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1861 Oswin family
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Linda | Report | 8 Jul 2010 23:49 |
Yup, that's them. I've photographed their gravestone in Angmering churchyard. We've got his parents too, tho gravestone now under north aisle of church - was photographed by researchers down there. Angmering has an excellent website! |
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AnnCardiff | Report | 8 Jul 2010 23:46 |
JAMES BONGARD Pedigree |
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Linda | Report | 8 Jul 2010 23:45 |
Indeed. There are similar names in France and Germany. Family rumour said ours came over during the French Revolution, but that can't be right as they're in Angmering long before that. Could be C17 Huguenot refugees tho. Also some rumour of French glass makers who came to England. None of it verified though! |
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AnnCardiff | Report | 8 Jul 2010 23:44 |
GEORGE BONGARD Pedigree |
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AnnCardiff | Report | 8 Jul 2010 23:43 |
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AnnCardiff | Report | 8 Jul 2010 23:43 |
a connection no doubt? 1881 |
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AnnCardiff | Report | 8 Jul 2010 23:41 |
had to have a look - an interesting name!!!! |
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Linda | Report | 8 Jul 2010 23:38 |
More miscellaneous Bongards - another confusing family! I've got quite a lot of info about them and the Corneys, all Sussex - Ann Bongard/Oswin's parents were George Bongard, bricklayer, born Heene, Worthing 1806 (tho his parents and half his siblings born Angmering) and Frances Corney born Bignor, Sussex 1801. Confusingly their daughter Frances married her first cousin so her father, brother and husband were all called George Bongard! haven't found death of either George or Frances, tho someone said George died 1834. certainly he's not there in 1841 - tho there is another george Bongard, also a bricklayer, in Maidstone, Kent. Must be a connection but I haven't yet found it. |
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AnnCardiff | Report | 8 Jul 2010 23:30 |
WILLIAM BONGARD Pedigree |
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AnnCardiff | Report | 8 Jul 2010 23:29 |
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AnnCardiff | Report | 8 Jul 2010 23:25 |
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AnnCardiff | Report | 8 Jul 2010 23:24 |
FRANCIS BONGARD Pedigree |
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Linda | Report | 8 Jul 2010 23:11 |
Odd about the Sheridans isn't it? But names seem to vary in this family. My gt grandmother was Louisa Ann Oswin, and I have a copy of her birth certificate and assorted later censuses all saying Louisa Ann, born Southampton 1855. Yet in her letter Anna Frances says "I do not know whether you are called Anna or Frances nor which name comes first" and in 1861 she is with grandmother Frances Bongard in Stepney as Ann F Oswin, 6, born Southampton. (Someone found this for me ages ago - I haven't been able to find it myself.) Mother Ann Bongard in 1861 was a housemaid in Hampstead, unmarried but calling herself Ann Oswin. She and Richard married in 1866, but unfortunately his first wife was still alive so it was bigamous! |
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Linda | Report | 8 Jul 2010 22:36 |
Wow, that's all mind-blowing! Thank you all so much! The reason I posted my query today is that this morning a cousin emailed me a letter believed to have been written to my great grandmother Louisa Ann Oswin, and at the top it says 1867 and Woodhall Farm. So I wanted to find out where they were. Since then I've been deciphering the letter - written both ways across the paper - and found it's from Anna Frances Oswin to her granddaughter back in Southampton. Anna was obviously missing her family. She then describes a farm and all the animals, which I thought was odd as Charles was a surgeon, and then wishes she could transport it all back to England. The cousin who sent the letter said family believed it had been sent from India, as Charles and Anna's son Richard was in India some of the time, but clearly not. The letter all makes sense now. And the fact that I couldn't find them - looking in the wrong place! Thanks for all the early Oswins in London too - lots to digest and try and make sense of. I'd love to see the photo of Charles - maybe I should join Ancestry! |
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Astra | Report | 8 Jul 2010 21:27 |
Son Edward is there too |
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Astra | Report | 8 Jul 2010 21:16 |
OK. I've just looked for him, on other trees on Ancestry. His obituary is there as well as a picture of him. Fine looking man. |
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Astra | Report | 8 Jul 2010 20:56 |
and here they are in America. Not making sense but it looks like him. He is a Farmer!!. Could he have retired from medical practice and gone to the USA to try his hand at Farming? Is it possible that Anna Frances died out there. I need to find him coming back into England for the 1871 but i can't so it's probably the wrong family although they are not showing there in 1871, |
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Astra | Report | 8 Jul 2010 20:52 |
Could be why Charles and Anna aren't in the 1861. Travelling to New York with wife Annie or Anna |
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Astra | Report | 8 Jul 2010 20:39 |
I think Linda meant Charles Senior the Surgeon was a widower in 1871. Living with his son Frederick |
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LondonBelle | Report | 8 Jul 2010 19:16 |
You said that Charles was a widower in the 1871 census yet Louisa his wife didn't die until 1874.....how strange! |
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