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1. EDWARD PHILLIPS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 27 FEB 1831 Water Lane-Independent, Bishops Stortford, Hertford, England

Event(s):
Birth: 28 JAN 1828

Christening: 27 FEB 1831 Water Lane-Independent, Bishops Stortford, Hertford, England



2. DANIEL PHILLIPS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 27 FEB 1831 Water Lane-Independent, Bishops Stortford, Hertford, England

3. NATHANIEL PHILLIPS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 22 JUN 1834 Water Lane-Independent, Bishops Stortford, Hertford, England

Birth: 08 APR 1834

DANIEL PHILLIPS Pedigree
Male
Event(s):
Birth: 11 NOV 1830

Christening: 27 FEB 1831 Water Lane-Independent, Bishops Stortford, Hertford, England

Parents:
Father: JOHN PHILLIPS Family
Mother: LUCY


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I wonder if this is Lucy?

1851 census - household transcription
Person: CASTER, Lucy
Address: Marsh Side, Edmonton

CASTER, Alfred Head Married M 24 1827 Gardener
N K VIEW
CASTER, Lucy Wife Married F 24 1827
Bishops Stortford
Hertfordshire VIEW
CASTER, Alfred Son M 1 1850
Edmonton
Middlesex

I am noticing you adding more info that you know as you go along. Would have been better to post all that you know at the beginning

Oh for Lucy's maiden name!

Lady Kira,

Thats a bit of brill. All I had was Daniel as ther son of John and Lucy. Now i've got three more children

Ozi.

What makes you think otherwise?.

1841
Address: Catherine Wheel Alley, Bishops Stortford
PHILLIPS, John M 50 1791 Hertfordshire VIEW
PHILLIPS, Lucy F 46 1795 Hertfordshire VIEW
PHILLIPS, John M 17 1824 Hertfordshire VIEW
PHILLIPS, Lucy F 15 1826 Hertfordshire VIEW
PHILLIPS, Daniel M 10 1831 Hertfordshire VIEW
PHILLIPS, Nathaniel M 7 1834 Hertfordshire

K.

Having discussed what i have been told to-day with my friend we are now convinced that your post re the 1911 census is the right family. All the children match and my friend can remember as a small girl visiting her grandparnens who were living in Leverton Street.

Also consider

1881 census - household transcription
Person: PHILLIPS, Hannah
Address: 76, Euston Str, St Pancras

PHILLIPS, George Head Married M 40 1841 Iron Bedstead Maker
Dudley Port
Worcestershire VIEW
PHILLIPS, Hannah Wife Married F 43 1838
Yarmouth
Norfolk VIEW
PHILLIPS, Hannah Daughter Single F 11 1870 Scholar
St Pancras
Middlesex VIEW
PHILLIPS, William Son Single M 10 1871 Scholar
St Pancras
Middlesex

??? If this is your George, I don't think Emma is his mother.

1851 England Census
Name: George Phillips
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Dudley, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: St Pancras
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: 22 Ashby St

Occupation:

Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Camden Town
Household Members:
Name Age
George Phillips 37 - brick labourer; Tysoe, Warwickshire
Emma Phillips 29 - Oxford
Ann Phillips 17 - Tysoe, Warwickshire
Emma Phillips 11 - Dudley
George Phillips 10
Eves Phillips 4 - Williamscott, Oxfordshire
Frances Phillips 2 - Leamington, Warwickshire

Lady Kira,

Your 1861 is correct as the first three chidren of daniel were Mary, Daniel and Rebecca.

regarding your first post, could that mean that MaryCrowcher was married before for Emma to be a neice

You posted this

"Looks like Mary 71 is the mother of Ernest rather than Hannah, as his mother was a mary Crowcher"

Compare neice in hat last census post

Scagiola Maker Made imitation marble

1851 census - household transcription
Person: PHILLIPS, Mary
Address: 26, William Street, Saint Pancras, London, Marylebone
PHILLIPS, Daniel Head Married M 20 1831 Carpenter Porter
Hertford VIEW
PHILLIPS, Mary Wife F 21 1830
St Pancras
Middlesex VIEW
COROCHER, Emma Niece F 10 1841 At Home
Bloomsbury
Middlesex


1861 census - household transcription
Person: PHILLIPS, Mary
Address: 1b, Little George Street, Pancras Ward
PHILLIPS, Daniell Head Married M 31 1830 Scagliola Worker
Bishops Stortford
Hertfordshire VIEW
PHILLIPS, Mary Wife Married F 30 1831
St Pancras
Middlesex VIEW
PHILLIPS, Mary Daughter F 9 1852 Scholar
St Marylebone
Middlesex VIEW
PHILLIPS, Daniel Son M 5 1856 Scholar
St Pancras
Middlesex VIEW
PHILLIPS, Rebecca Daughter F 2 1859
St Pancras
Middlesex

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Hannah Eliza registered Pancras Dec 1868
Hannah Martha registered Pancras March 1869
Hannah registered Pancras June 1869
Hannah Eliza registered Pancras December 1869

Not sure that Hannah had a second given name.

Lady Kira

Thats put the cat amongst the pigeons

Certainly.

Both Hannah and Henry Ernest born in St Pancras according to 1911 cencus.

Next stage would be to check those addresses in 1871

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Hannah Eliza Phillips
Name: Hannah Eliza Phillips
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 12 Jan 1869
Father's Name: Thomas Phillips
Mother's Name: Emma Phillips
Parish: St Pancras Old Church
Borough: Camden
County: Middlesex
Residence Edward Street
father a dairy man