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1881 census - household transcription
Person: RYLANCE, Joseph
Address: 2, Lord St, Newton In Makerfield

RYLANCE, Joseph Head Married M 37 1844 Bottle Maker
Warrington
Lancashire VIEW
RYLANCE, Margaret Wife Married F 38 1843
Warrington
Lancashire VIEW
RYLANCE, Joseph Son Single M 18 1863 Bottle Maker
Warrington
Lancashire VIEW
RYLANCE, Sarah Ellen Daughter Single F 16 1865 Living At Home
Warrington
Lancashire VIEW
RYLANCE, James Son Single M 14 1867 Bottle Makers Appr
Warrington
Lancashire VIEW
RYLANCE, Daniel Son Single M 12 1869 Scholar
Warrington
Lancashire VIEW
RYLANCE, George Son Single M 10 1871 Scholar
Warrington
Lancashire VIEW
RYLANCE, John Son Single M 6 1875 Scholar
Warrington
Lancashire VIEW
RYLANCE, William Son Single M 4 1877 Scholar
Newton Le Willows
Lancashire VIEW
RYLANCE, Andrew Son Single M 2 1879
Newton Le Willows
Lancashire VIEW
RYLANCE, Jannette Daughter Single F 1 1880
Newton Le Willows
Lancashire

Name: Mary Roylance
Year of Registration: 1842
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Warrington
County: Cheshire, Lancashire
Volume: 20
Page: 860 (click to see others on page)

Still cannot find Mary's first marriage.

Well just got back and found that Ladykira and Madmeg has kindly joined with Potty and FannyByGasLight in this mystery!
Thank you one and all for all your input and information that you have found for me. I really appreciate this, as it is one brickwall I had not knocked down! But thankfully through all your help it is crumbbleing away.

What confuses me is all the different ways the surname has been mistranscribed over the years!

I see still no marriage, !

You will of course have to back this up with ccertificates etc but it was the nly Mary with father George.

FBG is still a little dubious because of George's changing occupations. Mechanic was his occupation on Mar'ys 2ndmarriage cert

but just a thought.
We have not found marriage to Joyce but what if that marriage was her second marriage?

Ladykira

Hmm food for thought there I must say.
Why is traceing ones family so complicated?!!

I was going on the assumption that being only 36years old and a widow, she had only been married the once!
The only way is for me to order John Joyce certificate but which one do I order?

Same as her birth certificate as there is also Mary Rylands birth Prescot Lancs 1843?

What is interesting is that on the 1911 Census she states she would have been married 50 years, had 4 children still alive, but I only know of two, her son John Joyce and her daughter by her 2nd marriage, now that would be confusing and a puzzle to solve!

I do understand that people's occupation does change over the years as they have to go with the work.

Is this the 1911?


1911 census - household transcription
Person: GLITKERO, Mary
Address: 21 Orchard St Carmarthen

GLITKERO, Mary Head Widow F 69 1842 House Work Warrington Lancashire


O n the original it says


13 children born alive

9 died


4 still living

Also I wonder what she meant by her answer to how long has she been married?

She was obviously not married 1911 as she is a widow.

Did she give the total years married or total years married to last husband?

She was married to Samuel for 32 years so 18 years of married life to find.

If her figure of 50 years is correct we should be looking c1861 for first marriage.

We have her in 1861 census,


so after that

GEORGE ROYLANCE Pedigree
Male Family
Marriages:
Spouse: SARAH HAMBLET Family
Marriage: 06 JUN 1834 Warrington, Lancashire, England


M007978

Possible?

1871 England Census
about Mary Joyce
Name: Mary Joyce
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Andrew
Gender: Female
Where born: Warrington, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Ancoats
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 68
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Joyce 30
Mary Joyce 31
Mary A Joyce 5
Margaret Joyce 3

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Andrew Joyce
Name: Andrew Joyce
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Year of Registration: 1876
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 34
District: Manchester (1837-1924)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 236 (click to see others on page)

1871 England Census
about Samuel Glythore
Name: Samuel Glythore
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Wilden, Northamptonshire, England
Civil parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Household schedule number: 207
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Glythore 25
Ann Glythore 25
Sarah R Glythore 1
Mary Glythore 20 Niece

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Samuel Glithero
Name: Samuel Glithero
Year of Registration: 1868
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Manchester (1837-1924)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 357 (click to see others on page)

Spouse Ann Buckley.

I am trying to find some connection with Sarah Macintosh!!!

Is there another Samuel Glithero?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Samuel Glithero
Name: Samuel Glithero
Year of Registration: 1889
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Manchester (1837-1924)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 376 (click to see others on page)

Spouse Mary Edmunds or Margaret Williams.

EDIT Yes there is, he married Margaret, probably no connection then.

Ah, ha:

Marriages Dec 1866 (>99%)
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Jolley Mary E Warrington 8c 180
Macintosh Daniel Warrington 8c 180
RYLANDS Sarah Warrington 8c 180
SMITH Thomas Warrington 8c 180

Interesting

Marriage: 6 Jun 1834 St Elphin, Warrington, Lancashire, England
George Rylance - (X), of This Parish
Sarah Hamblet - (X), of This Parish
Witness: Joseph Boardman, (X); Ann Hamblet, (X)
Married by Banns by: Charles Nicholson Curate
Register: Marriages 1833 - 1837, Page 55, Entry 163
Source: LDS Film 1532962

1871 England Census
about Sarah Machintosh
Name: Sarah Machintosh
Age: 53
Estimated birth year: abt 1818
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Daniel
Gender: Female
Where born: Warrington, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Newton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Newton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Warrington
Sub-registration district: Newton in Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 203
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Machintosh 45
Sarah Machintosh 53
Daniel Machintosh 16
Jane Machintosh 12
Ellen Machintosh 8
John Mc Kennay 35

FMP gives place of birth

1871 census - household transcription
Person: MACHINTOSH, Daniel
Address: Gas Street, Newton
MACHINTOSH, Daniel Head M 46 1825 Scotland VIEW
MACHINTOSH, Sarah Wife F 53 1818 Lancashire VIEW
MACHINTOSH, Daniel Son M 16 1855 Scotland VIEW
MACHINTOSH, Jane Daughter F 12 1859 Scotland VIEW
MACHINTOSH, Ellen Daughter F 8 1863 Scotland VIEW
MCKENNAY, John Lodger M 35 1836 Scotland