wigton 10b 801
Graham James Wilson Wigton 10b 801
Parkinson Isabella Edgar Wigton 10b 801



1901 England Census
Civil parish: Everton
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 65 St Albans
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: South Everton
ED, institution, or vessel: 46
Household schedule number: 195

Harriett Heathorley 60 Newcastle Upon Tyne [u Lyme], Staffordshire, England Head W Insurance Agent
William Foater [Fraser] 62 Scotland Boarder M Trainer Painter
Isabella E Fraser 62 Newcastle Upon Tyne, Lancashire [N'land], England Boarder M

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3486; Folio: 20; Page: 32.

Maybe you should find images for:

Ovingham Bur
28 Jan 1814 Daniel Rowell of Wylam aged 2
19 Nov 1819 Isabel Rowell of Horsley aged 90
13 Oct 1828 Daniel Rowell of Wylam aged 8y 6m

Ovingham Bap
29 Jun 1817 Jacob child of Jacob & Isabella Rowell
9 Jul 1820 Daniel child of Jacob & Isabel Rowell
9 Jul 1820 Mary child of Jacob & Isabel Rowell
16 May 1824 Thomas child of Jacob & Isabel Rowell

http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/Transcriptions/NBL/

Deaths Jun 1858 (>99%)
Rowell Jacob Hexham 10b 137


Don't know if this is your Bella

Results for: Northumberland, England, British Isles
Father: Thomas Hindmarsh, Mother: Jane
Exact Spelling: Off
Batch Number: p002911

International Genealogical Index / British Isles - 2
Select records to download - (50 maximum)
1. ISABEL HINDMARSH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 27 APR 1788 Parish Records And Noncomformists, Ellingham, Northumberland, England

2. JOHN HINDMARSH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 09 NOV 1786 Parish Records And Noncomformists, Ellingham, Northumberland, England



Here's Isabella Edgar Holliday & her spouses - maybe you've already gotten this:


1841 England Census
Civil parish: Whalley
Hundred: Blackburn (Higher Division)
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: Wellington St
Registration district: Haslingden
Sub-registration district: Accrington

William Waller Parkinson 25
Mary Ann Parkinson 20
Elizah Parkinson 40
Marthew Parkinson 20

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 506; Book: 5; Civil Parish: Whalley; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 11; Folio: 22; Page: 38; Line: 5; GSU roll: 306895.

Found on the LDS web site - see my post of 07:34 for URL

EDIT - FORGOT TO SAY TAKE THE "BROWSE OUR COLLECTION" LINK AS THESE IMAGES AREN'T INDEXED

Hi mgnv Thanks for looking this up for me are the image's you've found i.e. 201, 225, 233, 235,Etc. found on genesreunited or the freebmd website? I feel i've a lot to learn, I hope you'll all be patient with me!!! Joan : < ] that my atempt @ a smiley?

I went thru images 201-260 once - based on experience, I expect I missed 10-15%.
Other unconnected? Rowell's on images 201, 225, 233(twice), 235, 238(twice), 245(thrice), 252, 255(twice), 256.

The more interesting are:

DUR BTs - Ovingham (image 245 of 595)
Jane Rowell; [b] June 23d [1809]; [bp] Decr 31st [1809]; 1st C of;
Jacob Rowell of Allendale by his wife
Isabel Hindmarsh [of] Eglingham

DUR BTs - Ovingham (image 255 of 595)
Daniel Rowell; [b] Sepr 19th [1811]; [bp] Novr 24th [1811]; 2d C of;
Jacob Rowell of Allendale by his wife
Isabel Hindmarsh [of] Eglingham



Ozi - I don't agree re Margt. I think she was probably Alice's kid.
I don't find a b.rego for her, but then I don't find an m.rego for David & Margt, so I can't look up her former kids rego's. Anyway, nothing definite, but I'm just persuaded by the pob=Northumberland in 1851.

Hi Ozi Sorry did'nt see the death's for Alice, David & Mgt, I did'nt know he had re-married, so thank's for that I guess I'm a novice yet. But thanks. Joan

Joan, as you can see on my post of 6:42, I found the death of Alice DEAR, not Dean, in 1845. Then David was remarried in 1851 and 1861 censuses, and his death in 1865.

I don't believe he and Alice had any children.

If you had all that information why are you still looking for her as per your post of 23:10?

Ozi

Hi Ozi I did get the info you found but no other info since this so I am thinking they must have died before the next census & I have'nt yet found if maybe the spelling, as it took me 5yrs to find another relative that the spelling was translated totally wrong but when you seen the census it was on I could read it no problem, I think the translator must have been tired !! Thanks for the input. Joan

Hi Sylvia Thank's for all the help I feel I'v jumped way ahead in a very short time, I found Jane & Wm Nobel on the 1891 census, & found all the baptism's so I know most of the middle name's some of which are unusual to say the least, as follow's Wilhelmina Edgarina, Mark Athel, Alicia Beatrice Hubert Arthur [E?], Adeline Jane Blander & Sparke Hughow, see what I mean! I also found Wm died@ the end of 1909 aged 77yrs & I think I've found Jane's death @ the begining of 1919 aged 83yrs, her sister Isabella Edgar [Parkinson] died @ the end of 1916 aged 79yrs in the Carlisle area [Cumberland] Isabella's son Wm Frederick was the only fam she had left alive even though I can't find him on the census after 1891. Joan

Hi mgnv Thanks for the info you've got a lot further than me, I'll try & look for Alice's mother's maiden name if I find there marriage. I did find Jacob's baptism in Allendale nr Haxham Northumberland he was the son of Daniel & Jane so I have Jane's maiden name to find too, should keep me quite for a while!!! Joan

DUR BTs - Ovingham (image 296 of 595)
Baptisms solemnized in the Parish of Ovingham
in the County of Northumberland in the Year 1815
[Entry] No 167 July 30th; Alice D of; Jacob & Isabel; Rowell; [Abode=] Wylam; [Trade=] Taylor; [J. Birkett]

Sylvia - I just checked the DUR BTs (image 333 of 687) and the image reads:
James Edgar Holliday of this Parish and Alice Rowell of the Parish of Ovingham
by Licence
Witn: Jacob Rowell, Jonathan Story
Rest is as per your post

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#

1851 England Census
Name: Helen Dear
Age: 1 3 Mo [15 months on image]
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Gender: Female
Where born: Greenwich, Northumberland, England
Civil parish: Greenwich
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address: Bridge St

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Greenwich West
Household schedule number: 105
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Dear 39 - Working Enginerr; Scotland [David on image.]
Margaret Dear 35 - Falmouth
Margaret Dear 7 - scholar; Northumberland <<<<<<
Emily Dear 3 - Greenwich
Helen Dear


?????
Deaths Jun 1845
DEAR Alice Newcastle Tyne 25 244


Deaths Mar 1865
DEAR David Greenwich 1d 540

Deaths Mar 1870
Dear Margaret 55 Greenwich 1d 570

I think 7 year old Margaret may be the daughter of Margaret before her marriage, and not necessarily the daughter of David. All these children are probably no relation to the Rowells.

????
1861 England Census
Name: David Dear
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil parish: Greenwich
Town: Greenwich
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address: 3 St Alphage Place

Occupation: Engine fitter

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Greenwich West
Household schedule number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
David Dear 50
Margaret Dear 43 - Falmouth, Cornwall
Emlie Dear 13 - Deptford, Kent
Helen Dear 11 - Greenwich, Kent
Jean Dear 9 - Greenwich, Kent
James Dear 6 - Greenwich, Kent
Alfred Dear 3 - Ashford, Kent

Ozi

that's great!!

I hadn't got as far as trying a different spelling




sylvia

So this is where you got David Dean from?

1841 England Census
Name: Isabella Halliday
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Gender: Female
Where born: Northumberland, England
Civil parish: Ovingham
Hundred: Tindale (East Division)
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street Address:

Registration district: Hexham
Sub-registration district: Bywell
Household Members:
Name Age
David Dean 30 - Engineer J.
Alice Dean 25
John Craven 20
Jane Halliday 6
Isabella Halliday 4
The surname is definitely Halliday.

Next page to Jacob & Isabella Rowell. Looks like David may have come from Scotland.


Marriages Sep 1840
BELL Jacob Hexham 25 246
BELL Joseph Hexham 25 246
DEAR David Hexham 25 246 <<<<<
HALLIDAY Alice Hexham 25 246 <<<<<
ROBSON Elizabeth Hexham 25 246