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OMYYYY I didnt read the bit about Caroline.you see how many lies were told to us Caroline was alive when Joseph met Eddith and they were still married it seems.

Josephs first wife was called Caroline and she died around 1928 I belive..ok thats the story who knows in this family, and left him with 6 children. He then met my Grandmother in a workhouse and they left to set up home together in Hatfield near Doncaster.

I'm still awake. So I'll puddle.

Joseph is Willets (one T) on his marriage to Edith, but otherwise it seems to be Willetts. I'll say Willetts, but I will search both ways.

You ask about Mr Edwards coming down to Kent -- she was living there? So this is her death:

Name: Edith Annie Willets
Birth Date: 13 Feb 1893
Death Registration Month/Year: 1978
Registration district: Maidstone
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 16
Page: 1431


I'm not getting a handle on Caroline, Joseph's first wife, though. There is a Joseph Willetts marriage that could be to a Caroline Baggott in Dudley in 1906, but I can't see them in 1911 or any births after 1911.

This must be Joseph's death

Name: Joseph Willets
Death Registration Month/Year: 1962
Age at death (estimated): 83
Registration district: Maidstone
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 5b
Page: 722

so he was born about 1879.

This seems like the most likely possibility for Joseph's first wife's death

Name: Caroline Willets
Death Registration Month/Year: 1950
Age at death (estimated): 66
Registration district: Barnet
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 5a
Page: 582

(going by date of birth, of the various possible deaths - this makes her born about 1884)

except that doesn't fit with dying and leaving him with young children.

Go to bed and come back fresh tomorrow Brenda.

Im sure we will still be here with lots more questions for you to answer.

Which is what I am going to do as I am not thinking straight now.

sorry not marrage certificate but the sons bith certificates and marrage certifficates...sorry I'm getting tired and my meds are starting to work

his occupation was a hewer ie he worked at the coal face for the Waterworks, After he abandoned my granmother she went into a work house and says she never heard from him again so how doies she know he came down to kent with another woman? we dont know a thing about him

What is Frederick William Edwards occupation on his childrens birth certs please.

And do you know when/where he died?

My mother who is 85 can remember my grandmother having a half or step sister called molly who was a lot younger than her but she cant remember anything else

yes that is my Grandmothers Marrage certificate, My half uncle says she told them she was bigimously married to Joseph whos first wife Caroline died leaving him with 6 children who I bellive were a lot older than my grandmothers/ On all my fathers full brothers marrage certificates it has the fathers name as Frederick William Edwards deceaced although she knows he wasnt as the story goes he ran off with a woman when the youngest child was 6 weeks oldand came down to kent. Only 3 of the brothers Married Walter never did. Oh how complicated some peoples lives were lol

Funny really ,I was just relooking at all this when it popped back up on my threads (and I am getting nowhere fast)and realised that I need to ask a question.

What is Frederick William Edwards occupation on his childrens birth certs please.

And do you know when/where he died?

I just wanted to say how much I appreciate everyones help on this ..xx

Maybe we can try starting over.

The one big thing to remember (that isn't made clear enough at this site) is that the first thing to do when you come here is click on "My threads" over on the left hand side.

That will automatically find your threads for you. You don't have to do the work. Then you just click on each one to read it. It's best to do that always, and let the site do the remembering for you. You only need to remember "My threads".

In the other thread you said that your half-uncle (one of Edith's sons from her second relationship / marriage) said his mother married Joseph Willets bigamously.

She did marry him as Hewer. That could mean she was never married before, or she concealed the marriage.

Name: Edith A Hewer
Spouse Surname: Willets
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1953
Registration district: Newcastle-Under-Lyme
Registration county (inferred): Staffordshire
Volume Number: 9b
Page Number: 623

The fact that she waited until 1953 to marry Joseph, with whom she had children 30 years earlier -- was he married, and not free to marry until his wife died?

If not, possible she was married, and married Joseph after Frederick William Edwards died. Will have a look around ...

We have our Grandmothers birth certificate

oh I see the surname is first then the children... then mothers maiden name.oh boy dont have a brain aneurysm it makes me so cross I cant seemto grasp things

oohm goodness sorry I havent replied but still finding my way round this............From this it lo0oks as if My Grandmother wasnt maried to the father of her children......Kenneth was my father and William his twin brother. and Walter the youngest. The oldest Brither Frederick had a twin Joan who died and I have only recenly found out that another child was born and died in 1921. This answerse a LOT of questions Thank you so much

Hi Flick Sorry I wasnt being a time waster I didnt know how to use the board as I explained to one of the administrators I've had a brain Aneurysm and find computers and folling things very hard. Sorry to cause you any distress and I am gratefull for your help.Kennith , William and Walter were my father and two of his brothers also in 1920 Frederick was born and also Edith Joan, My Grandfather abandoned my Grandmother when Walter was 6 weeks old and she went into the poor house where she met Joseph Willets and had tw illigitimate children by him. She married him in 1953 not knowing if her husband was dead or not even though she had put "husband deceased on Frederick William and my fathers Kenneths marrage certificates. Also the two children she had by Joseph Willets took the name Willetts even though they were not formally addopted by him. I also know that my Grandmother had a step sister Molly but we dont know her surname. Talk about confusing. Again many thanks for your hard work... Brenda

Oh bother !!!

I just love duplicate threads

Thanks FBG.......no more input from me....................

Time-wasters I can do without...............

???????

Births Mar 1921 (>99%)
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Edwards Joyce Hewer Lichfield 6b 907

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Births Mar 1923 (>99%)
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Edwards Kenneth A Hewer Lichfield 6b 837
Edwards William N Hewer Lichfield 6b 836

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Births Mar 1926 (>99%)
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Edwards Walter Hewer Lichfield 6b 728

See also this thread that Brenda has not returned to


http://www.genesreunited.co.za/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1228334

A little info ,but nothing found.