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Victoria kindly did a lookup but not of any help I fear:

215 BIRD, Robert D Head Married M 33 1868 House Painter & Decorator
Walsall
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215 BIRD, Clara Wife Married F 29 1872
Walsall
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215 BIRD, Robert D Son Single M 8 1893
Walsall
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215 BIRD, Florence Daughter Single F 4 1897
Walsall
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215 BIRD, Harold E Son Single M 2 1899
Walsall
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215 BIRD, Ethel Daughter Single F 0 1901
Walsall
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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
2889 Folio:
47 Page:
36

Registration District:
Aston Sub District:
Aston Manor Enumeration District:
60 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Aston by Birmingham St Peter & St Paul

Civil Parish:
Aston Manor Municipal Borough:
Address:
5, 6, Court House, Catherine Street, Aston Manor County:
Warwickshire

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Don't do anything, I'll put out a plea for help!
Jan

I don't have FMP so I can't help, sorry

Vanessa, it's a bit tricky doing an address search on Ancestry. I think people with FMP can do an address search, so might be better to start a thread?
Jan

Hello to you too Jan
I think it's wonderful how much help I've had from other people, I think I would have almost given up by now if I'd been on my own. I would never have believed how difficult it was to trace one's grandparents after all it's not that long ago.

Hi Vanessa
I've got Ancestry, I don't know how to do this, if you can tell me what to do I'll take a look

Hi Vanessa
I've been away from the site all day today. Nonsense when you say that finding John's brother isn't the best find, I think it's pretty marvelous when I've trawled through loads of info and come up with nothing of any use.
Thank you, as you say another piece of the jigsaw.

Hi can anyone see who is at 5 court 6 Catherine street in 1901 ? I don't have ancestry . Just wondering if whoever was there is connected to Ellen Clarke as she gives this address 2 years later for lilian's birth.

Thanks

vanessa

Thanks Vanessa. Jonesey put me onto that site a while back in fact, but I have never used it - I didn't realise it contained such early electoral registers, as I normally just go to the Central Library where they start 1919 I think. Might give it a go though not sure how many of my lot would have been eligible to vote before then!

EDIT just had a look, but doesn't seem to give a list without credits. Never mind!

Regards
Jan

Hi Anthony, I tried to post this before , pressed the wrong button and lost it, so here goes.

Catherine st- 1912 - Sarah Clarke
1918- Ernest Raymond Clarke- war ref: 15876 Pte ,att Coy 4Bn ,RGA
they are not specifically at no 5 but ??
You can find them on 1911 by putting Ernest in search and Aston as key word. Born 1873

Secondly somewhere I found in the vicinity a Cyrus Kirby - ?
I can't rememeber where he was but he is somewhere round about- age similar to Ellen.

Thirdly 5 catherine st appears to be the site of the pub, and has some back to backs connected to it. On 1911 enumerators sheet there is also a bicycle factory I believe on Catherine st. ??

I hope some of this is connected in some way to your search.

Fingers crossed

Vanessa

Hi Brummiejan, I use a site called Midlands Historical data . It is relatively inexpensive and has helped with a number of different issues. You buy credits - I think 35 for £5 but mostly you don't need to use the credits , particularly for the elec roll as the site will produce lists of the people and places . You would then use a credit to see a page but the page itself doesn't contain any further info really , just the original list for that street etc.
I was put onto the site when I wanted to find a Warwick burial . There are other areas of the Midlands covered and quite a lot of info I just haven't looked at all.

bw
Vanessa

Just saying hello Anthony - although I haven't contributed for a long while I like to keep an eye on your progress. Good to see that other members have come up with so much. It's as if the answer is just round the corner - but which corner!
Might I take the liberty of asking Vanessa which site you are using please re. electoral register, as mentioned in the previous post? Thanks.
Jan

Hi Anthony, I guess we're at a bit of a standstill until you get a few more things confirmed or not with the certs. There are only so many times you can look at the same people or census .

I had a general look around last night again, randomly trying to pick up some new link. I live in Birmingham and so it is more interesting to me who lived where, places that I know etc. On a general Babington/ Birmingham search I think I found John B's brother , Edward Babington, wife Fanny ,daughter Nellie, mother Jane and an adopted child, Winifred Allwood. This isn't the best find in the world but another small piece of the bigger jigsaw. The thing that stuck with me is they were living on a road less than a mile from where I now live and virtually beside my old house.
small world !!

Hopefully next week will bring some new info and you can move forward , ever closer to the truth ? or what appears to be correct !

I did have a check for Catherine st ( Lilian birth address ) on the elec roll but unless I missed something that specific address didn't appear. Possibly re numbered ? by 1912 - first elec roll on the site I use.

Catch up later
Vanessa

Still waiting for Ellen Clarke's copy marriage cert to arrive. Lilian's graddaughter says her birth certificate for William Clarke 1904 is due to be despatched on 20th (today) so she's hoping to get it tomorrow or Monday. Mine for Ellen Clarke marriage has depatch date of 16th August so won't be here for a while yet, it can take up to 2 weeks.

Good Morning People
I had some nice news yesterday, my mum's sister's youngest granddaughter has just started a a tree on GR, this was especially good news as I'd lost touch with her family and I only knew of the existance of her older sister, now I find her and another sister. Of course you get the bad along with the good and I also learnt that her dad had died in 2006.
Back to the matter in hand, we are still waiting for the birth cert for a poss William Clarke and the marriage cert for Ellen Clarke 1905 West Brom, this cert should interest all you regular contributors as it's one with no male on it when you do the search. You don't think the cert will have no male on do you? I do hope not.

Sorry to report no obvious errors on the images for 1871 & 1881 census

Thanks Astra, much appreciated

I have your E mail address Tony so I will send them on to you
Astra
xx

EDIT: 13:20 on their way

Help!
On 1871 census John Babbington (possibly our John Babington's father) was age 45, living in Aston Manor, Warwickshire with wife Jane age 40, sons John age 7, Christopher 5, all these were born London Hampstead, there was also Edward 3 and Joseph 1 born Croyden, Surrey.
On 1881 census the family is living at No 1 Court 20 Bishopsgate St. Birmingham, Warwickshire, John Senior is now 42 (3 years younger!) born Scotland, Jane 37, (3 yrs younger!) born St Pancras, John is 16 born Hampstead, there's no Christopher, Edward is 13 & Joseph 11 both born Norwood, Surrey
In 1891 John Babington is now age 26, 'married' living at 54 Ryder Street, Birmingham with his wife Elizabeth 30 born Warwick, Birmingham, his mother-in-law Elizabeth Carrington 77 born Hereford, his brother Joseph 22 born Croyden, Surrey, a boarder Christopher age 1 born Worcester and another boarder Thomas Carrington age 20 born Warwickshire, Birmingham
Can anyone supply original images please